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Lowen SoDium posted:Does anyone remember Vivo? It was a very early streaming video player. Mostly used for porn in the 90's. Blocky, low res, buffering porn... I've mentioned this before in some thread, but I used it almost entirely for a pre-Youtube site from the late 90s called InterneTV that had a bunch of movie trailers and music videos on it. I actually thought that compared to Realplayer it looked better at the time. I still remember how Google Video used to be a thing prior to them taking up Youtube. Stuff that people uploaded a lot of times gave you the option of just, "Do you want to download this video to playback on a PSP, iPod, etc." and you could do that easily.
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Prior to 10 years ago watching any video from an online source was usually a giant pain in the rear end. I have no nostalgia for that particular bit of history.
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Aug 24, 2016 20:58
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lol sorry that claiming I can hear the difference between an MP3 and a FLAC on a high-end system is such a radical, edgy opinion you guys
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Aug 24, 2016 20:59
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drunk asian neighbor posted:lol sorry that claiming I can hear the difference between an MP3 and a FLAC on a high-end system is such a radical, edgy opinion you guys its not radical or edgy its just retarded and not true
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Aug 24, 2016 21:01
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A-B testing has shown people can't tell the difference except when they can which is sometimes. Nobody can tell the difference for all works, and some people can't tell the difference for any works, but it's simply untrue to say that nobody can tell the difference for all works.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:03
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Germstore posted:A-B testing has shown people can't tell the difference except when they can which is sometimes. Nobody can tell the difference for all works, and some people can't tell the difference for any works, but it's simply untrue to say that nobody can tell the difference for all works. no but see you're wrong because
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Aug 24, 2016 21:05
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but what is 100% true is everyone thinks they can tell the difference see: supertasters and 20/10 vision
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Mortimer posted:but what is 100% true is everyone thinks they can tell the difference Everyone except the people here arguing that there's no way to tell the difference 
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I know I can't tell the difference. I have $40 headphones. But if you're going to say A/B testing shows that most people can't tell the difference for most works, you do have to also recognize the A/B tests where the person could tell the difference.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:12
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Everyone except the people here arguing that there's no way to tell the difference yeah also I don't believe you can either I think you THINK you can but you can't, especially if you're older and your ears have already degraded but if listening to flacs gives you peace of mind knowing that you're listening to the "pure" form or whatever more power to ya bud http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality mbt has a new favorite as of 21:17 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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Mortimer posted:yeah also I don't believe you can either
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SwissCM posted:It can be handy to store music losslessly compressed for archival purposes or if they're going to be transcoded. Compressing something twice often leads to some obvious artifacting. oh absolutely, someone brought that up earlier and i completely agree with flacs for that purpose but lmao if you think you're hearing a difference from 320 mp3s
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In a home listening situation there's almost no benefit, but there's also almost no cost. A 4 tb hard drive is like $100 and holds, umm, let's see carry the one, a gently caress ton of music no matter the format.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:18
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Mortimer posted:yeah also I don't believe you can either Honestly I don't really give a poo poo about what a stranger on the internet's opinion of my ear for music is, but thanks for acting like you actually know something about sound compression and perceived differences in peoples' hearing! If you'd actually read what I said at first you'd see that I don't personally use flac, because I don't have a several-thousand-dollar sound system and therefore could never tell the difference on any system I personally use.
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Honestly I don't really give a poo poo about what a stranger on the internet's opinion of my ear for music is, but thanks for acting like you actually know something about sound compression and perceived differences in peoples' hearing! If you'd actually read what I said at first you'd see that I don't personally use flac, because I don't have a several-thousand-dollar sound system and therefore could never tell the difference on any system I personally use. nice post but I think you lost this one lmao tell your dad hi and also that his son sucks
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Aug 24, 2016 21:23
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Mortimer posted:nice post but I think you lost this one lmao yeah no you sure owned me about whether or not I can hear the difference between things, good job duder I think you THINK you won this argument but you didn't
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Aug 24, 2016 21:24
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Excellent derail. 7/10
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Mortimer posted:nice post but I think you lost this one lmao except some people have been able to tell the difference for certain recordings in A/B test, so you're being a dick for no reason.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:30
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Ok, to get off this retarded slapfight over literally someone's opinion on the aural capabilities of total strangers: Does any industry still use plotter printers? I remember as a kid we had one in the house for printing large-scale PCB layouts and poo poo. I can't find a picture, but I remember instead of ink cartridges it used these little ink pens, and would slot them out for each different color. It really looked like a robot drawing a picture, since the arm would move around and physically draw whatever was needed in one color, the arm would drop that color and pick up another one, etc. Blew my 8-year-old mind having a real live robot artist in the house.
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Batterypowered7 posted:Excellent derail. 7/10 Welcome to YOSPOS 
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drunk asian neighbor posted:Ok, to get off this retarded slapfight over literally someone's opinion on the aural capabilities of total strangers: Some engineering firms do. Some don't. Plotters are just SO GOOD for large-scale blue-prints.
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ChesterJT posted:Uhhh no they can't. They totally can. I bought monster cables and replaced the volume knob with a mahogany dial and I feel the warmth of the music that was recorded to sound good on a car stereo.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Some engineering firms do. Some don't. Plotters are just SO GOOD for large-scale blue-prints. I mean like ocean cruisers and poo poo.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:37
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Remember the brief period where stores had kiosks with tiny plotters for printing custom greeting cards?
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Quote-Unquote posted:They totally can. I bought monster cables and replaced the volume knob with a mahogany dial and I feel the warmth of the music that was recorded to sound good on a car stereo. Mahogany? No teak? It's like you're not even trying to hear the notes between the notes. 
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Aug 24, 2016 22:09
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Now 192K/24 bit is some actual real bullshit (except for keeping as a studio master).
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Here's the Y2K doomsday kit:
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mobby_6kl posted:I definitely heard the difference between FLAC and 320kbps mp3. The mp3 wasn't worse, per se, but it did sound different enough that I could tell which one was which. Still, a decent quality mp3 is good enough for everything except super- almost all file formats are updated over time, the jpeg standard's last update was in like 2012 and over the last 16 years there have been significant improvements the rapid avaliability of storage space and the relatively tiny size of pictures means that whatever changes and additions to png and jpeg werent really revolutionary. there's animated pngs now i guess?
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Return Of JimmyJars posted:Here's the Y2K doomsday kit: I'm the "BROCK $75/hr" in red ink.
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Mortimer posted:http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality Lmao I got 0/6 on this I remember reading a long effort article by an electrical/audio engineer about how past certain bitrates it becomes moot because there comes a point where only one possible analog wave can fit the digital print or whatever. He explained it better than me obviously but his point was this: after a certain bitrate threshold they become impossible to distinguish because the device you're playing the music on actually outputs the same signal. I can't find it for the life of me because I don't know what to search. I did originally find it on these forums a few years ago and a bunch of audiophiles got stark raving mad about it. It was pretty great. E: Actually I think it may have been a video, not an article. Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 23:07 on Aug 24, 2016 |
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ChesterJT posted:Mahogany? No teak? It's like you're not even trying to hear the notes between the notes. You stupid hobbyist, teak is for the shielding on your light switches to reduce EM interference. You'll never hear the subtle 300mhz melodies in Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers otherwise.
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Mak0rz posted:Lmao I got 0/6 on this this? https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
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Yes, and here's the follow-up video! https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
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Today I learned that there once existed an Xbox 360 HD port of Goldeneye 007 that was set to be released for purchase on the Xbox Live Arcade. And now i'm bummed I never got to play it. Goldeneye Source is one thing, but this was the entire game, not just multiplayer aspects of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRRuhviJGMQ
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Mak0rz posted:Lmao I got 0/6 on this I think you mean the Shannon-Nyquist sampling theorem? It basically states that if you sample a signal at more than twice the frequency of it's highest-frequency component, you can recreate it perfectly. That doesn't entirely apply to lossy codecs, though. MP3 doesn't get its compression from lowering the sample rate (which will typically stay at the same 44kHz as the original source), but from a combination of more efficient but imprecise ways of describing the signal plus deliberately dropping information that human hearing ignores.
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Bro, Brock Kobayashi got $75.00 U.S. American 1999 Dollars to stick it in a A: drive and sit around. Best job ever.
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Gonz posted:Today I learned that there once existed an Xbox 360 HD port of Goldeneye 007 that was set to be released for purchase on the Xbox Live Arcade. If it helps it was a bad port and a good reminder that Goldeneye is a bad game outside of nostalgia.
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Wasn't there a 360 port of Goldeneye 007 Reloaded though? You know, the newer and better game?
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wasn't there a 360 port of Goldeneye 007 Reloaded though? You know, the newer and better game? Was that the one that was literally Goldeneye except with Daniel Craig as Bond? (and all the other characters had their looks changed slightly IIRC)
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Mortimer posted:yeah also I don't believe you can either I'm only two in and I will admit I could not tell the Neil Young 320 vs uncompressed if my life depended on it, but I was so sure of the Suzanne Vega I would have bet money on it, and I did get it right. The page is pretty dumb because on refresh it reorders the tracks but not the order of the different quality versions. e: less sure about Coldplay, but I still got it.
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