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BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Yeah, he's a shithead. I just separate the touching story from the person involved. :shrug:

e:Like nothing about that story made him seem like a great person. The most it did was make him more human. Which he is.

hmm. so you are having feelings other than pure hatred towards Enemies of the Revolution, comrade? how fascinating.

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asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

BBJoey posted:

hmm. so you are having feelings other than pure hatred towards Enemies of the Revolution, comrade? how fascinating.

Sounds like someone needs more zizek to stop seperating "Hitler the dog owner" from "Hitler the anime fan" when it's actually just Hitler

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

SynthOrange posted:

A parliamentary delegation from Denmark will visit the Pacific island of Nauru and gain rare access to Australia’s offshore detention centre to consider whether such controversial immigration policies could be adopted in Europe.

In the next week cross-party group of Danish politicians will visit Australia and Nauru and are seeking access to inspect the detention centre, according to reports by Danish radio station 24syv.

The visit to Nauru was confirmed to the Guardian in a statement from Danish MP Johanne Schmidt-Nielson, who said her party was “highly critical” of Australia’s immigration policies, and would use the visit to closely scrutinise the policy. It has been planned for more than six months by the parliamentary delegation, with six of the 29 member parliamentary committee attending.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/aug/23/danish-politicians-seek-to-visit-nauru-site-at-heart-of-offshore-detention-outcry

I wonder what they're going to put into the mashed potatoes the night before the delegation arrives.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
This is pretty cool

https://www.scifinow.co.uk/blog/australian-genre-cinema-living-in-the-past-or-a-brave-new-world/

We got a neat and nuts film tradition, and we gotten too ... tame and lovely over the past couple decades. Might be swingin' back around though, to australia havin' a cinematic voice again

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Talking about Screen Australia, everyone should buy and play Hand of Fate.

Gunder
May 22, 2003

Question from a European: What sort of newspaper is the Sydney Morning Herald? Well respected? Serious?

BlitzkriegOfColour
Aug 22, 2010

Gunder posted:

Question from a European: What sort of newspaper is the Sydney Morning Herald? Well respected? Serious?

Question from an Australian: if Australians respect it, doesn't that make it disreputable?

The SMH is about as deep as a goldfish bowl, and its journalists display all the attendant insight of said bowl's inhabitants.

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!

Gunder posted:

Question from a European: What sort of newspaper is the Sydney Morning Herald? Well respected? Serious?
Generally decent and respected and mostly serious, especially when compared to the Murdoch press.

But then again so is cancer when compared to the drivel from Murdoch land. The SMH is a shaddow of its former self.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Gunder posted:

Question from a European: What sort of newspaper is the Sydney Morning Herald? Well respected? Serious?

Capable of some quite good investigative journalism (such as the Unaoil story, anything by Kate McClymont) but 10+ years of cost cutting has seen it move more into chasing clickbait.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

The Peccadillo posted:

This is pretty cool

https://www.scifinow.co.uk/blog/australian-genre-cinema-living-in-the-past-or-a-brave-new-world/

We got a neat and nuts film tradition, and we gotten too ... tame and lovely over the past couple decades. Might be swingin' back around though, to australia havin' a cinematic voice again

If you have Netflix and haven't seen Not Quite Hollywood, set aside some time to watch it. It's a fascinating look at the history of Australian genre films. Also nudity.

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

The SMH is just a vector for real estate ads.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

Amoeba102 posted:

The SMH is just a vector for real estate ads.

and CCP soft power

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Capt.Whorebags posted:

If you have Netflix and haven't seen Not Quite Hollywood, set aside some time to watch it. It's a fascinating look at the history of Australian genre films. Also nudity.

Also on Youtube (probably :nws:):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcsHoLstQC0

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

lol, if the LNP rebels get their way and raise the super contribution cap above $500k, it'll cost the budget more than current arrangements :yum:

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Amoeba102 posted:

The SMH is just a vector for real estate ads.

They are branching out and trying to emulate the real estate/domain profits in the Drive section now too.

not that Drive was ever really worth reading anyway.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
News: House prices are going up uP UP!
Money: Buying a house right now is your best bet!
Opinion: This millenial started with nothing, now has a 5 million dollar portfolio, why don't the ones you know do the same, you should harass them about this.
Property: BUY FUKKIN HOUSES YOU PLEBS
Motoring: Drive yourself to a great new home!
Sport: Watch sport from this excellent house!

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

hooman posted:

News: House prices are going up uP UP!
Money: Buying a house right now is your best bet!
Opinion: This millenial started with nothing, now has a 5 million dollar portfolio, why don't the ones you know do the same, you should harass them about this.
Property: BUY FUKKIN HOUSES YOU PLEBS
Motoring: Drive yourself to a great new home!
Sport: Watch sport from this excellent house!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
It's almost as if now that the mining boom is over Australia has nothing left to do except build empty apartment blocks that nobody can afford to move into.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
australia for fuckkin aussies, m8

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Recoome posted:

australia for fuckkin aussies, m8

:yeah:

Black Australia policy now.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

hooman posted:

:yeah:

Black Australia policy now.
I think you'll find out policy on coal is absolutely top notch!

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005


Are these specific comments or what? I'm not going to Bolt's blog to find out.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

MysticalMachineGun posted:

Are these specific comments or what? I'm not going to Bolt's blog to find out.

hmm.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

hooman posted:

:yeah:

Black lung Australia policy now.

Au Revoir Shosanna
Feb 17, 2011

i support this government and/or service
loving lol at big scotty m calling the next generation entitled

i am literally dead from irony

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Lol today's newspaper headlines. 'Allahu akhbar attack'

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

SynthOrange posted:

Lol today's newspaper headlines. 'Allahu akhbar attack'

"A british backpacker got stabbed"

"Meh"

"She was a model and the attacker yelled Allahu Akhbar"

"Woah, stop the presses! Get me all the hottest photos of this chick for the front page!"

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

MysticalMachineGun posted:

"Woah, stop the presses! Get me all the hottest photos of this dead chick for the front page!"
ftfy

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They're actually playing her vines on the news

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

SynthOrange posted:

Lol today's newspaper headlines. 'Allahu akhbar attack'

An Atari 5200 classic.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


The media is garbage. Gulag now.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Endman posted:

The media is garbage. Gulag now.

Gas World. Ban humans.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

quote:

https://theconversation.com/taxi-driver-compensation-for-uber-is-unfair-and-poorly-implemented-64354

In all states that have legalised the ride-sharing app Uber, the response has been to offer compensation to taxi drivers. This is a typical move by governments that are liberalising long-standing, regulated monopolies. But the amount of compensation is far from fair and the process has been poorly implemented.

Victoria is the latest of the states and territories in allowing Uber to operate and its compensation package is the most generous.

There’s a A$2 levy on each ride (that will vary according to the operator), proposed to provide compensation in the order of $378 million. There is also a $75 million allocation from the levy for a fund for those hit hardest by the reforms.

By contrast, NSW announced a $1 levy per taxi or Uber ride. Some of the funding goes to taxi operators suffering severe financial hardship as a result of the regulatory changes. The total package for NSW is $250 million.

Taxi industry reform had to happen. But it has been driven by populist policy with state governments bowing to pressure from Uber’s disruptive approach. While states are providing compensation packages for taxi licence owners, the amounts pale in comparison to the investment value that has been lost.

In Sydney, average licence values peaked at about $425,000 in 2011, and have been in decline since. Licence owners can expect to receive $20,000 in compensation per licence, with multiple licence owners receiving a maximum of $40,000.

In Melbourne, recent market values were in the order of $150,000, down from around $500,000 in 2010-11. Victoria’s buy-back scheme will provide for a maximum of two licences with $100k offered for the first licence and $50,000 for the second licence.

Taxi licence owners have been mostly kept in the dark about taxi industry reform in Victoria. As late as August 19, taxi operators in Melbourne had no idea what would be in the reform package announced yesterday.

And Victoria’s comparatively generous package might make Sydney and Brisbane operators wonder why the differences in the compensation packages should be so dramatic.

Uber users may not be happy about the additional levies to fund compensation for the taxi industry, either.

But the bigger issue is that investor and voter confidence in state governments' power to regulate effectively has been diminished for three main reasons.

First, Uber effectively broke the law and used its capital to force the end of the old monopoly, allegedly paying drivers' fines while lobbying governments in unique ways.

Rather than encourage a proper transition strategy, even the Prime Minister applauded Uber for its “agile” business model. Uber made the policy, not the elected representatives.

Second, taxi operators have been bound by the rules of the regulated monopoly. They played by the rules established under the rule of law.

Uber didn’t, and, backed by popular sentiment, has cleverly manipulated the taxi industry. State governments continued to regulate taxis but were powerless to enforce their own laws where Uber was concerned.

Third, state governments have been slow to act and adequately transition the formerly regulated monopolies. Reform of the taxi industry was decades overdue. This has effectively destroyed the value created under the rules of the regulated monopoly. While consumers may be unconcerned, the taxi industry did not create itself – it was created as a regulated monopoly by state governments.

If we consider that Melbourne and Sydney alone are serviced by more than 8,000 taxi licences, once valued at up to $500,000 each, then significant investment value has been destroyed. Not by competition, but by a company that broke the law, by consumers who readily supported cheaper prices, and then by state governments that restructured the market by implementing rapid, populist policies.

Had state governments transitioned the taxi industry appropriately, then licence owners could have had adequate time to prepare. It is not their fault that state governments were slow to act.

Uber has won, and there will be much rejoicing by consumers. But the way the transition has occurred verges on the unethical, and licence owners are footing the bill.

This is inherently unfair. In a regulated monopoly, the regulated players have little impact on the rules.

The damage done by populist policy and poor regulatory oversight in the taxi industry is a far cry from the slow, unnatural death of the Australian automotive manufacturing industry. In fact, automotive manufacturers are still protected by tariffs even though the industry is set to end very soon. It is obvious that the investors in the taxi industry lack the political clout of the automotive industry multinationals.

It is clear that multinationals can manipulate state governments by adopting Uber’s approach. All you need is plenty of money, a plan to introduce cheaper prices for consumers, and the boldness to flaunt the law. As we have seen, state governments will then roll over.

Let’s now hope that your retirement savings are not next in the way of unscheduled reform.

Cheap Trick
Jan 4, 2007

Anidav posted:

It's almost as if now that the mining boom is over Australia has nothing left to do except build empty apartment blocks that nobody can afford to move into.

Ah, a touch of familiarity for Chinese immigrants

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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best reply I've seen so far:

quote:

Michael - it looks like you’ve written this analysis without any regard to the recent history of taxi policy and reform in Victoria.

Only a couple of years ago there was a review of the taxi industry that proposed a staged, modest transition to liberalisation that recognised the fundamental unsustainability of the regulatory monopoly.

Rather than offering a scintilla of cooperation, the taxi industry organised and en masse tantrum, screaming blue murder about how they would all be ruined if they couldn’t keep ripping passengers off and delivering crap, unsafe service.

Your presentation of the taxi industry as innocent naïfs is ridiculous. A highly organised industry has wrapped its lobbying tentacles for years around policy settings in an effort to use the law to channel ridiculous profits into its pockets while running a cosy, uncompetitive racket.

All the while the taxi industry has ruthlessly exploited its workforce. For all that Uber is (justifiably) questioned for its labour practices, the taxi industry has for years been running a byzantine labour system that sees some of the country’s lowest paid workers employed without basic OHS protections, and held liable for damage to their employer’s vehicles.

The taxi industry is anything but a group of cleanskins. They have acted as a cartel and the value of those licences represents the value of the rort they have inflicted at the expense of their customers and workers.

Where is it written that an investor who buys an asset whose value exists only as a contrivance of an antiquated and unfair regulatory apparatus - one which the beneficiaries have long contrived to maintain for no reason beyond avarice - is entitled to compensation when the long, long party finally winds up?

Governments have failed in their sluggish indolence in the face of obvious policy failures, and in their inability to stand up to the faintest resistance from self-evidently self-interested industry groups. I’d rather an orderly regulatory change but the taxi industry has no-one to blame but themselves for declaring war on every previous attempt at reform.

Now reform is inevitable they put their hands out, begging bowl up and a sob story ready for the media about how unfair it all is that their licensed system of theft is finally unravelling.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

I don't think that's really counter to anything he wrote, and I agree with both the original article and the reply. I don't think it's fair to say he characterised the taxi industry as naifs, and he notes that reform had to happen. It's just that the way it happened is far from ideal.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Has this government already jumped the shark?

Parliament hasn't yet set but following up on his utterly inept Public Bar test gaff Morrison decided that the unemployed should be put back in the cross hairs.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-25/scott-morrison-bloomberg-address-gen-y-reliant-on-welfare/7783788

Read it if you still have enough self control not to bludgeon yourself to death afterwards. "Treasurer Scott Morrison has warned of a new divide between "the taxed and taxed-nots", saying Australia has a generation growing up expecting Government handouts." Yes guys you can wrap it up! It was Gen Y all along! The scummy fuckers.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-25/opposition-may-prevent-afp-from-using-documents-in-nbn-investig/7782894

I am also in favour of the AFP not being used as a blunt instrument by the government.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-25/nsw-fair-trading-lifts-lid-on-most-complained-about-companies/7782320

Naming and shaming? Not the least bit surprised to see LJ Hooker at the top of the list.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-25/us-government-buys-5-million-kilograms-of-cheese/7783202

Do what we say. Not what we do.

Nobody has posted about the French submarine leak fiasco yet so:

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2016/s4525674.htm

quote:

Govt insists leak from French company building Australian subs won't affect project Andrew Greene reported this story on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:14:00

The Federal Government insists that the leak of secret information from the French company chosen to build Australia's new submarines won't affect the $50 billion project. The French company has been rocked by the leaking of classified material about a similar project it's completing in India. The exposure has raised concerns about the secret data its handling for the Royal Australian Navy, but the Federal Government says the breach has no local implications.

The bigger question really is has nobody driven a Peugeot, Renault or Citroen lately?

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

https://twitter.com/theboltreport/status/768382226010558468

Latham looking haggard.

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MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005


I guess taking a big steaming poo poo on a conversation could be seen as an addition, sure.

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