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Evil thoughts: is there a way to get Primed onto Risen?
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Aug 24, 2016 13:45
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albany academy posted:Evil thoughts: is there a way to get Primed onto Risen? I think there was something a while back that said if you had Alexia1 out of formation...somehow...(with the faction UA, maybe?) you could get spells onto the Risen. If it's the UA trick, then I guess dwarves wouldn't be able to do it. Unless you got a Rhulia UA for merc units...
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Aug 24, 2016 13:48
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Pyrolocutus posted:I think there was something a while back that said if you had Alexia1 out of formation...somehow...(with the faction UA, maybe?) you could get spells onto the Risen. If it's the UA trick, then I guess dwarves wouldn't be able to do it. Unless you got a Rhulia UA for merc units... Yeah, you need a ranking officer for the trick to work (so Valachev, Murdoch, Attendant Priest and the Dominator are the only current options). It is an odd bit of behavior, but it's been discussed since day 1 of MK3 and hasn't been eratta'd yet, so I don't think it's too scummy to play it this way.
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Aug 24, 2016 14:39
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CaptCommy posted:Yeah, you need a ranking officer for the trick to work (so Valachev, Murdoch, Attendant Priest and the Dominator are the only current options). It is an odd bit of behavior, but it's been discussed since day 1 of MK3 and hasn't been eratta'd yet, so I don't think it's too scummy to play it this way. I mean in the scheme of weird tricks, it's not really that game breaking off a thing either...
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Aug 24, 2016 15:37
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At best you're putting an upkeep on a largely poo poo unit and a power solo.
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Aug 24, 2016 15:39
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albany academy posted:Just remember that your risen are there to eat up your opponent's clock, not your own! The person who took first place at the steamroller I was at last weekend won because all of their opponents death-clocked themselves. Make sure you know your rules / models, folks!
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Aug 24, 2016 15:43
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I took this Aiakos2 list to the local store last night: (Aiakos 2) Captain Aiakos [+29] - Kraken [36] - Defiler [8] - Shrike [6] - The Withershadow Combine [9] General Gerlak Slaughterborn [7] Bloodgorgers (max) [15] Bane Warriors (max) [17] - Bane Warrior Officer & Standard [6] And went up against, from what I remember, this Kreoss3 list: http://conflictchamber.com/#b21b0A1U2f1L1r3q2v3k3C3D3p3t3z4i30 Protectorate Army - 74 / 75 points (Kreoss 2) Grand Exemplar Kreoss [+28] - Crusader [10] - Fire of Salvation [16] - Vigilant [9] - Devout [9] - Hierophant [3] Exemplar Vengers (max) [20] Allegiant of the Order of the Fist [3] The Covenant of Menoth [4] High Exemplar Gravus [9] Knights Exemplar Seneschal [5] Vassal Mechanik [1] Vassal of Menoth [3] Saxon Orrik [4] Choir of Menoth (max) [6] I ended up blowing the feat turn because of stupid bodyblocking with my Bane UA preventing my Kraken from being 100% effective, but managed to win on scenario (Incursion). It mostly came down to him swerving for the flag on my right, which had a forest blocking LOS with the long edge to the rest of the board. He had his Vengers, Kreoss, Gravus, Seneschal all pretty much tucked back there with the non-Devout warjacks pressing the center flag. I was able to just refuse the flank, go for the other two flags, and send in sacrificial Banes to contest/bodyblock. Overall I like the Aiakos list, but it's not a final version because I need a Necrotech in there for sure. I'm thinking of either dropping the Bane UA for Necrotech + Warwitch Siren, or dropping the base unit to min for Necrotech + 5 points of something. Bane Warriors are still pretty good, losing Stealth sucks but forests are always an option because you don't have to worry about the movement penalty, meaning you can camp in there for Concealment and always get a full charge. I really want to try them with Goreshade2 for Occult on one unit and Mirage on the other, camp the Miraged unit >3" in a forest and suddenly pop forward to hopefully surprise the poo poo out of my opponent. Shrike didn't get to do much since there weren't a lot of good targets for a trample, but at DEF 15 it served as a pain in the rear end for his non-warjack cluster to shift. Bloodgorgers didn't get to live the Carnage + Overtaking dream because of the low-model count high ARM thing, but I'd take another list anyways if I expect to see that in a tournament.
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Aug 24, 2016 15:54
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TheInvisiblePooka posted:The person who took first place at the steamroller I was at last weekend won because all of their opponents death-clocked themselves. This sentence depresses me.
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Aug 24, 2016 16:28
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Why? There was a guy in our meta who had a similar thing happen, and it's because lots of people are new or coming back to the game for MK3.
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Aug 24, 2016 16:49
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counterspin posted:Why? There was a guy in our meta who had a similar thing happen, and it's because lots of people are new or coming back to the game for MK3. I guess winning on clock always feels less...I dunno rewarding?
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Aug 24, 2016 16:53
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Luebbi posted:If Rhupert wasn't meant to give Pathfinder to Warjacks, he'd surely only be able to give it to warrior models! Oh wait... They could have buffs cast on them in mk2 and that didn't break the game. I don't know why it would make a difference. "Granted" is a very specific choice for the unit. Remember, the unit actually lost potency in the transition because of them losing arcane disjunction and alexia losing a point of defense.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:09
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If you win on deathclock, there's usually a fair chance the gap between your opponent and you is large enough so that you'd flatten them anyhow.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:10
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Saalkin posted:I guess winning on clock always feels less...I dunno rewarding? As a regular eBaldur player I have to disagree.
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Aug 24, 2016 17:11
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I dunno, I just don't think it's very satisfying when I win on clock. It's happened, I've never lost on clock. To win an entire tournament because of the clock is rough. Yeah yeah, I know the usual lectures about how it's part of the game, managing time is a skill, etc, etc, but we're still talking about man dollies pretending to shoot other man dollies so running out of time just isn't my deal. It's one of the reasons why the tournament scene ain't for me.
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Aug 24, 2016 18:16
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fnordcircle posted:I dunno, I just don't think it's very satisfying when I win on clock. It's happened, I've never lost on clock. To win an entire tournament because of the clock is rough. I get what you're saying completely. Honestly, I just see it as part of the nature of playing armor skew, and I enjoy watching little man dollies flail pointlessly against a wall of rock. It's certainly not flashy, but it's fun at times.
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Aug 24, 2016 19:03
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fnordcircle posted:I dunno, I just don't think it's very satisfying when I win on clock. It's happened, I've never lost on clock. To win an entire tournament because of the clock is rough. Make every tournament timed turns as god intended
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Aug 24, 2016 19:54
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S.J. posted:Make every tournament timed turns as god intended Your God is evil and doesn't deserve existence or worship.
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Aug 24, 2016 20:20
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TheInvisiblePooka posted:Your God is evil and doesn't deserve existence or worship. Timed turns uber alles
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Aug 24, 2016 20:46
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Timed turns are the devil and eBaldur's a poo poo. 
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Aug 24, 2016 21:13
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Wizard Styles posted:Timed turns are the devil and eBaldur's a poo poo. Arm 23 no debuff double wrath brah
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Aug 24, 2016 21:18
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Well, I said he's a poo poo, not poo poo. Unfortunately, he's not poo poo at all. Just a massive poo poo.
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Aug 24, 2016 21:39
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Wizard Styles posted:I said he's a poo poo, The Haiku of eBaldur.
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Aug 24, 2016 23:24
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S.J. posted:Timed turns are terrible 
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Aug 24, 2016 23:26
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Deathclock is the best. So is painting mandollies. Look at my Madrak.   Here's the comparison with the Madrak1 I did when I got my first Trollblood models. 
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Aug 24, 2016 23:36
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loving communist of course you'd want to strangle legitimate competition
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Aug 24, 2016 23:37
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koreban posted:The Haiku of eBaldur.  Fyrbrand posted:Deathclock is the best.
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Aug 25, 2016 00:12
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Fyrbrand posted:Deathclock is the best. I hope this doesn't piss you off too much, but I think that they are both rather good looking figures. I think I'm honestly less discerning about paint jobs anymore, I'm just glad to have people painting their stuff.
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Aug 25, 2016 00:29
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Fyrbrand posted:Deathclock is the best. You paint warmans very well. Death clock is the only clock for me. I sure hope SJ doesn't become my local pressganger because timed turns are dumb and bad. I don't want to live under his dumb and bad tyrannical fist. Gr4vyB04t fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2016 01:35
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Pretty sure timed turns were invented by Hitler. You wouldn't want to support Hitler would you?
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Aug 25, 2016 02:07
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Pretty sure timed turns was invented by Hitler. You wouldn't want to support Hitler would you? Germanic people invented the clock, this checks out
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Aug 25, 2016 03:06
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So I've noticed that in Warmachine Mk 3, you can now get backstrikes by walking around your enemy and hitting them in the back. You don't need to have been in their back arc for your whole activation like in the previous version. I play the Iron Kingdoms RPG with some friends, and our party's cutthroat has had difficulty setting up back strikes, since you need to be in the enemy's back arc for the entire activation in the IKRPG rules. Anyone know if it would horribly unbalance things to port over the new and improved Warmachine backstrike rules to our IKRPG campaign? Maybe they need to publish an errata, or a new edition or something of IKRPG...
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Aug 25, 2016 03:56
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We just use all the new rules for IKRPG. Game is still good and fun.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:05
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I really wish it was better, as much as I've enjoyed it. Building encounters is a total crapshoot and the rules for constructing enemies is awful. Also, the arcane/skilled/mighty archetypes are horribly balanced against each other.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:11
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HJE-Cobra posted:Anyone know if it would horribly unbalance things to port over the new and improved Warmachine backstrike rules to our IKRPG campaign? Considering how awful IKRPG's balance already is, I don't see how it could possibly hurt.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:14
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Thinking about getting back into the game with cryx. I know they are not great now, but are the awful?
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Aug 25, 2016 04:14
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Butt Beholder posted:Thinking about getting back into the game with cryx. I know they are not great now, but are the awful? Cryx are still great actually, they just aren't the levels of zero-effort great that they used to be.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:16
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KPC_Mammon posted:Considering how awful IKRPG's balance already is, I don't see how it could possibly hurt. Hahah fair enough. What other rules should get ported over from Warmachine Mk 3 to IKRPG? Warjacks getting a free focus point each round when in range of the warcaster? Whatever the new rule is about throwing stuff? But yeah, I've been the one GMing for my friends and it seems challenging to construct an encounter for them. It feels like the fights can drag on forever sometimes, while still being too easy?? Maybe I am just bad at GMing. Still fun, anyway. I hope to get their party of mercenaries fighting some Protectorate of Menoth dudes sooner or later.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:18
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Butt Beholder posted:Thinking about getting back into the game with cryx. I know they are not great now, but are the awful? That depends, are you a member of the Internet hive mind or are you a strong independent woman that don't need no man? If you're the former go buy Khador, if you're not a complete mouth breather, go get some undead pirates.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:19
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HJE-Cobra posted:Hahah fair enough. No, that's pretty accurate. It's difficult to challenge the PCs with regular bad guys so you need a swarm of them which takes forever, or you use tougher guys which turn the fights really swingy and can still take forever because of how hard they can be to kill since they're very similar or identical to PC characters. AnElegantPeacock posted:That depends, are you a member of the Internet hive mind or are you a strong independent woman that don't need no man? If you're the former go buy Khador, if you're not a complete mouth breather, go get some undead pirates. yep S.J. fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2016 04:20
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Butt Beholder posted:Thinking about getting back into the game with cryx. I know they are not great now, but are the awful? Cryx are still good and cool.
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Aug 25, 2016 04:22
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