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I hosted a viewing party for 202 and there were multiple people who don't watch MMA who experienced instant and violent hate upon seeing mike perry, and they had not even seen the weigh ins the day before. They soon were acquainted with the cruel sense of humor of the MMA gods when Perry went on to destroy Lim.
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Marching Powder posted:nearly on par with condit / maia in terms of things i really wanted to see but never really thought about. it's a great and perfectly relevant fight for both of them. I'd like to emphatically agree with this take on Nelson vs Kim
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Aug 25, 2016 05:06
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Mike Perry is burnt out on meth c/d
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Aug 25, 2016 05:20
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Marching Powder posted:conor got beat half to death in the third round. it was a combination of nate's insane pace in the third and conor's amazing bodywork (and footwork, lol) that caused nate to slow and mcgregor to catch his breath If he got beat half to death how did he unambigiously win the next round by doing what he had done the entire fight (slaughter nate with counters at every range except slugging range)?
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Aug 25, 2016 05:30
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I'm rewatching Condit and Maia fights these past few days and it seems like Condit doesn't really have a good td defense and rather relies on being very active at the bottom and exploding out when he gets the chance. I don't think he can do that to Maia, so if he gets taken down he'll wear a human backpack for most of that fight.Foul Fowl posted:If he got beat half to death how did he unambigiously win the next round by doing what he had done the entire fight (slaughter nate with counters at every range except slugging range)? Nate gassed and Conor got the Robbie Lawler second wind?
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Aug 25, 2016 05:31
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Foul Fowl posted:If he got beat half to death how did he unambigiously win the next round by doing what he had done the entire fight (slaughter nate with counters at every range except slugging range)? literally explained in the paragraph you quoted
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Aug 25, 2016 05:34
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Conor kicking the poo poo out of Nate's leg like you're supposed to do against Nate Diaz was much more important than anything about being conservative with his energy.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:35
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i'm looking for .gifs of that ending flurry to see, but you guys probably already counted em: how many punches does nate buzz mcgregor with/how grounded is he during that close range barrage against the fence?
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Aug 25, 2016 05:37
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UnfurledSails posted:I'm rewatching Condit and Maia fights these past few days and it seems like Condit doesn't really have a good td defense and rather relies on being very active at the bottom and exploding out when he gets the chance. I don't think he can do that to Maia, so if he gets taken down he'll wear a human backpack for most of that fight. Maia gasses hard even when he is in complete control of the fight. If he can't finish Condit then he's probably going to get smoked in the later rounds.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:44
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Maia gasses hard even when he is in complete control of the fight. If he can't finish Condit then he's probably going to get smoked in the later rounds. further, condit is loving exhausting to fight regardless of how 'in control' you are. this is not good for maia. maia sub r1 or 2, condit ko 3, 4 or 5. i cannot fathom it going the distance.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:49
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Marching Powder posted:further, condit is loving exhausting to fight regardless of how 'in control' you are. this is not good for maia. maia sub r1 or 2, condit ko 3, 4 or 5. i cannot fathom it going the distance. doesn't all the offense condit throws from his back mean he's very likely to present maia opportunities
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Aug 25, 2016 05:51
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Eat Bum Zen posted:doesn't all the offense condit throws from his back mean he's very likely to present maia opportunities possibly. but condit, as a byproduct of being there for like 50% of his fights, has one of the best guards in the game and getting back to his feet is what he does. maia is on a different level to people on a different level though, and it's possible that he'll just take condit apart on the ground. i don't know. i don't even suspect that i know. that's why it's so fascinating to me.
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Aug 25, 2016 05:53
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Marching Powder posted:literally explained in the paragraph you quoted my post disappeared because i'm in the underground but i really didn't think conor was hurt that bad. i haven't rewatched the fight though so i guess we just saw different things but conor kinda continued to beat up nate unimpeded so i guess i have a hard time seeing him that hurt.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:03
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Conor's boxing looked significantly better and his cardio still saw him in a fair bit of trouble.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:04
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Foul Fowl posted:my post disappeared because i'm in the underground but i really didn't think conor was hurt that bad. i haven't rewatched the fight though so i guess we just saw different things but conor kinda continued to beat up nate unimpeded so i guess i have a hard time seeing him that hurt. he was hurt bad enough that a judge gave it a 10-8 and there are an awful lot of people who agree with that. and by beat up i assume you mean took the forth round which was very, very close imo and then lose the fifth in everyone's opinion.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:06
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Dan Didio posted:Conor's boxing looked significantly better i just can't really get behind this. what was better to me in this fight was the game plan. i posited this before but i think that whoever made the first move lost the exchange like 80% of the time due to them both being sick counter strikers. nate's best weapon is his 1-2 in attack and check hook on the counter. conor hacked nate's leg forcing nate to attempt to strike first for nearly 2 entire rounds using, you guessed it, the 1-2 which conor countered all day. as the fight wore on though, the complexion changed and then changed again. god drat it was a sick fight.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:10
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Condit is also extremely good at cracking dudes and getting the gently caress outta dodge. I agree maia is a puzzle but condit is much better at touch butt in the park than matt brown.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:18
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Marching Powder posted:he was hurt bad enough that a judge gave it a 10-8 and there are an awful lot of people who agree with that. and by beat up i assume you mean took the forth round which was very, very close imo and then lose the fifth in everyone's opinion. i'm rewatching the old gifs and while I think Conor took a lot of shots then he's got an iron chin and I can't tell if Diaz had enough energy to buzz him with shots, gonna rewatch round three
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Aug 25, 2016 06:23
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Marching Powder posted:he was hurt bad enough that a judge gave it a 10-8 and there are an awful lot of people who agree with that. and by beat up i assume you mean took the forth round which was very, very close imo and then lose the fifth in everyone's opinion. there's no way that round was a 10-8. and there's no way round 4 was 'very, very close'. i'm starting to think you have a dog in this race.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:46
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Foul Fowl posted:there's no way that round was a 10-8. and there's no way round 4 was 'very, very close'. i'm starting to think you have a dog in this race. no, i'm right, YOU'RE wrong!
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Aug 25, 2016 06:51
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If 3 is a 10-8, so is 1.
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Aug 25, 2016 06:55
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I scored rounds 1 to 5 209 motherfuckers
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Aug 25, 2016 06:56
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Lloyd Boner posted:If 3 is a 10-8, so is 1. that's bullshit for several reasons, most notably in the facet that the fight was never in any sort of danger of being stopped. that isn't to say the round was close, i don't know the stats but mcgregor outlanded diaz by a significant margin, but the damage he did to diaz was nowhere near fight ending and at all times there were two people in that fight. in the third round, mcgregor did not just stop throwing attacks of his own, but he was being positionally bullied and had the poo poo beat the gently caress out of him to the point where if the fight was ever going to be stopped, it would have been there.
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Aug 25, 2016 07:00
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I dont think it was a particularly close fight
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Aug 25, 2016 07:18
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sure except for the fact that conor was landing up until the last like 60 seconds whereas nate accomplished literally nothing in round 1
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Aug 25, 2016 07:21
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I.N.R.I posted:I dont think it was a particularly close fight It was very close, like 3 rounds to 2.
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Aug 25, 2016 07:23
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Foul Fowl posted:sure except for the fact that conor was landing up until the last like 60 seconds whereas nate accomplished literally nothing in round 1 if accomplishing nothing was the only criteria for a 10-8 then explain chris avila's scorecards
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Aug 25, 2016 07:26
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Lloyd Boner posted:It was very close, like 3 rounds to 2. his definitions of 'close' differ drastically to normal people. i tried to get to the bottom of it once and couldn't. my advice would be to just accept it as a gimmick.
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Aug 25, 2016 07:28
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Lloyd Boner posted:It was very close, like 3 rounds to 2. Just because it was close doesnt mean it was close
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Aug 25, 2016 07:30
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Hmmm so it was close.
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Aug 25, 2016 07:33
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Marching Powder posted:if accomplishing nothing was the only criteria for a 10-8 then explain chris avila's scorecards is chris avila one of the judges? probably because nate landed a lot of punches in the last minute and it seemed like the moment when the fight was turning, same as everyone else who watched it live.
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Aug 25, 2016 07:35
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Close the thread IMO
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Aug 25, 2016 07:37
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1 and 2 were dominant rounds for Conor, they traded 3 and 4 and then 5 was very close but for Nate's late takedown. 3-2 Conor was extremely flattering to Nate who got beat up and knocked down 3 times, and the drawn scorecard was retarded.
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Aug 25, 2016 08:04
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i love how people think a knockdown in mma is automatic grounds for a 10-8 like in boxing and how if a guy doesn't get knocked down but gets the absolute poo poo beat out of him on the feet that it automatically isn't a 10-8 round.
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Aug 25, 2016 08:15
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I hope Handsome Carlo wins his fight and doesn't retire yet.
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Aug 25, 2016 08:16
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Marching Powder posted:i love how people think a knockdown in mma is automatic grounds for a 10-8 like in boxing and how if a guy doesn't get knocked down but gets the absolute poo poo beat out of him on the feet that it automatically isn't a 10-8 round. it has nothing to do with knockdowns, i don't think either round was a 10-8 because neither had enough discrepancy in offense to merit it. sorry.
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Foul Fowl posted:it has nothing to do with knockdowns, i don't think either round was a 10-8 because neither had enough discrepancy in offense to merit it. sorry. to be honest i'm ok with r3 being a 10-9, but if as a conor fan you can put your hand on your heart and say 'i'd be 1000% ok with that round going another 30 seconds, there was no way it would have been stopped' then hey, good for you, we perceive things differently. me? i'd say conor was saved by that bell, and i would probably have given it a 10-8 (have not rewatched it since live)
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Aug 25, 2016 08:36
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Joe Rogan said on his podcast that Donald Cerrone is on next Tuesday (30th, I believe).
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nelson/kim is cool as heck and i'll probably go if flights and tickets are reasonable
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Marching Powder posted:to be honest i'm ok with r3 being a 10-9, but if as a conor fan you can put your hand on your heart and say 'i'd be 1000% ok with that round going another 30 seconds, there was no way it would have been stopped' then hey, good for you, we perceive things differently. me? i'd say conor was saved by that bell, and i would probably have given it a 10-8 (have not rewatched it since live) i don't think it would have but i have also not seen the fight again. so i guess we will reconfer after a second viewing to establish who Was Right and Is Cool. e: also i am a fan of both and i really like that these fights have finally propelled nate into the position of the leading diaz brother. Foul Fowl fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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