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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Sid Vicious posted:

i think they knew for quite some time they were just going for as quick of a single ban wave as they could for as many actual furries as they could lol

Ah the McCree strategy.

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Furries are tame now that we have bronies, people who paid money to see Suicide Squad and Donald Trump supporters.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Wikkheiser posted:

Furries are tame now that we have bronies, people who paid money to see Suicide Squad and Donald Trump supporters.

But you repeat yourself.

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

Wikkheiser posted:

Furries are tame now that we have bronies, people who paid money to see Suicide Squad and Donald Trump supporters.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013




I have never seen a better argument in favor of 2nd amendment rights than that image.

Shoot them.

Shoot them all.

The Good Queen Clitoris
May 11, 2008

You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, bravo sir!

Wasn't that dude Demonious X a goon? He was the first ever train wreck I watched on youtube good memories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYMOhn0yldc

Wurzag
Jun 3, 2007

Bad Moons, Bad Moons, wot ya gonna do?


Tinny_Tim posted:

Wasn't that dude Demonious X a goon? He was the first ever train wreck I watched on youtube good memories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYMOhn0yldc

Don't think he ever was, the fyad threads about him were pretty funny though

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

CaptainSarcastic posted:

I have never seen a better argument in favor of 2nd amendment rights than that image.

Shoot them.

Shoot them all.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013




Those furries appear to have inconsistent political opinions, but that is really secondary to them simply needing to be shot.

wyntyr
Mar 27, 2006
Workers of the world unite, and burn all furries alive.

Scudworth
Jan 1, 2005

When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and make super lemons.

Dinosaur Gum
Yiff in hell

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.
Apologies if it's already been posted, but this is relevant: Rainfurrest 2015, Seattle:nws:

It's all kinds of :shrek: and :pedo: and :stonk:. The only convention that makes Dashcon look successful by comparison.

Mr. 47 has a new favorite as of 14:37 on Aug 25, 2016

White Noise Marine
Apr 14, 2010

Mr. 47 posted:

Apologies if it's already been posted, but this is relevant: Rainfurrest 2015, Seattle:nws:

It's all kinds of :shrek: and :pedo: and :stonk:. The only convention that makes Dashcon look successful by comparison.

:stonkhat:

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Mr. 47 posted:

Apologies if it's already been posted, but this is relevant: Rainfurrest 2015, Seattle:nws:

It's all kinds of :shrek: and :pedo: and :stonk:. The only convention that makes Dashcon look successful by comparison.

Did they give everyone an extra hour in the pit bull? :woof:

KhyrosFinalCut
Dec 16, 2004

Get it?

BIG TIT LIL NIP posted:

jynx. i put a thousend tigers apund ur head


I still use the image from the t-shirt for that as my avatar at work, and I still occasionally wear the t-shirt.

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.

univbee posted:

Did they give everyone an extra hour in the pit bull? :woof:

:stonklol:

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Caro's story is just getting to the part where he got captured fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck he needs to update

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

univbee posted:

Did they give everyone an extra hour in the pit bull? :woof:

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

The Wizard of Poz posted:

You really understated this. He literally was in a Syrian prison and was sorta-recently rescued by the CIA.

wasn't it putin who bought him out?

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

symbolic posted:

literal nazi furry is still around GBS. you can probably ask him about it.

and he's also hiding in plain sight

not many people realize it, but he actually is a literal nazi furry


Sid Vicious posted:

i think they knew for quite some time they were just going for as quick of a single ban wave as they could for as many actual furries as they could lol

they didn't even catch them all: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3595620

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Mr. R. Kyanka,
I've just received my first confirmation to join an adult mailing list on this particular email address, EVER. I'd like to ask you exactly how juvenile your biggest fans are, but they're obviously proving their status of clueless net geeks already. I'm surprised, considering your own self-inflated image of how you apply a strictly entertainament only website that you ALLOW this to happen. And I question the level you disclaimed SPEWS regarding spam and unsolicited email clogging the net.
Kindly remove my email address from your website immediately and post on your website, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE YOUR FORUMS, a statement to desist this activity. Do NOT include my email address in your statement but make it perfectly clear who your donkeys need to be avoiding.
I want a complete copy of your post regarding my requested withdrawal of personal information.
Although I find your 'witty banter' (what) somewhat entertaining, I'm sending you, and https://www.somethingawful.com " a final reminder that my kids use this PC. Please keep the level of your dolts' contact outside the boundaries of adult content as I am legally holding your company responsible should they view anything pornographic in my inbox.
It might be fun for you and me to play 'outshit the moron' but if my kids hit receive and see what elle_moth sent to my PC then legal action will go further than just the sender. He/she/it has been duly notified that this is not a practise I encourage, nor hold as a bit of a laugh. I take it VERY seriously. He/she/it had one BIG warning shot.
If you want to keep this on a textual format, then so be it. At least ask your reprobates to try and make it personal, as their curent methods resemble a weak gathering of half assed net hacks who like to think of themselves as hackers because they hold a frikkin' hotmail account. Not that I'm criticising the retards who've tried to corespond in one sylable insults.
Personally, the problem I have with your hacks current text in their unimaginative emails is their absolute tendancy to use the words 'gay', 'fag', and 'cocksucker'. All of which I find lacking in originality and exposing themselves as unoriginal, adolescent, homophobic fools. They have less net savvy than a miscarriage and I'm willing to tackle these fools via email so long as they learn to pay homage to my feet after their retard asses figure out exactly who is better at flaming .But could you inform your dolts, that replying to the shite I upped that gave you coniptions, then reply to 'hooflungdung@hushmail.com'. I'd like to keep my kids away from the base level your cohorts are replying with.
And also, if you could enlighten them that insulting people doesn't necesarily have to include rehashed Jpegs they might find amusing, but have been around since Usenet was the be all and end all of this kind of verbal therapy. And let them know that a single attachment from them will be sent back ten fold on the first reply, and doubled/tripled/etc for each attempt thereafter.
Should be an easy task, but I see you've already brainwashed the mindless fuckers to obey your whim with unoriginal homo insults and trying to subscribe me to porn newsletters.
At this point, I'm willing to ask the obvious.
Exactly how many stay at home wankers do you call OK subscribers. And how do you relate to them? It's not a hard stretch from here to imagine what you want to say and you will say as a reply.
I'm perfectly willing to be abused on your lovely little site, had your chicken arse not banned me, but when my kids get to read the tripe your minions are sending, including illegaly sent porn, then I'm game for whose laughing next.
INCLUDING LAWSUITS.
My back is up on this and, AGAIN, I leave this in your court to call a truce and obey my requests. You can either keep my ban intact, or allow me to take on the 'best' of your juvenile attack squad on your grounds.
Create a forum that only 'the banned' can post in, and your cohorts can reply in, if you're man enough. Call it 'The Banned' or 'Attack Squad', whatever you wish. Or you could always chicken out, as I'm guessing you will. I don't think you can handle unbridled, in your face replies from an educated source. I say my mind. Always have done, always will.
I'm willing to get a grilling from your donkeys, so long as it's in YOUR forum, with your ability to just tell who is a poo poo. And under the guidelines that your website set out udner the initial policy I ignored.. This gets your donkeys out of my email so my kids can receive theirs without having to put up with the mindless, rear end loving drivel your judge and jury only seem capable of rendering, and moving into the very same court you judged me on.
Sound OK by You Mr Kyanka?
Let's put this in perspective.
You have £5.71 of my money. It's not much, I have many ways to regain that, metaphorically speaking, including gettting all 46 offices in my company (thats, over 450 T1 connections) to spend ten minutes a day searching for your site on google (it's #5) and hitting RMB, backspace, repeat, ad infinitum for as long as this takes. It's a costly lesson to to teach. But when I payed my hard earned money to a retarded, backwood website, I expected a bit of recompense when you assholes didn't have the hardware up that allowed me to even view what I paid for.
Foprgive me, I'm a rabid fucker whose fun loving. Thus, my staff adore me. Count the cost of being a jumped up prick who thinks he's untouchable in the equation and and I don't exactly think you'll be paying your bandwidth bills in a couple of months time. Barring one of you losers winning the lottery.
I find it almost amusing that a crap website, run by an rear end in a top hat,who spent so much time fighting SPEWS, but allows it's own members to proliferate spam to somebody you personally chose not to like still runs and hosts a website like yours(Can you see the hypocrisy here).
Tell me, does this make you the absolute hypocrite of the year? And can I post your email address, under this form of webwar, knowing it's paid bandwidth on your part, in a selection of hand picked troll usenet newsgroups to make my losing £5.71 less of the burden your minions are trying to make it?
You'll note that none of my reply tactics have been illegal thus far. They never will be, without permission. And should this come to a court session, anything I do to cost you money will not be admissable as simply clicking on a Google link or repyling with a 50MB bitmap with text on it is not exactly deemed protocol, but legal none the less.
It's your bandwidth. I don't pay for mine.
If you want to play a generically infantile war on email, then you, and only you, will be held responsible.
If you wish to further the level of dialect between us, then please tell your donkeys to refrain from sending porn or hooking me up with the same spam websites that got you guys ' had nothing to do with' before getting whacked on the SPEWS list, hypocrite! It's no wonder a retard professional troll site like yourselves got whacked in on that! You're nothing more than the epitome of what you say you aren't, rear end in a top hat.
That's MY rules and I don't take money to start discourse with retards. You, apparently, charge for the opposite. And I, apparently, do my research.
Should you really want to know exactly why I'm out for war on https://www.somethingawful.com it's your attitude, boy. Your first reply to me was out of order. I can take a face full of your kinds garbage, so long as it's delivered in a humorous way. But I'll never take a face full of gobshite from an unsubstantiated, hypocritical imbecile who is so full of his venom that it takes over his entire ability to actually reply without hitting the defense button whilst it's always set on auto.
And that's you. An insecure, web-freak loser with the ability to try to break a 'newbie' down to submission. And you'll never do that to me.
I've been online since your momma took you out of diapers, kid. So don't gently caress with me on the poo poo issues you 're starting this rant on.
You're defensless outside your own tribe of geeks. And you know it.
In short. I'll take all of your simple-minded trolls on via text emails, should you not be man enough to allow access to what I paid for. But tell them to keep adult content (porn) the gently caress out of my inbox. I WILL hold you unduly accounted for anything my kids see that one of your donkeys sends from now on.
It's your war. But my rules. So have the balls to haul me up in front of your own kind with the ability to shout back, coward.
Thank you for your time. Feel duly notified on the game you started playing.

Link for audio version

Dely Apple
Apr 22, 2006

Sing me Spanish Techno


Why are all the furries always foxes, is it because they only make fox costumes at the furry shop

I mean, maybe they're wolves too I don't want to assume

Principals Orifice
Aug 23, 2016

by Lowtax

univbee posted:

Did they give everyone an extra hour in the pit bull? :woof:

Holy gently caress hahahaha

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.
Oh man. How could I forget the P-P-P-Powerbook! saga that originally brought me to the forums?

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=1016390

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


MorgaineDax posted:

He made an update thread not that long ago.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3775446

Hell yeah, he did.

what the gently caress he had a second kid? jfc

Big Centipede
Mar 20, 2009

it tingles

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Mr. R. Kyanka,
I've just received my first confirmation to join an adult mailing list on this particular email address, EVER. I'd like to ask you exactly how juvenile your biggest fans are, but they're obviously proving their status of clueless net geeks already. I'm surprised, considering your own self-inflated image of how you apply a strictly entertainament only website that you ALLOW this to happen. And I question the level you disclaimed SPEWS regarding spam and unsolicited email clogging the net.
Kindly remove my email address from your website immediately and post on your website, BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE YOUR FORUMS, a statement to desist this activity. Do NOT include my email address in your statement but make it perfectly clear who your donkeys need to be avoiding.
I want a complete copy of your post regarding my requested withdrawal of personal information.
Although I find your 'witty banter' (what) somewhat entertaining, I'm sending you, and https://www.somethingawful.com " a final reminder that my kids use this PC. Please keep the level of your dolts' contact outside the boundaries of adult content as I am legally holding your company responsible should they view anything pornographic in my inbox.
It might be fun for you and me to play 'outshit the moron' but if my kids hit receive and see what elle_moth sent to my PC then legal action will go further than just the sender. He/she/it has been duly notified that this is not a practise I encourage, nor hold as a bit of a laugh. I take it VERY seriously. He/she/it had one BIG warning shot.
If you want to keep this on a textual format, then so be it. At least ask your reprobates to try and make it personal, as their curent methods resemble a weak gathering of half assed net hacks who like to think of themselves as hackers because they hold a frikkin' hotmail account. Not that I'm criticising the retards who've tried to corespond in one sylable insults.
Personally, the problem I have with your hacks current text in their unimaginative emails is their absolute tendancy to use the words 'gay', 'fag', and 'cocksucker'. All of which I find lacking in originality and exposing themselves as unoriginal, adolescent, homophobic fools. They have less net savvy than a miscarriage and I'm willing to tackle these fools via email so long as they learn to pay homage to my feet after their retard asses figure out exactly who is better at flaming .But could you inform your dolts, that replying to the shite I upped that gave you coniptions, then reply to 'hooflungdung@hushmail.com'. I'd like to keep my kids away from the base level your cohorts are replying with.
And also, if you could enlighten them that insulting people doesn't necesarily have to include rehashed Jpegs they might find amusing, but have been around since Usenet was the be all and end all of this kind of verbal therapy. And let them know that a single attachment from them will be sent back ten fold on the first reply, and doubled/tripled/etc for each attempt thereafter.
Should be an easy task, but I see you've already brainwashed the mindless fuckers to obey your whim with unoriginal homo insults and trying to subscribe me to porn newsletters.
At this point, I'm willing to ask the obvious.
Exactly how many stay at home wankers do you call OK subscribers. And how do you relate to them? It's not a hard stretch from here to imagine what you want to say and you will say as a reply.
I'm perfectly willing to be abused on your lovely little site, had your chicken arse not banned me, but when my kids get to read the tripe your minions are sending, including illegaly sent porn, then I'm game for whose laughing next.
INCLUDING LAWSUITS.
My back is up on this and, AGAIN, I leave this in your court to call a truce and obey my requests. You can either keep my ban intact, or allow me to take on the 'best' of your juvenile attack squad on your grounds.
Create a forum that only 'the banned' can post in, and your cohorts can reply in, if you're man enough. Call it 'The Banned' or 'Attack Squad', whatever you wish. Or you could always chicken out, as I'm guessing you will. I don't think you can handle unbridled, in your face replies from an educated source. I say my mind. Always have done, always will.
I'm willing to get a grilling from your donkeys, so long as it's in YOUR forum, with your ability to just tell who is a poo poo. And under the guidelines that your website set out udner the initial policy I ignored.. This gets your donkeys out of my email so my kids can receive theirs without having to put up with the mindless, rear end loving drivel your judge and jury only seem capable of rendering, and moving into the very same court you judged me on.
Sound OK by You Mr Kyanka?
Let's put this in perspective.
You have £5.71 of my money. It's not much, I have many ways to regain that, metaphorically speaking, including gettting all 46 offices in my company (thats, over 450 T1 connections) to spend ten minutes a day searching for your site on google (it's #5) and hitting RMB, backspace, repeat, ad infinitum for as long as this takes. It's a costly lesson to to teach. But when I payed my hard earned money to a retarded, backwood website, I expected a bit of recompense when you assholes didn't have the hardware up that allowed me to even view what I paid for.
Foprgive me, I'm a rabid fucker whose fun loving. Thus, my staff adore me. Count the cost of being a jumped up prick who thinks he's untouchable in the equation and and I don't exactly think you'll be paying your bandwidth bills in a couple of months time. Barring one of you losers winning the lottery.
I find it almost amusing that a crap website, run by an rear end in a top hat,who spent so much time fighting SPEWS, but allows it's own members to proliferate spam to somebody you personally chose not to like still runs and hosts a website like yours(Can you see the hypocrisy here).
Tell me, does this make you the absolute hypocrite of the year? And can I post your email address, under this form of webwar, knowing it's paid bandwidth on your part, in a selection of hand picked troll usenet newsgroups to make my losing £5.71 less of the burden your minions are trying to make it?
You'll note that none of my reply tactics have been illegal thus far. They never will be, without permission. And should this come to a court session, anything I do to cost you money will not be admissable as simply clicking on a Google link or repyling with a 50MB bitmap with text on it is not exactly deemed protocol, but legal none the less.
It's your bandwidth. I don't pay for mine.
If you want to play a generically infantile war on email, then you, and only you, will be held responsible.
If you wish to further the level of dialect between us, then please tell your donkeys to refrain from sending porn or hooking me up with the same spam websites that got you guys ' had nothing to do with' before getting whacked on the SPEWS list, hypocrite! It's no wonder a retard professional troll site like yourselves got whacked in on that! You're nothing more than the epitome of what you say you aren't, rear end in a top hat.
That's MY rules and I don't take money to start discourse with retards. You, apparently, charge for the opposite. And I, apparently, do my research.
Should you really want to know exactly why I'm out for war on https://www.somethingawful.com it's your attitude, boy. Your first reply to me was out of order. I can take a face full of your kinds garbage, so long as it's delivered in a humorous way. But I'll never take a face full of gobshite from an unsubstantiated, hypocritical imbecile who is so full of his venom that it takes over his entire ability to actually reply without hitting the defense button whilst it's always set on auto.
And that's you. An insecure, web-freak loser with the ability to try to break a 'newbie' down to submission. And you'll never do that to me.
I've been online since your momma took you out of diapers, kid. So don't gently caress with me on the poo poo issues you 're starting this rant on.
You're defensless outside your own tribe of geeks. And you know it.
In short. I'll take all of your simple-minded trolls on via text emails, should you not be man enough to allow access to what I paid for. But tell them to keep adult content (porn) the gently caress out of my inbox. I WILL hold you unduly accounted for anything my kids see that one of your donkeys sends from now on.
It's your war. But my rules. So have the balls to haul me up in front of your own kind with the ability to shout back, coward.
Thank you for your time. Feel duly notified on the game you started playing.

Link for audio version

Haha what the gently caress is this

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

no one talking about must love horses proves how good it was

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Big Centipede posted:

Haha what the gently caress is this

Richard,
It seems I have underestimated your ability to fail. For that, I apologize. Not to you, but to the people who would enjoyed seeing me tearing your little world apart just that much more. It’s a shame, really, that you ignored all of my warnings. Perhaps, if you had just a few brain cells left that weren’t circling the bowl, you would have realized how pointless and counterproductive this whole thing was and quit a long time ago. This little venture of yours has failed on every level. On a personal level, for example, have you noticed that the very people you profess to hate have infested your site? They are utterly devoid of reason, their minds deluded with lies and ignorance. Their perceptions are hard-coded in a language they will never understand. Yet, these empty shells have flocked here, and what’s even more amusing about it is, they emulate you. They’ve taken the worst things about you, namely your personality and humor, and twisted it into something far more repugnant than even you are capable of being. One bad joke becomes one thousand hideous hybrids, and it spreads like a virus. This is your audience, Richard, and they love you. That isn’t very important, though. I am sure you don’t care, as long as they’re lined up at the trough. What is important, however, is this.

I would guess that you take as much enjoyment as anyone might at seeing these ridiculous business models fail like the insane fantasies they were. The pseudo reality of Internet commerce has finally been perceived for what it is, and the only people left are those who were lucky, smart or both. Now, being exposed to so much talk of this, for what, like over a loving year now, have you ever stopped to consider how you ever came to the conclusion that a parasite like yourself could possibly hope to survive in this environment? The corporate tit is gone, and you are completely incapable of surviving on your own. You think these failed companies had stupid business models? How about yours? I knew the advertising market was going to collapse years ago, because it’s based on the assumption that banners are effective. Think about it.. You are entirely dependant on advertising.. yet, the people you try to attract are people who aren’t going to click on, let alone buy whatever stupid crap that is being advertised. I am sure most of the clicks you have gotten have been sympathy clicks. Did you actually think that it was going to last forever? Everybody knows it doesn’t loving work, and most sites have to beg their readers to click, just to pay the server bill. Did you think corporations weren’t going to notice that no one was buying their products? You’re an idiot, Richard, and I sincerely mean that. The contemptuously stupid decisions you made regarding the various networks you joined don’t matter at all because the entire idea was flawed from the start. Enjoy your last moments as a free man. You’ll soon be shovelling poo poo for the rest of your life at some nameless corporation, a vacant look forever etched upon your face.

Years from now, when you’re no better off than when you started, when it finally hits you that it’s all been nothing but a wasted lie, think of me. Think of me, Richard, and when you do, realize that I was the only beacon of logic and truth in this sad menagerie. You seem predestined for failure, however, so I doubt there is anything one can do for you. Just remember, when the joy is gone, when you’re clawing at the boundaries of your little world, you always had a choice.

HiHo ChiRho
Oct 23, 2010

E/N Comic thread is hands down my favorite thread, since it's a good collection of the best stories from E/N and goons came out of the woodwork to turn the stories into pure art:



Also which goon was it that posted multiple pictures that always included his nutsack in different threads across the forums? I wanna say Wayne Gretsky but it's been a while

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

HiHo ChiRho posted:

Also which goon was it that posted multiple pictures that always included his nutsack in different threads across the forums? I wanna say Wayne Gretsky but it's been a while

It was him and, if I recall correctly, he was a mod at the time.

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
Not only did he post his nuts in a dozen threads, but he did it over the period of a year. It was magnificent.

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.

just ray
Jan 3, 2014

by merry exmarx

Charles Bukowski posted:

Not only did he post his nuts in a dozen threads, but he did it over the period of a year. It was magnificent.

work of art

Pimpcasso
Mar 13, 2002

VOLS BITCH

is that a 5x pac man snuggie

:stare:

Mr. 47
Jul 8, 2008

Well, I guess I'll just go fuck myself, then.

vols bitch posted:

is that a 5x pac man snuggie

:stare:

I'm pretty sure it's a land manatee throwing a tantrum.

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Is that ozma

various cheeses
Jan 24, 2013

Lol remember when this subforum would have people unironically tut-tutting you for "fatshaming" for posting such a thing?

just ray
Jan 3, 2014

by merry exmarx

various cheeses posted:

Lol remember when this subforum would have people unironically tut-tutting you for "fatshaming" for posting such a thing?

no this place used to suck balls

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



just ray posted:

no this place used to suck balls

Wide ride spotted

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Double Agent
Mar 28, 2005

Maybe we're not just a bunch of frak-ups after all.
None of these really qualify as great sagas, but they still amuse me.

The Who Tripped El Hadji Diouf photoshops are still some of the funniest things ever made here.

darthpunk's Gin and Juice feat. Ted Koppel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFNddciqPPk

One character that has somewhat faded from the forums memory is our own ersatz Mr. Rogers - Mr. Cardigan.

Lastly, locdogg's thread where he discovers, during Thanksgiving, that he has a half sister. Who happens to be porn star Kacey Kox (:nws: just in case). The thread doesn't get any real resolution though. Oh well.

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