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Dren posted:If her turrets recharged faster she could set up a nice no Genji, no tracer zone in any backline GOOD
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Aug 26, 2016 03:20
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So if a enemy team in quick play decides to just all be Zarya and a Lucio there's actually nothing you can do but accept defeat huh. Bastion doesn't give a poo poo about Zarya's barriers and though it seems counterintuitive neither does Reaper, really. I mean you'd probably want to meet cheese with cheese, but in a matchup between 5 Zarya/Lucio and 5 Reaper/Lucio, I'd actually put my money on Team Edgelord.
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Aug 26, 2016 03:27
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5 Zarya/Lucio exists mostly as a counter to 5 D. Va/Lucio which is the counter to basically every other team comp in the game.
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It's so weird that everyone else in the game can be used in multiple instances but people are generally fine with Symmetra being bad because "her ults good" I mean I can't think of a single character that is bad at getting kills on people not paying attention. In fact everyone good at getting kills, EXCELS at getting kills on people paying no attention. I think she can be good at multiple things like other characters. Like Zarya shields teammates in a more beneficial way. Her shield can stop single hit high damage ults from killing teammates. Her ult can hold a team from an objective or open the floodgates to a team kill. Her gun is like symmetras in that it charges up, but not after 3 seconds but from careful defensive and supportive planning. The ideas they had for symmetra were good but there's rarely a time she isn't entirely trumped by someone else. SectumSempra fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Aug 26, 2016 03:51
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Imagine a world where brown girl has a spell that isn't Give Someone 25 Health, Individually Too
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Shotgun ninja: Hello. I have a spell that makes me invulnerable, and I have passive life steal. My ultimate does infinite damage to everyone, everywhere. Brown girl: Interesting; I can give you 25 health, but I must click on you and I must reapply it each time you die. My ultimate is a teleporter from Team Fortress 2, but it has charges.
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Aug 26, 2016 03:56
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Imagine if Symmetra was the next character to be released. How would Blizzard manage to get people hype about her awesome and cool abilities? Nobody would be excited for her.
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Like this is all symmetra is good at Was the sit so strong that her moveset suffered? Was this her buff? SectumSempra fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Aug 26, 2016 03:57
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Bruh.
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Ahhpple posted:Imagine if Symmetra was the next character to be released. How would Blizzard manage to get people hype about her awesome and cool abilities? Nobody would be excited for her. They'd probably just have a bunch of hacking clues i guess. I hope they at least just show a picture of sombra soon.
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Aug 26, 2016 04:06
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Ahhpple posted:Imagine if Symmetra was the next character to be released. How would Blizzard manage to get people hype about her awesome and cool abilities? Nobody would be excited for her. Gun man: I have a self heal and autoaim mode. My gun is good Gun man II: I have an AoE stun and autoaim mode. My gun is good too Brown girl: I have The Small Turret Thats Really Bad and my gun is boring
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strong bird posted:Gun man: I have a self heal and autoaim mode. My gun is good 1 HP Her gun is cool though, I wish it were on an attacking character. That'd be a cool thing.
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Aug 26, 2016 04:07
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Did you like casting kings on every member of your raid in vanilla wow? Well now you can do that again, in an fps!
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Aug 26, 2016 04:11
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Symmetra desperately needs an overhaul from the ground up with most or all of her attacks and abilities changed and I'm not sure Blizzard is willing to do that.
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Aug 26, 2016 04:46
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I've theorized part of the solution might involve allowing her to freely place up to 3 turrets anytime with no cooldown. This would give her a lot more mobility and freedom to quickly seal of parts of the map from pesky flankers, though it would still take time to create a true deathtrap as the cooldown on turret placement would still occur when placing over 3 turrets. This might enable her to be somewhat offensively viable, in that she could seal off key health pack rooms near chokepoints to aid her team and prevent flankers from eating them up. She could then possibly place a teleporter when playing offensively, as she could actually set up protection for it given a few seconds to place the turrets.
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Aug 26, 2016 04:57
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Whatever Symmetra's change is, it should come in the form of increasing her skill ceiling. Buffing turrets is the opposite direction they should be going with her.
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I think they'd have to change the way the turrets or her gun works for that
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Aug 26, 2016 05:05
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Countblanc posted:Whatever Symmetra's change is, it should come in the form of increasing her skill ceiling. Buffing turrets is the opposite direction they should be going with her. Raising the skill ceiling further than "press E five times" isn't exactly a high bar to hurdle. Put another way, raising a skill ceiling only matters when a character has the toolkit to make it worthwhile in the first place.
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Symmetra is easily salvageable unless of course Blizzard insists on turrets being poo poo. Actually she could still be saved with higher dps/better survivability. Oh wait she's support she can't kill dudes that's not her job she's working as intended thanks for your concern. Area denial is a legitimate thing but turrets need to be a serious threat for it to work. Mei's wall is interesting, you could make it permanent if the maps didn't have such annoying chokes. It'd even justify her terrible dps. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Aug 26, 2016 05:12
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Yeah right now there's nowhere they can go with her skillwise. Her primary is auto-hit (which is fine and good, it's handy to have heroes that rely less on twitch skill) but her secondary is so slow to charge and move that it's really only useful for plinking people who don't notice it or firing through rein shields or choke points. And everyone already knows the issues the turrets and shields have, let alone the fact she basically has nothing to really justify her being a support character instead of a defense character. I half wonder if Blizzard would have more leeway in messing with her if she had a "real" ult instead of the teleporter. It incredibly changes the flow of the game when you can successfully make use of it, and not necessarily in a good way considering how obsessed Blizzard is with getting exact distances from spawn points to engagement zones.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:13
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Give her an alternate-alternate-fire. Hold M2 and click M1 to.. shotgun-ish blast based on charge time? short-lived field of some kind?
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Aug 26, 2016 05:15
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Let her hit Q again to instantly port to her tele. Uses a charge.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:18
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The only thing wrong with Symmetra is that her primary needs an extra 5-10m of range, otherwise she and her turrets are perfectly fine, I don't know what you're all on about. Sure, it'd be nice if she had a 'real' ult, but it's not like the teleporter is completely useless.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:19
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Replace her weapon with the shock rifle from Unreal Tournament, complete with the shock combo imo
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Aug 26, 2016 05:30
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Turrets will never be a legitimate threat because there's no loving way to balance it. If they're a threat at the high end then they'll be unstoppable for mid tier people. If they're a threat at the mid tier, they'll still be loving useless at the high end.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:32
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Can't wait for those Genji nerfs and Comp to come back so this game will be worth playing again.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:34
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Symmetra and her turrets can take small stuff on their own, for tougher stuff like the tanks, she's great in tandem with her dirty boy, Junkrat. The two of them can even stop all but the most well coordinated and comped team pushes on their own in chokepoints, turrets + trap + mine + grenades, and then the chainsaw for anything that survives.
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Aug 26, 2016 05:37
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I still think her M2 should fire at high velocity and then slow down. Also she should be able to teleport from sentry turret to sentry turret
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Aug 26, 2016 05:41
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NTRabbit posted:Symmetra and her turrets can take small stuff on their own, for tougher stuff like the tanks, she's great in tandem with her dirty boy, Junkrat. The two of them can even stop all but the most well coordinated and comped team pushes on their own in chokepoints, turrets + trap + mine + grenades, and then the chainsaw for anything that survives. I am not even remotely in the pro echelons of play but I can't recall the last time that I played a game where I was seriously stymied by either a Junkrat or a Symmetra. Junkrat at least has the virtue of being able to kill people at a distance rather than having to rely on extremely ponderous orbs or a weapon that puts a non-mobile 200 hp character within easy headshooting range. Possibly one of the saddest things in Overwatch is playing Symmetra, crafting an immaculate chokepoint of death, and then watching as the enemy team simply says "yeah okay gently caress that" and Lucio boosts straight past all that nonsense, right next to "someone picks Winston, gets the Minesweeper achievement."
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Aug 26, 2016 05:45
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Make her turrets deploy instantly and hit multiple targets at once.
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Significantly reduced cooldown on turrets for symmetra and she'd be a lot more powerful. Turrets die constantly to any competent team and having to wait for your 6 turrets to recharge makes her feel completely useless. If she can put up a turret nest right after another is destroyed (like Torbjörn can put up a turret every few seconds) she'd be a lot better
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Aug 26, 2016 05:53
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Her gun sucks. That's it.
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Aug 26, 2016 06:28
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Zikan posted:Replace her weapon with the shock rifle from Unreal Tournament, complete with the shock combo imo
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Aug 26, 2016 06:30
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I'd rather go back to Bastion POTGs then ever see a Mercy POTG again.
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Aug 26, 2016 06:43
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Kerrrrrrr posted:i like his Sparrow skin cause it's got his cute cheeky smirking without the dumb green hair. i don't like the sword on it though. Yeah I got his summer Nihon skin but I think I want Bedouin. I never play ninja sword man but I already have jailbird and koreaVa so...
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Aug 26, 2016 06:48
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Zikan posted:Replace her weapon with the shocker
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Aug 26, 2016 06:51
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Disgusting Coward posted:"If played badly" Nah. I've seen soldiers wandering around flanks dropping health pods when safe and doing incredibly dumb poo poo. Or hanging back behind hanjo firing full auto. Your premise is flawed. Reaper, while an annoying edgelord, is probably one of the best balanced and overall useful heros.
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The best part about Reaper is you can suck complete loving rear end at aiming and be good with him because 90% of being a good Reaper is positioning. He's my go to Offensive character if for some bizarre rear end reason Tanks and Supports get instalocked
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Man I had like 3 hours of games on Quickplay that were so good I just wasn't going to leave until the last dude who was fun also left. Since there really isn't a great way to prefer someone in ps4 other than voting for their cards, well, hope that works. --- Symmetra's alt fire should just teleport someone to some random part of the map when it hits. Bolow posted:The best part about Reaper is you can suck complete loving rear end at aiming and be good with him because 90% of being a good Reaper is positioning. He's my go to Offensive character if for some bizarre rear end reason Tanks and Supports get instalocked He's the only offensive character who I can consistently get more eliminations than I'd get playing D.va or Lucio with. Rick fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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