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Enourmo posted:Jesus do I have to post the loving broken linkage on my umbrella to get this thread back on track? Real men use a discarded highway hole plate as a umbrella.
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literally a fish posted:BMW have a software fix that would save them, at minimum, tens of thousands of dollars in replacement batteries for N63 motors in the US. Probably a lot more, I don't know N63 sales figures but it's at least 3-5 $200+ batteries per car. BMW needs to loving do the software fix simply due to the fact that recycling batteries takes a fair bit more energy than their cars are saving by never charging the loving things.
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Gay Weed Dad posted:Without adding to the fire, would a battery tender be able to resolve this issue? Maybe, if you immediately connected it after shutting the car down. This would probably just confuse the state of charge monitor, though; you know how some modern cars need to be told they've been given a fresh battery? They're constantly monitoring how charged the battery is, and measuring flow out of the battery and into it. Charging it externally means the SoC monitor now potentially thinks the battery is less full than it is, which can cause some weird poo poo to happen. You can also solve the problem, as an owner, by driving around in regular traffic for a small while after long highway cruises, so the engine gets some idle time to recharge the battery. Hop off the interstate a couple exits early or something. Not really what we ought to be talking about in this thread, though. Thanks for the content, Enourmo. Are those hinges not made of steel? I thought it was just really thin steel. EightBit posted:BMW needs to loving do the software fix simply due to the fact that recycling batteries takes a fair bit more energy than their cars are saving by never charging the loving things. 100% agree. It's a dumb and stupid choice, which they're pretty much forced to make. Hopefully once the cars get out of warranty they'll offer the software upgrade to people; otherwise we might get some really cheap N63-engined BMWs from owners who are sick of paying for a new battery every year 
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Enourmo posted:Jesus do I have to post the loving broken linkage on my umbrella to get this thread back on track? Use a raincoat instead.
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Horrible road failures?  
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literally a fish posted:Maybe, if you immediately connected it after shutting the car down. This would probably just confuse the state of charge monitor, though; you know how some modern cars need to be told they've been given a fresh battery? They're constantly monitoring how charged the battery is, and measuring flow out of the battery and into it. Charging it externally means the SoC monitor now potentially thinks the battery is less full than it is, which can cause some weird poo poo to happen. We shouldn't be talking about preventing mechanical failures in a thread about mechanical failures?
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No this thread exists only to point and laugh at people's misfortune.
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literally a fish posted:Not really what we ought to be talking about in this thread, though. Thanks for the content, Enourmo. Are those hinges not made of steel? I thought it was just really thin steel. Mine are definitely plastic, I'd never noticed before. totalnewbie posted:Use a raincoat instead. That'd totally work except I'm usually carrying around a backpack full of books and a laptop bag (which is leather, but that doesn't help much against central Florida downpours). I had to go to 3 different stores a few years back to find one that was't like 2 feet across like my mom's.
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 Not so much of a mechanical as a societal failure, this was actually taken in the parking lot of a 'luxury' apartment complex not too far from me.
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Powershift posted:Horrible road failures? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Holy gently caress that is terrifying.
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Wrar posted:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa For Sale: Unique Studio Apartment Amazing Ocean Views, easy access from road, plenty of parking above apartment. Great fishing spot right outside, perfect swimming location, sheltered from storms. On-site laundry, clothesline. Won't last long!
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Enourmo posted:Mine are definitely plastic, I'd never noticed before. Rain poncho? I mean, it may not be high fashion but they're light, packs down easily (like, into a sandwich bag - but don't leave it wet in there or it'll grow mildew), and easily fits over backpacks.
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Powershift posted:Horrible road failures?  Holy loving poo poo
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In other news, carbon fibre is so loving cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6J-yw8yjA&t=14s
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Powershift posted:Horrible road failures? I don't think you are supposed to park like that. Someone lower down a patrolman to put a ticket on the windshield.
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Gay Weed Dad posted:
Saw this happen to a car in under 30 mins the other day. It was when I went to lunch. When I came back the car was on two pavers. Still there three days later. Someone probably didn't make there rim payments .
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 Horrible mechanical failure: take a boat “that had already exhibited stability problems” and add fourteen tons of lifeboats to the top deck. That boat was the SS Easland, and it capsized, killing 848 people. Clearly, this was the government’s fault for increasing lifeboat requirements from 50% to 75% of passenger capacity. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Good lord what the gently caress is going on in here. NOx is bad. CO is bad. Mkay? that said, I actually wouldn't mind retrofitting a DEF system to my fleet of old diesels... NOx is fuckawful. 4 broken spokes from my supermoto.  
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SouthsideSaint posted:Saw this happen to a car in under 30 mins the other day. It was when I went to lunch. When I came back the car was on two pavers. Still there three days later. Someone probably didn't make there rim payments . Haha do the rim-version-of-aaron's shops repo rims like that? That is awesome. If you can't afford the rim, you probably can't afford to keep rubber on it either. I had to scroll though a lot of pointless cockjabbery on the last page re: autistic hatred of the nhtsa/ntsb/epa, but wasn't there a time in the 70s when new convertible cars were outright illegal in America? I want to say around 1974-77 or so because of that weird revolt people had against GM/Ford selling terrible, dangerous, lovely cars for decades. Maybe no one wanted to sell them because of liability, or am I just making all this up in my head?
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I don't think they were ever actually illegal, there was just a perfect storm of not being economically viable. Crash standards became a thing, and were getting more stringent. Roof crush testing was being proposed. Product liability also became a thing in the wake of Corvairs and Pintos. Convertibles were also simply falling out of fashion. Automakers were unwilling and unable to invest in them anymore. The 1976 Cadillac Eldorado was marketed as the last American convertible, and then no more convertibles were ever built again the end
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Current regulations, of course, are that you have to have 100% passenger capacity in your lifeboats. For some types of voyages I think you have to meet that number with a certain amount of boats out of service, too. I would love to know what the justification was back in the day when 50% was the legal requirement. "Eh, gently caress it, half the people can probably swim?" "Only save the women and children, men all go down with the ship?" "Well, probably half the people will die regardless, so why waste the money?"
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Sagebrush posted:Current regulations, of course, are that you have to have 100% passenger capacity in your lifeboats. For some types of voyages I think you have to meet that number with a certain amount of boats out of service, too. Steerage passengers and deckhands / engine room werent seen as worth saving. Plus shipwrecks were until the 20th century seen as pretty much not a event you planned for anyone to survive, let alone liferafts weren;t seen as being useful in the majority of wrecks so why have more than a guesstimate of potential survivors?
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Sagebrush posted:Current regulations, of course, are that you have to have 100% passenger capacity in your lifeboats. For some types of voyages I think you have to meet that number with a certain amount of boats out of service, too. Probably more of a "Right now there's 0%. These guys are fighting with everything they've got to not have to put lifeboats on. We came to an agreement of 50%." E: Also, I don't think they ever cared about third class passengers so those wouldn't need lifeboats I guess?
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Sagebrush posted:I would love to know what the justification was back in the day when 50% was the legal requirement. "Eh, gently caress it, half the people can probably swim?" "Only save the women and children, men all go down with the ship?" "Well, probably half the people will die regardless, so why waste the money?" “Other ships will always be available to take aboard survivors.  ”
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Well, I mean, imagine it's 1912 and your boat sinks in the middle of the north atlantic during a storm. Say you do make it on a life boat. now what? Who's coming to get you? How much food and water do you have? Also, it's december. hope you were wearing a warm coat and not just a party dress or underwear when you ran for the lifeboats.
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I think the Titanic lifeboats had a box of sea biscuits and some water, though I won't hazard a guess at how long that'd last. And yeah, adding some blankets would have helped a lot - though I don't think anyone that made it into a lifeboat died that time?
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jamal posted:Well, I mean, imagine it's 1912 and your boat sinks in the middle of the north atlantic during a storm. Say you do make it on a life boat. now what? Who's coming to get you? How much food and water do you have? Also, it's december. hope you were wearing a warm coat and not just a party dress or underwear when you ran for the lifeboats. Well since it's 1912, there's a constant stream of merchant and passenger shipping going back and forth nearby, usually within sight of a signal flare and certainly within radio range. I mean, come on, one of the main reasons so many people died on the Titanic was because they didn't have enough lifeboats for everyone. The first ship to come to the rescue arrived within two hours of the sinking. You're not going to die with two hours' exposure to cold night air.
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jamal posted:Well, I mean, imagine it's 1912 and your boat sinks in the middle of the north atlantic during a storm. Say you do make it on a life boat. now what? Who's coming to get you? How much food and water do you have? Also, it's december. hope you were wearing a warm coat and not just a party dress or underwear when you ran for the lifeboats. In 1912, there would have been an SOS and also there's enough shipping traffic that a few hours is all you would need to wait / survive. 15 years previously, that would have been a different story.
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Sagebrush posted:Well since it's 1912, there's a constant stream of merchant and passenger shipping going back and forth nearby, usually within sight of a signal flare and certainly within radio range. And didn't they not bring the proper signaling flares, so people in range didn't know if they really needed rescuing? I know for a fact that the horrible mechanical failure there wasn't the lifeboats, but the lack of real seals between the hull layers and individual sections of the ship, allowing the water to go around the sealed bulkheads. Cost cutting turned what should have just been a blow that impeded the ship's ability to continue crossing the Atlantic under its own power into one of the largest civilian maritime disasters
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Everything we take for granted in safety tech and procedures has their origins in a bunch of deaths. "Yeah, we make them bright orange and not razor sharp now due to that time tons of people died..."
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The Door Frame posted:And didn't they not bring the proper signaling flares, so people in range didn't know if they really needed rescuing? I know for a fact that the horrible mechanical failure there wasn't the lifeboats, but the lack of real seals between the hull layers and individual sections of the ship, allowing the water to go around the sealed bulkheads. Cost cutting turned what should have just been a blow that impeded the ship's ability to continue crossing the Atlantic under its own power into one of the largest civilian maritime disasters Titanic was significantly more advanced than any other commercial liner in service at the time, in terms of safety features, and many, if not all steel ships had similar metallurgy problems. poo poo, the United States was losing Liberty ships thirty years later due to brittle fractures, because the metallurgy still wasn't understood. The causative event wasn't that there was some glaring flaw in her construction, or that some evil gently caress with a monocle specced steel of inferior quality; They ran nearly head-on at cruise speed into a giant loving block of ice. There wasn't a single ship in service that would have survived that accident.
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SouthsideSaint posted:Saw this happen to a car in under 30 mins the other day. It was when I went to lunch. When I came back the car was on two pavers. Still there three days later. Someone probably didn't make there rim payments . Nah, that's just good old-fashioned dope crime around these parts. I don't know if you can make it out but the jack used was just an OEM car jack and the pavement was scared from the car being dropped on the rotors.
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Every ship I sailed on had lifeboat capacity for the whole crew on either of the two boats so a hard list would not be a limiting factor. Modern ships have free fall boats which are terrifying and kill people in training when they fail to use the seatbelts right. https://youtu.be/al94iUnoT38
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MrYenko posted:Titanic was significantly more advanced than any other commercial liner in service at the time, in terms of safety features, and many, if not all steel ships had similar metallurgy problems. poo poo, the United States was losing Liberty ships thirty years later due to brittle fractures, because the metallurgy still wasn't understood. Yeah, poor metallurgy was one of the major contributing factors of the sinking of the Titanic (...iceberg being one of the others ). For example, the steel used in the hull was of very poor quality by modern standards (high inclusions, slag, etc.), which reduced the toughness of the plate. ASM Writeup In addition, wrought iron was used for rivets at the bow and stern and also had high slag content, which could have contributed to rivets failing. Especially when you consider how rivets are formed, slag inclusions will form weak shear planes at the rivet head. NYT Article
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Sagebrush posted:You're not going to die with two hours' exposure to cold night air. You absolutely can die from two hours' exposure if you were dunked into the ice cold north Atlantic first.
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They always warned us back in grade school if you got dropped into the waters of the Turnagain Arm, you would die to exposure in under two minutes. I don't know how the ocean temps in Alaska compare to the north Atlantic but it does illustrate the threat it could be.
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Ugh, Liberty Ships. They banged them out incredibly quickly (42 day construction time, pushing out 3/day), and expected them to last just five years. The same issues were passed to the T2 tankers, made famous by the Fort Mercer and Pendleton disaster right near me in Chatham. Heavy seas plus brittle steel plus welded construction=ships breaking in half. I love the fix for the liberty ships: a giant steel plate "belt" that held the sides together...
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