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Solemn Sloth posted:van badham is actually mentally ill, much like evil Elmo she is evilelmo: https://twitter.com/vanbadham/status/709701028996734976
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Aug 26, 2016 12:30
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The plebiscite is dumb. But the problem is that it's also an issue that helps to deflect attention, and as a continuing thing, that's very useful for the Coalition. OTOH, the longer it goes on, the worse it will be when trying to negotiate on anything else in the Senate.
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Aug 26, 2016 12:32
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It's not just dumb. It's actively harmful. This isn't a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water when you didn't get exactly what you wanted, or of trying to strong arm Turnbull into a parliamentary vote because you block the plebiscite. The plebiscite will actively hurt a lot of people in this country and it should be opposed even if it means there isn't action on equal marriage in this term of parliament.
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Aug 26, 2016 12:46
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Aug 26, 2016 13:09
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Solemn Sloth posted:van badham is actually mentally ill, much like evil Elmo We mentally ill people have enough poo poo and stigma to deal with without being compared to Van Badham.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:10
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Pickled Tink posted:We mentally ill people have enough poo poo and stigma to deal with without being compared to Van Badham. took me a moment but 
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Aug 26, 2016 13:12
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Pickled Tink posted:Oh for fucks sake knock this poo poo off. Stop equating "Has bad opinions and is a raging arsehole" with mental illness. If you stopped posting first dog i might have some sympathy
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Aug 26, 2016 13:12
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Solemn Sloth posted:It's not just dumb. It's actively harmful. This isn't a case of throwing the baby out with the bath water when you didn't get exactly what you wanted, or of trying to strong arm Turnbull into a parliamentary vote because you block the plebiscite. The plebiscite will actively hurt a lot of people in this country and it should be opposed even if it means there isn't action on equal marriage in this term of parliament. Yeah but did they ask what straight white christian males thought before making the decision to block it??
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Aug 26, 2016 13:13
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Solemn Sloth posted:If you stopped posting first dog i might have some sympathy +1
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Aug 26, 2016 13:15
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I assume this is misunderstood. Right?
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Aug 26, 2016 13:15
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This may seem like concern trolling so I'll preface it by saying the plebiscite is bad and should be blocked Is there any way "we would have let the AUSTRALIAN PEOPLE decide on gay marriage but bleeding heart lefties blocked it, so you have only yourselves to blame when we continue to marginalise gay people  " will not become a talking point which the liberals will harp on for 10 years and van badham types will seize upon to attack anybody vaguely leftist who has the audacity to criticise the labor party?
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Aug 26, 2016 13:29
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:This may seem like concern trolling so I'll preface it by saying the plebiscite is bad and should be blocked Nah, it's a pretty obvious line of attack if you can't feel empathy or think through the consequences of your actions.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:38
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:This may seem like concern trolling so I'll preface it by saying the plebiscite is bad and should be blocked It doesn't have much in the way of legs though because literally the second that leaves your mouth Labor/Greens/an independant introduces a gay marriage bill into parliament and then they vote against it pretty much nullifying the point.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:43
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Nah, it's a pretty obvious line of attack if you can't feel empathy or think through the consequences of your actions. So, in short, we're doomed.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:52
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hooman posted:It doesn't have much in the way of legs though because literally the second that leaves your mouth Labor/Greens/an independant introduces a gay marriage bill into parliament and then they vote against it pretty much nullifying the point. That actually doesn't matter as long as their base believes it and gets reinforcement from most of the media in the country as it's already doing. We already know it's a bad faith act but like Whinnett says, Turnbull has no choice but to put it up, this is preparing the ground for the failure and a way to keep the issue going somehow.
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Aug 26, 2016 13:58
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hooman posted:It doesn't have much in the way of legs though because literally the second that leaves your mouth Labor/Greens/an independant introduces a gay marriage bill into parliament and then they vote against it pretty much nullifying the point. "Why are you voting to deny gay people equal rights" "I have nothing against homosexuals [even though I have repeatedly stated in the past they are moral degenerates], and i would have respected the will of the australian people if they had voted on it [even though i insinuated i would just vote according to the vote of my staunchly conservative electorate], but since the greens stopped the australian people from having a say I can only vote based on my own conscience "thus not alienating their voter base but without saying overtly hateful things I just don't see a good outcome here which doesn't confuse and poison the issue for years. Support for gay marriage is as close to an obvious no brainer issue as exists in modern western politics so injecting any confusion into the debate is only going to help its opponents. Not that I think holding a plebiscite would improve this. ModernMajorGeneral fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Aug 26, 2016 14:44
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ewe2 posted:That actually doesn't matter as long as their base believes it and gets reinforcement from most of the media in the country as it's already doing. We already know it's a bad faith act but like Whinnett says, Turnbull has no choice but to put it up, this is preparing the ground for the failure and a way to keep the issue going somehow. otoh basing your policy on what the support base of the liberal party likes is not grounds for success or good policy no matter how many young labor stooges scream otherwise
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Aug 26, 2016 14:45
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:"Why are you voting to deny gay people equal rights" The good outcome is not having a publicly funded organised campaign of homophobia like Ireland had to go through
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Aug 26, 2016 14:47
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https://twitter.com/vanbadham/status/530600668860407808 lol
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Aug 26, 2016 14:51
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ewe2 posted:Lmao at the Hun today, Political Editor Ellen Whinnett desperately trying to have a bet each way, basically telling the ALP and the Greens that no plebiscite will be their fault because the law won't be changed but she thinks it should have been changed years ago but those ALP and Greens are SO POLITICALLY MOTIVATED and they should just go along with the Government because stuff. And Bill Shorten changed his mind, shock horror. It's the wackiest piece of self-justification I've ever read from her and that's saying something. It's also a shame she's going off to London because there'll be nothing relatively sane to balance out Tom Elliot. The LNP just wants to shift the focus to budget repair, that's why they need to commission this $160,000,000 non-binding opinion poll.
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Aug 26, 2016 15:22
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Can you post these tweets for those of us banned by bad hamvan?
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Aug 26, 2016 15:28
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iajanus posted:Can you post these tweets for those of us banned by bad hamvan? Done.  I'm somehow not blocked by her, but am blocked by Bernard Keane. Which sucks because I don't mind his opinion when he's not being a fuckwit.
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Aug 26, 2016 23:38
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So there's a rally against the refugee detention centres in Brisbane today at 11am, I'd like the event but Facebook has decided to poo poo itself.
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Aug 27, 2016 00:06
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From the SMH today No One Cares about Mequote:At the crack of dawn on Tuesday, a tired and emotional Helen Ren - a 7-Eleven franchisee - will meet a group of executives from the convenience store group's head office to hand back the keys to her store. So we start with a sob story about how a 7-11 Franchise is being kicked out by corporate, is not receiving the money she should and and is being made to feel like a criminal. And then they say "Oh, she was cheating her staff out of their legally-allowed wages, but other people did it worse". 
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Aug 27, 2016 00:19
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I'd like someone to suck my dick because I made the dumb choice to become a franchisee.
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Aug 27, 2016 00:44
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There's an Iga 5m walk down commercial, a Coles express (or whatever petrol-shop hybrid) 2m walk away and closer to the corner, and a big Woolworths and Coles and the Prahran Market 10m walk up commercial, and she's on loving punt Rd. And she stooged her employees. A Bloo Bloo bloo, I make poor decisions.
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Aug 27, 2016 01:03
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Starshark posted:I'd like someone to suck my dick because I made the dumb choice to become a franchisee. Yeah, but you can't tell me that the Franchisor, i.e. 7-Eleven Corporate, gave her all the facts and figures and said "Of course our franchisees legally pay their staff, we have no idea how they stay profitable on these figures!". The complicity would go all the way to the top. Burn every 7-Eleven to the ground, salt the earth, burn the salt.
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Aug 27, 2016 01:45
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Yeah, but you can't tell me that the Franchisor, i.e. 7-Eleven Corporate, gave her all the facts and figures and said "Of course our franchisees legally pay their staff, we have no idea how they stay profitable on these figures!". The complicity would go all the way to the top. I've only ever seen franchisees get hosed over by the head corporations. To me signing on as one at this point is like signing on to a pyramid scheme for brain water and then bitching later that you weren't given all the facts.
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Aug 27, 2016 02:00
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Melbourne's rally for refugees has updated the speakers list for the 1pm rally at the Vic state library: Speakers include: Adam Bandt Greens MP for Melbourne Pamela Curr - Asylum Seeker Resource Centre Jane Willey, ex-teacher on Nauru and author of some of the leaked Nauru files Mohammad Salamat - Ahwazi refugee who spent time detained on Nauru in 2012 Aran Mylvaganam - Tamil refugee and union organiser *Close the camps and bring the refugees here *Permanent protection not Temporary visas *End Islamophobic scapegoating *Boat rescues not boat turnbacks
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Aug 27, 2016 02:10
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Becoming a franchisee is essentially paying a lot of money to be a manager. You have little control over anything and about the only area you can save money is on wages so it either means stiffing people or working 100 hour weeks yourself.
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Aug 27, 2016 03:57
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evilbastard posted:From the SMH today No One Cares about Me I thought "tired and emotional" was journalist-code for "drunk".
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Aug 27, 2016 04:40
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Redcordial posted:Melbourne's rally for refugees has updated the speakers list for the 1pm rally at the Vic state library: We had the whistleblower psychologist in Brisbane. I have some pictures I'll upload soon™
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Aug 27, 2016 04:56
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Latest bit of doggerel from the government of delusion. "sensible centre" This is apparently what voting for a "budget repair" austerity regime is and is the LNP's position on the political spectrum. If the LNP is in the centre who exactly is to their right apart from literal Nazi's? 
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Yeah, but you can't tell me that the Franchisor, i.e. 7-Eleven Corporate, gave her all the facts and figures and said "Of course our franchisees legally pay their staff, we have no idea how they stay profitable on these figures!". The complicity would go all the way to the top. before burning every 7-eleven to the ground i suggest we loot them of their supplies of iced coffee and the slurpee machines then redistribute them to the deserving (me)
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Cartoon posted:Latest bit of doggerel from the government of delusion. "sensible centre" This is apparently what voting for a "budget repair" austerity regime is and is the LNP's position on the political spectrum. If the LNP is in the centre who exactly is to their right apart from literal Nazi's? The irony being that the literal Nazis are actually to the left of them on a lot of issues and closer to any Australian center than the libs are. Just slightly more unhinged and worse at hiding their racism.
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Aug 27, 2016 06:16
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Solemn Sloth posted:otoh basing your policy on what the support base of the liberal party likes is not grounds for success or good policy no matter how many young labor stooges scream otherwise Absolutely not. But it tells you so much about how the political class think and act. It's why the Senate result in the last election is such a disaster for the major parties, and if the trend continues in the Reps, we could see some actual representative democracy happen albeit via whackjob minor parties. Digiwizzard posted:The LNP just wants to shift the focus to budget repair, that's why they need to commission this $160,000,000 non-binding opinion poll. That's very obvious. Unfortunately, Scott Morrison is Treasurer.
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Aug 27, 2016 06:38
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One day when I'm no longer under an NDA and social media policy, I can talk about the figures I've seen for 7/11 franchisees. Suffice it to say, their labour costs are extremely interesting
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Recoome posted:We had the whistleblower psychologist in Brisbane. I have some pictures I'll upload soon™ Jane Willey was great, an ex teacher from Nauru, she shared some stories and described the brutality of our regime on the children. The normalisation of worthlessness and hopelessness is loving horrible, and I wouldn't want that for criminals let alone children, women and men guilty of no crime. I was with an MP from the Greens for the majority of the rally, and she had a cameraman filming her constantly for a couple of projects the Greens and other organisations are working on. I'll be able to show off my freakish self once these videos come to fruition. E: During the speech from Jane Willey I couldn't help but tear up, and some photos were taken of me with tears streaming down my face. I'm gonna look so drat hot. Redcordial fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Aug 27, 2016 |
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