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OAquinas posted:Thing is, they got a ton of support, even got some of those fancy militias that use skulls and guns for logos to come out. The Bundys were unwilling to give up control and share the spotlight, though, so most of them left (and any members that stayed ran like hell after the traffic stop). Yeah this was an interesting thing about the Occupation, more than one large militia group came out and Ammon wasn't even willing to let these guys be like lieutenants or run their own people. This whole thing was about Ammon's inflated ego.
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That's not quite accurate. Santilli went into panic mode after the traffic stop, and basically livestreamed his rear end trying to figure out what's going on. He went back to the refuge to try and talk down one of the more crazy leaders left who wasn't answering his phone anymore (and who had bugged out by this point) and get any remaining kids out of there. So kudos for him for not being an absolute shitlord in that regard. Of course, he runs into the police blockade of the refuge, tries to play the "first amendment/innocent reporter" card, and gets arrested due to his totally not being a reporter about this and Bunkerville.
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Mirthless posted:Yeah, they can (and will) remove disruptive people from the courtroom if it happens during the trial, and they can be assigned (yes, assigned) jailtime and fines if the judge feels it's appropriate. Likewise when they ignore the rulings of the court. Considering the level of authority the judge has on this, contempt of court is a supremely dumb thing to gently caress with Not really sure what threats of fines/jail time are going to do to folks who either know deep down that they're never getting out, or are convinced those threats are meaningless because the justice system is an illusion Suppose they could be forced to watch their own trials via livestream from their cells, that'd be fun
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Alkydere posted:Basically what I was saying was that these guys really were in LARP territory, they just didn't know it/admit it to themselves. Wrapped in a coddling blanket of white privilege, they never really had someone come down on them and force them real harm. Suddenly their leader is dead and they realize that the authorities really aren't on their side but also these guys have armored cars, snipers, drone support (mostly in the form of cameras but these hicks were probably thinking airstrikes) etc. and are playing for keeps. Yeah. These guys spent their lives wrapped up in mythology that made them think they were invincible, heroic freedom warriors until they believed it. They never faced any adversity and were insulated from the consequences of their actions thanks to their skin color and money. They were riding high when they took over an empty bird sanctuary, but completely fell apart when an actual challenge came because they couldn't comprehend such a thing. They were overgrown children playing pretend who finally got to see what happens when they anger the grown-ups too much.
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Trial logistics: https://www.scribd.com/document/322196743/Court-Specifics-re-Bundy-trial I wish we could get a livestream but it seems like that won't happen.
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ansel autisms posted:Trial logistics: https://www.scribd.com/document/322196743/Court-Specifics-re-Bundy-trial Courtroom 13A will be available to the public, including media representatives, for observation of all trial proceedings via live audio and video feed. They had to limit the amount of people who can actually sit in the trial courtroom because they expanded the jury box and the area for attorneys and defendants, but there will be live audio and video in another courtroom and I have no doubt that there will be some sort of internet stream. Even if they don't rebroadcast the exact video, we'll have at worst a running twitter of everything that happens. Edit: Upon further reading they'll confiscate electronic devices including smartwatches from observers in both court rooms, so we'll just get a swarm of updates every break. Additionally, observers in the second court room can come and go freely. If there's anything breaking, someone will step out and tweet it. Mr. Nice! has issued a correction as of 17:55 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Mirthless posted:Yeah this was an interesting thing about the Occupation, more than one large militia group came out and Ammon wasn't even willing to let these guys be like lieutenants or run their own people. This whole thing was about Ammon's inflated ego. I remember reading about the split right after Bundy Ranch on JJ's Twitter. They couldn't even keep it together after that, why would they keep it together when it "mattered"?
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How would you even discreetly record something with a smartwatch? Holding your fist up makes you look like you're stuck mid fist-pump. Actually holding the watch with your fingers makes it more obvious. I guess you'd have to pretend to pick your nose for two hours, but you could do that with a spy watch too.
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cumshitter posted:How would you even discreetly record something with a smartwatch? Holding your fist up makes you look like you're stuck mid fist-pump. Actually holding the watch with your fingers makes it more obvious. I guess you'd have to pretend to pick your nose for two hours, but you could do that with a spy watch too. I'm pretty sure there are apps for both android and apple watches that can record sound.
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cumshitter posted:How would you even discreetly record something with a smartwatch? Holding your fist up makes you look like you're stuck mid fist-pump. Actually holding the watch with your fingers makes it more obvious. I guess you'd have to pretend to pick your nose for two hours, but you could do that with a spy watch too. Lean forward, elbow on the chair on front of you and chin leaning on your raised hand.
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Mors Rattus posted:Lean forward, elbow on the chair on front of you and chin leaning on your raised hand. Sorta like this 
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Tayter Swift posted:Not really sure what threats of fines/jail time are going to do to folks who either know deep down that they're never getting out Reminds me of this, in which an inmate who was pretty much guaranteed to die in prison already for a prior conviction was accused of murdering another inmate and appeared in court for a preliminary hearing. Snippet of court transcript posted:Durham: I’m finding you in contempt of court.
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Geoj posted:Reminds me of this, in which an inmate who was pretty much guaranteed to die in prison already for a prior conviction was accused of murdering another inmate and appeared in court for a preliminary hearing.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:09
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If that's the Rick & Morty video based on the transcript it's worth the 10 minutes...
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OAquinas posted:He went back to the refuge to try and talk down one of the more crazy leaders left who wasn't answering his phone anymore (and who had bugged out by this point) and get any remaining kids out of there. Considering that a good portion of this poo poo was because of him, this is what I see as rear end covering. He realized that this poo poo could explode and he had a big role in why. so now it's time to backpedal and try to get everyone to run away rather than follow the very rhetoric he'd been spewing, very very loudly, since the get go
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Awwwww. I didnt know that guy from the breakfast club in real life, was already a lifer. Now its just the judge being exasperated and ineffectual. Lame.
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SocketWrench posted:Considering that a good portion of this poo poo was because of him, this is what I see as rear end covering. He realized that this poo poo could explode and he had a big role in why. so now it's time to backpedal and try to get everyone to run away rather than follow the very rhetoric he'd been spewing, very very loudly, since the get go Probably a good chunk of that, yeah. Only it was way, way too late for that. The 150-vehicle FBI convoy was coming.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:09
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I want Rick and Morty to do this trial like they did the Georgia one
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Alan Smithee posted:We'lol probably have to settle for squid bullies This would also be acceptable.
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Mors Rattus posted:I think my favorites were the literal weekend warriors. 'We're here to support you but we have to be out of here by nine, I got work in the morning and can't miss it and my wife's gotta take the kids to soccer.' My favorite was the " I'd be there with you to fight the Federal Government but my Disability check was late and I can't afford the gas" guy.
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Your Gay Uncle posted:My favorite was the " I'd be there with you to fight the Federal Government but my Disability check was late and I can't afford the gas" guy. Seems to be a common theme. Ammon took out a federal loan before this started. A few there that I know of were getting government kickbacks because they raised foster kids.
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Here's a better version of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vN_PEmeKb0
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Evil Fluffy posted:Here's a better version of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkFaIxpbHvM
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Alan Smithee posted:We'lol probably have to settle for squid bullies any individual bundy loving wishes they were half the badass early cuyler is
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I don't know, I think the black and white adds a "courtroom reporter sketch from 100 years ago" quality that made me subconsciously think of Inherit the Wind for some reason which made it way funnier This then made me imagine Spencer Tracy saying these things which is even better 
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OAquinas posted:Of course, he runs into the police blockade of the refuge, tries to play the "first amendment/innocent reporter" card, and gets arrested due to his totally not being a reporter about this and Bunkerville. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KeeIW5eMM It's the best video out of the whole drat refuge saga. David Fry was crazy and sad, the Finnicum shooting was... well, a man getting shot, but this is just pure loving schadenfreude aimed at one of the biggest sacks of poo poo out there.
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Yeah I guess you could lean forward and record video with the watch but I still maintain that picking your nose gives your wrist the freedom of movement needed to capture tracking shots, dramatic zooms, etc. Just say you're there to support Ammon and the bailiffs won't question a day long digit dive for gold.
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Murderion posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KeeIW5eMM One day I'll learn not to scroll down on youtube....those loving sovcit comments...uhg
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does anybody else keep parsing sovcit as soviet
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:does anybody else keep parsing sovcit as soviet It's usually what my phone's autocorrect tries to replace it with.
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:does anybody else keep parsing sovcit as soviet Considering how much they fetishize Putin...
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SocketWrench posted:One day I'll learn not to scroll down on youtube....those loving sovcit comments...uhg They're wonderfully delusional.
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/770031344554483712 This is going to be good. Though if she succeeds gently caress everything forever.
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It'll be funny asking her or anybody sympathetic to this suit how they feel about the families of slain black youths suing their local PD
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iospace posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/770031344554483712 That one guy that hid the fact that he had shot at the car might be enough to gently caress this up in her favor
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:That one guy that hid the fact that he had shot at the car might be enough to gently caress this up in her favor Is there any theory on why he covered that up? I don't see how firing at that point wasn't justified.
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