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Math You
Oct 27, 2010

So put your faith
in more than steel
So what is the deal with blizzard?

Whenever I gym with my lapras, blizzard has absolutely no immediate effect. Sometimes it will take as long as 15 seconds and 2 blizzards and then the enemy implodes..

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Math You posted:

So what is the deal with blizzard?

Whenever I gym with my lapras, blizzard has absolutely no immediate effect. Sometimes it will take as long as 15 seconds and 2 blizzards and then the enemy implodes..

Yeah, I find if it "finishes" them it should be immediate, otherwise gotta wait

something
Aug 1, 2011

Have you ever seen
The most pure look of delight
On a Babby's face?

Pillbug

Sebadoh Gigante posted:

Was this before or after you threw your phone against a wall?

First gyara was actually bite/hydro pump, so I went in knowing i can't honestly get all that mad. Also, right after this i got a WAN HUNDRED PERCENT 182 cp magikarp for gyara #3. If *this* guy gets twister, then i'll be doing some phone chucking.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Remember when they said pogo beat out porn for searches? What exactly were they using to check metric?

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

something posted:

First gyara was actually bite/hydro pump, so I went in knowing i can't honestly get all that mad. Also, right after this i got a WAN HUNDRED PERCENT 182 cp magikarp for gyara #3. If *this* guy gets twister, then i'll be doing some phone chucking.

Grinding it into candy is just the silliest thing though, because you could have used it to defend gyms, and even if it was useless now, it could get better with the next patch, or you could have traded it for something you didn't have, and at any rate, you basically traded 400 candies for one when you did that.

weirdly chilly pussy
Oct 6, 2007

Twister's not even bad for a gym defender gyarados. It's really hard to dodge and really spammable.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
It also does so little damage it might as well be bite

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
So, while I am still upset over not being able to hatch eggs on my bike (even riding slow the .8K I gained while walking to work was down to .1K) being able to take over three gyms in less than 30 minutes and collect on them is p.great

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
drat it, hatched an Ekans.

Oh poo poo, it's 15/15/14

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Dr Tran posted:

drat it, hatched an Ekans.

Oh poo poo, it's 15/15/14

:mediocre:

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
For the others who were able to go 142/142. How long did the last ten take? What was the worst one?

I have 7 to go and only one of them looks like it will get done quickly.

Hitmonlee & Lapras I just need to be in the right place at the right time. It's not like I will ever get a 10k egg again.
Machoke should be done in a few days.
Charmander will happen, just slowly.
Grimer, Omanyte and Seel...who the gently caress knows. I've seen 5 total between the 3 and need 13 of each to evolve.

I guess I could get lucky finding evolved versions.

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack

Waltzing Along posted:

For the others who were able to go 142/142. How long did the last ten take? What was the worst one?

I have 7 to go and only one of them looks like it will get done quickly.

Hitmonlee & Lapras I just need to be in the right place at the right time. It's not like I will ever get a 10k egg again.
Machoke should be done in a few days.
Charmander will happen, just slowly.
Grimer, Omanyte and Seel...who the gently caress knows. I've seen 5 total between the 3 and need 13 of each to evolve.

I guess I could get lucky finding evolved versions.

It always throws me how different areas are bone-dry of certain pokes. Seel is pretty common near me, and I've caught both Grimer and Lapras randomly around town.

Never seen a Cubone though. And those are supposed to be really common. (But I have a Marowak caught in the wild :psyduck:)

Also, I have cauight Dragonair and Dragonite in the wild but never seen a Dratini.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!
Muk and Weezing seem to be the hardest. Neither Grimer or Koffing have consistent spawn points.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Waltzing Along posted:

For the others who were able to go 142/142. How long did the last ten take? What was the worst one?

I have 7 to go and only one of them looks like it will get done quickly.

Hitmonlee & Lapras I just need to be in the right place at the right time. It's not like I will ever get a 10k egg again.
Machoke should be done in a few days.
Charmander will happen, just slowly.
Grimer, Omanyte and Seel...who the gently caress knows. I've seen 5 total between the 3 and need 13 of each to evolve.

I guess I could get lucky finding evolved versions.

1. Are you using scanner apps?
2. Does your area have a reddit/facebook/discord for pokemon? If so, ask about nearby nests.
3. Are you using as many incubators as you can? Every 2nd or 3rd day you should be able to get one from cashing in on gyms. Just make sure you never use a limited-use incubator on a 2k.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

Dr Tran posted:

Muk and Weezing seem to be the hardest. Neither Grimer or Koffing have consistent spawn points.

I don't know. Koffing spawns consistently on a particular street corner in the village where my parents live, even though the village only has 2 stops and mostly just trash spawning there.

foutre
Sep 4, 2011

:toot: RIP ZEEZ :toot:

Dr Tran posted:

Muk and Weezing seem to be the hardest. Neither Grimer or Koffing have consistent spawn points.

There are actually 3 consistent koffing spawns within like 3 or 4 blocks of my apartment, but I've only seen one wild grimer.

At level 30, I've never seen a dragonite or lapras, and have only seen one each of omanyte, kabuto, hitmonlee, lickitung, dratini, and Pikachu.

I had also only seen one each of seel, slowbro and drowzee before visiting the Midwest for a week and getting a bunch of them.

Of the 12 I have left, blastoise, charizard and raichu are just going to take a long time. Omastar and kabutops just seem impossible, and hitmonchan is just going to entail getting very lucky.

There's one place that sometimes has geodudes and machops, but it'll mostly entail just a ton of grinding.

I live in a pretty big city, but at this point I've pretty much stopped finding new pokemon, which kind of sucks. Doesn't really feel like there's much left to do at this point, unless I travel more. Hopefully gym battling becomes more of a thing, I still like walking around and exploring either way but it seems like that is kind of strictly worse, in terms of progression etc., than just walking between 5 lures.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog
I'm very curious how new generations are going to be added. Hopefully they just appear in the game one day. Worst case scenario you have to buy the Johto Pokedex Module for 500 funbucks or something.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly
There are much worse alternatives than that. Special Johto Incense, Johto specific pokeballs, Johto eggs that require a Johto incubator. No matter what they do, I'm sure there's going to be some revenue stream.

You can could always continue to play for free if you stick to the basic 1st gen, but those Johto mons will always be on top of gyms taunting you.

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

Broseph Brostar posted:

There are much worse alternatives than that. Special Johto Incense, Johto specific pokeballs, Johto eggs that require a Johto incubator

"Remember kids; Johto Pokemon will only spawn when the AR is pointed at mom's credit card! Make sure you throw balls at the 3-digit number on the back too, for maximum catch bonus!!"

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

LumpyGumby posted:

Also, how is everyone finding all these Blastoises, Charizards and Dragonites? I'm level 25 and the highest evolved mon I've found has been is an Electrode.

I live pretty close to a Charmander nest so I go on the weekend to catch a few. Not to mention my town in general pops a few Charmanders here and there so I already got enough for a Charizard by level 23 or so. I was lucky I hatched one from an egg too so it actually had attack IVs above 0.

Neeksy posted:

Are pgnexus and pogobag still okay to use or is the ban threat just as high as using a tracker?

I haven't heard of anyone being banned for those yet. I hope Niantic continues to let it slide since it's not helping us find Pokemon or moving our GPS around. It's so useful to see all of your Pokemon's stats in one screen than asking for individual appraisals. Not to mention those appraisals can be very misleading when you have really good IVs on one stat but have 0 on another.

For instance on the infamously low or non-existent starter Pokemon attack IVs, you can get a Charmander that's 0/11/15 appraised and they'll tell you "It's best quality is its HP" and "Its stats are the best I've ever seen!" from the one 15 and tell you nothing about the lovely attack. Your only clue is "Your Charmander has room for improvement" but you won't know if it's the attack or defense that sucks.

Anyway yeah I'm being biased because I use pgnexus and hope they don't come down on that. Or at the very least crack down on the website if they really hate it instead of banning people for using it.

Eyochigan
Dec 13, 2006

It's not rape unless I explicitly see it!
So capture rates. Everything basically looks equal. I use great or ultra balls on squirtles, abras, machops, eevees, and most high level stuff(even pidgey, its still 4 candy). The stuff that flees from me is usually high level, looking at the data it seems like a fair deal but the 10% that flees is what you're raging at every day.

Squirtle 18/20 90%
Caterpie 66/71 92.9%
Weedle 45/48 93.7%
Pidgey 514/571 90%
Rattata 508/583 87%
Spearow 263/280 93.9%
Zubat 246/277 88.8%
Psyduck 64/66 96.9%
Poliwag 53/64 92.2%
Abra 30/38 78.9%
Machop 35/36 97.2%
Tentacool 21/25 84%
Slowpoke 36/39 92.3%
Seel 21/21 100%
Shellder 59/64 92.2%
Gastly 126/143 88.8%
Drowzee 743/794 93.6%
Krabby 117/124 94.3%
Horsea 46/50 92%
Goldeen 45/51 86.2%
Staryu 65/66 98.5%
Jynx 71/96 74% (Actually I ran away from most of these)
Tauros 25/33 75.8% (Also ran from a few of these)
Magikarp 113/116 97.4%
Eevee 18/18 100%

edit: Does anyone else feel like pokemon have a capture health bar, and throwing different balls/accuracy/curves takes a different amount off? I ask this because I never seem to catch on a first throw excellent, but the second nice miss will sometimes be enough to do it. I also have things commonly break out of the first throw third shake of an ultra ball, and almost always run away after it.

Eyochigan fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Aug 27, 2016

Eyochigan
Dec 13, 2006

It's not rape unless I explicitly see it!
silph road, types of nests. frequent spawn area (the forks), frequent spawn point (the blastoise at the end of your block), cluster spawn (multiple spawns in one spot)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hgg4unK_4g

2MB
Feb 3, 2009

"No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you."
100% Poliwag with max HP/Defense, spend about a month getting enough candies to evolve it all the way...

Mud Shot/Submission

But yea these are some great game mechanics really

GoGoGadgetChris
Mar 18, 2010

i powder a
granite monument
in a soundless flash

showering the grass
with molten drops of
its gold inlay

sending smoking
chips of stone
skipping into the fog

2MB posted:

100% Poliwag with max HP/Defense, spend about a month getting enough candies to evolve it all the way...

Mud Shot/Submission

But yea these are some great game mechanics really

I get that they can't just borrow the Pokemon game mechanics entirely, but how is there not some form of "change your moves" system! It's a staple of the game! Let me funnel a bunch of candy and stardust in there and change my moves, dammit.

DrOgreface
Jun 22, 2013

His Evil Never Sleeps

2MB posted:

100% Poliwag with max HP/Defense, spend about a month getting enough candies to evolve it all the way...

Mud Shot/Submission

But yea these are some great game mechanics really

I got mud shot/sub on mine too. Plus bad moves on a Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Vileplume, Victreebel... It was a bad day.

2MB
Feb 3, 2009

"No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you."

DrOgreface posted:

I got mud shot/sub on mine too. Plus bad moves on a Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Vileplume, Victreebel... It was a bad day.

They better have some sort of TM system in the works because this sort of thing is going to prune their player base when people are playing with exponential degrees of chance to get a single pokemon that they actually want.

glyph
Apr 6, 2006



Buffis posted:

Please, 420 should obviously be Weedle.

late on this, but...

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

2MB posted:

100% Poliwag with max HP/Defense, spend about a month getting enough candies to evolve it all the way...

Mud Shot/Submission

But yea these are some great game mechanics really

I had one end up with those moves too, but its p decent for fighting snorlaxes

2MB
Feb 3, 2009

"No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you."

Broseph Brostar posted:

I had one end up with those moves too, but its p decent for fighting snorlaxes

That's the thing. I didn't spend a month trying to get something decent for fighting Snorlaxes. I already beefed up a Primape to suitable levels because Mankey is common around me. I spent a month trying to get a solid defense pokemon because I'm not lucky enough to stumble upon Snorlax and Lapras spawns; so I work with what the game gives me. It's not fun in the slightest to have the game decide where your effort goes at random. I'm sure it's an idea that Niantic is tossing around, among many other things the playerbase is clamoring for, it's just frustrating that we're sort of wasting our time in the interim.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014



Unfortunately the game was in the middle of one of its crash-every-5-minutes sprees, so I had to force quit before I could capture tiny drowsie.

Heteroy
Mar 13, 2004

:fork::fork::fork:
Yam Slacker
Drowzee seems super common everywhere else in the thread. I think I've seen two ever, but I did catch a random Hypno.
Also, I wonder if that many people are GPS hacking, or people get them from eggs, or what, I've never seen a charmander/meleon/izard anywhere, but there are a lot stationed at gyms around town.

I do get a shot at randomly spawning Blastoises from my apartment, though.

Also, is :psyduck: one of the pokemon that tends towards having weak IV's when caught in the wild? I've caught tons and tons but never seen one with decent stats.

Sprite Based
Nov 13, 2004

dance dance sasquatch

Heteroy posted:

Also, is :psyduck: one of the pokemon that tends towards having weak IV's when caught in the wild? I've caught tons and tons but never seen one with decent stats.

I'm up to my ears in Psyducks, and yeah, they pretty much seem to top out at around 66% IVs. I've only ever seen any at 80%+ when hatched from eggs.

Entropist
Dec 1, 2007
I'm very stupid.

Heteroy posted:

Also, is :psyduck: one of the pokemon that tends towards having weak IV's when caught in the wild? I've caught tons and tons but never seen one with decent stats.
I've seen 218 of them around here (more than my Weedle count) so I caught a lot and I don't think I ever saw one with over 60% IVs or so. The best appraisals I get are "above average" and by far most are in the lowest tier.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



2MB posted:

That's the thing. I didn't spend a month trying to get something decent for fighting Snorlaxes. I already beefed up a Primape to suitable levels because Mankey is common around me. I spent a month trying to get a solid defense pokemon because I'm not lucky enough to stumble upon Snorlax and Lapras spawns; so I work with what the game gives me. It's not fun in the slightest to have the game decide where your effort goes at random. I'm sure it's an idea that Niantic is tossing around, among many other things the playerbase is clamoring for, it's just frustrating that we're sort of wasting our time in the interim.

FWIW, Poliwrath with that moveset is still better than Primeape with best moveset against Snorlax!

Colonel Squish
Feb 18, 2012


Have mine. I'll never have the stardust to power it up.

Meanwhile, none of these have Zen Headbutt/Solar Beam. Er, actually that 40cp one does.

2MB
Feb 3, 2009

"No need to speak. Your fists told me everything I need to know about you."

BrianBoitano posted:

FWIW, Poliwrath with that moveset is still better than Primeape with best moveset against Snorlax!

I actually don't know how to feel about that.

Eyochigan
Dec 13, 2006

It's not rape unless I explicitly see it!
New theory about lures, apparently the position of where the lure was used may determine what spawns, by what biome they were standing in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4zux6x/spawns_from_lures_depends_on_activating_position/

I've seen results that seem to reflect this. There's a pokestop in the middle of a pavillion but the most common place for people to sit near it is around a fountain. I see magikarp all day at that one.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
It's crazy how different locations can have different sets of Pokemon. In my area of PA it's almost all grass Pokemon, Exxecutes and Bulbasaurs are decently common,but you just don't see fire or electric. There is a Tauros nest near my work though, so I see them every once and a while.

I'm on vacation (beach in Delaware), there are a ton of poke stops downtown that had lures on them. I caught:

20 each of Magnemites and Voltorbs
Jynx
Aerodactyl
2 Ponytas and a Rapidash (holy hell they are hard to hit with a throw)
Rhyhorn
3-4 charmanders
2 Pikachus
Omanyte
And a bunch of other water Pokemon.


Question: what is the best electric Pokemon? I still have a bit to go on getting enough candies to evolve some of my grass Pokemon, if I can get a solid electric one while I'm here to help at gym battles, that would be great. The loving Voltorb and Magnemites I evolved had awful 30 special attacks.

zeldadude
Nov 24, 2004

OH SNAP!
nothing quite like the hilarity/excitement of witnessing a stampede for a charizard, only to have it run away after it breaks out of one loving ultra ball. I've never even seen a charmander and the closest nest I know of is in NYC, so a good 4-5 hour drive. :smithicide:

That stampede was loving hilarious though, especially seeing a lady pushing a stroller just straight up TAKE OFF stroller and all when the herd started running.

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theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Alan Smithee posted:

according to theflyingexecutive you are already banned for thought crime

Batch IV checking isn't really cheating, since you can do it manually. :shrug: You're out of your mind if you think Niantic isn't considering a wave of bans for it tho

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