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Lmao I was out drinking with friends yesterday and a guy came up to us and started talking the whole nice guy talk (a tinder date apparently never showed up, which is apparently not at all just normal flaky behaviour, no its a societal conspiracy that only happens to him). We told him to relax and that he looks fine (he was attractive in a cute way) but he just kept on talking about how women are stupid and society places his looks on one part of the 'never getting laid'-ladder and so on and he started getting kinda creepy, wanted to stroke my friends beard and told him 'you get laid all day because you have a beard and muscles and can beat me any day of the week' and started getting into some really weird, vioent kind of talk so we just left him and changed bars. His final words was to say something like 'you see, everybody hates me!'. Its like he didnt get laid and instead of reviewing his own extremely creepy behaviour he only blamed society. I tried my best to reason with him but it was impossible. loving weirdo creepy gently caress ruining our night.
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Curdy Lemonstan posted:Lmao I was out drinking with friends yesterday and a guy came up to us and started talking the whole nice guy talk (a tinder date apparently never showed up, which is apparently not at all just normal flaky behaviour, no its a societal conspiracy that only happens to him). your bearded friend should have had sex with him to help him feel better about himself, he obv liked him
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Aug 28, 2016 15:25
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"how to make friends and influence people" is a book I hear ragged on due to its title all the time but it's not crafty in any sense. it's stuff like "when you approach someone for a deal, tell them what's in it for them not what's in it for you". that's not sly fox poo poo, it's how communication is supposed to work and again, its biggest recommendation is "listen to people genuinely and take an interest in them"
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Aug 28, 2016 15:39
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Pick posted:and again, its biggest recommendation is "listen to people genuinely and take an interest in them" Oh poo poo, I thought you were supposed to blow people off and cut everything they say down with a sarcastic remark. To create a little mystery. Like a method, involving mystery.
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Aug 28, 2016 15:46
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King Vidiot posted:Oh poo poo, I thought you were supposed to blow people off and cut everything they say down with a sarcastic remark. To create a little mystery. Like a method, involving mystery. there are people at that level who could use that advice, yes
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Aug 28, 2016 15:46
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Even when we nice guys do get laid, we get in trouble!! Here's some advice we'll probably ganna need at some point: http://www.returnofkings.com/93929/what-to-do-if-police-are-questioning-you-about-a-sexual-encounter
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Aug 28, 2016 16:37
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Mr. Belding posted:I think that this criticism is a little simple. Yeah, this is the answer. Of course in doing so they reduce women to Rubik's Cubes or whatever that have to be solved algorithmically so Khazar-khum didn't exactly miss the mark
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Aug 28, 2016 16:42
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I don't think I've ever once ever EVER been worried a girl I was hooking up with was potentially going to call the police on me later
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Aug 28, 2016 16:53
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Anyone who needs to be told the advice in How to Make Friends and Influence People needs more help socialising than a book can possibly grant them. There are books with decent tips for improving communication but they are more specific than just generally being good at socialising, and their application won't be obvious to someone with significant problems. On conflict resolution/negotiation I'd go for the obvious Getting to Yes, Caspersen's Changing the Conversation is also an easy read that teaches complex perspective taking. I've never read them but I've heard the simpler books of alternative phrasing can be helpful to some (perfect phrases for series, or King's Conversation Tactics). Top recommendations for sad guys: The Charisma Myth, if you want to be more outgoing, or Susan Cain's Quiet, if you want to learn that being an introvert doesn't mean you suck at life. I would probably stay away from any book pitched at learning to talk to the opposite sex, but The Art of Charm is a decent podcast that started out kind of pua-ish but has now become mainstream lifecoaching on all subjects (including dating) and features a very diverse range of high profile guest speakers. Other than that I'm told improv classes or storytelling workshops are helpful for boosting confidence and improving specific social skills.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:11
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I should actually add Humble Inquiry by Schein to that list, it teaches how to ask questions better, in a Socratic questioning way or for just showing genuine interest.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:12
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Moridin920 posted:I don't think I've ever once ever EVER been worried a girl I was hooking up with was potentially going to call the police on me later Way to rub your neurotypical privilege in spergers' faces.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:14
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Calico Heart posted:Even when we nice guys do get laid, we get in trouble!! Here's some advice we'll probably ganna need at some point: Man, the third LoTR story is weird.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:14
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is return of the kings the one run by the rapist (who actually wrote down that he committed rapes in his guides).
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Aug 28, 2016 17:19
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Groovelord Neato posted:is return of the kings the one run by the rapist (who actually wrote down that he committed rapes in his guides). "Rapist PUA" is a pretty redundant term honestly
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Aug 28, 2016 17:35
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Out of the various subreddits and other communities targeted at the PUA, nice guy, or MGTOW crowds Return of Kings is easily the worst I've ever seen.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:40
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Return of kings are in a different league of rapist to the average pua. The f plus have done multiple episodes on roosh v, and he is so extremely naive about what consent means and also deliberately ignorant to the idea that women are sentient. I actually have to assume most of his stories are fake and he actually has all the experience of Elliott Rodgers when it comes to talking to women, because there is no way he wouldn't have had charges pressed against him otherwise. I know that rape charges are difficult to make stick, but roosh is so desperately uncharismatic and weakly ineffective that I can't imagine him either intimidating a woman into silence or being able to make it through even a friendly conversation with a police officer without accidentally implicating himself in every unsolved rape case ever committed.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:42
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it's the guy uhhw hat's his name roosh. he writes actual travel guide books about getting laid in certain countries and admits to rape a bunch. from hisbook "Bang Ukraine": quote:I was loving her from behind, getting to the end in the way I normally did, when all of a sudden she said, “Wait stop, I want to go back on top.” I refused and we argued. … She tried to squirm away while I was laying down my strokes so I had to use some muscle to prevent her from escaping. I was able to finish, but my orgasm was weak. "Bang Iceland": quote:While walking to my place, I realized how drunk she was. In America, having sex with her would have been rape, since she couldn’t legally give her consent. It didn’t help matters that I was relatively sober, but I can’t say I cared or even hesitated. I won’t rationalize my actions, but having sex is what I do. "Bang Poland": quote:We moved to my bed. I got her down to her bra and panties, but she kept saying, “No, no.” I was so turned on by her beauty and petite figure that I told myself she’s not walking out my door without getting hosed. At that moment I accepted the idea of getting locked up in a Polish prison to make it happen. I put on a condom, lubed up, and finally got her consent to put it in. … I put her on her stomach and went deep, pounding her pussy like a pedophile. She took it like a champ even though I imagine it must have felt like being hosed by a telescope. My orgasm was from another world.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:44
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Moon Atari posted:Anyone who needs to be told the advice in How to Make Friends and Influence People needs more help socialising than a book can possibly grant them. There are books with decent tips for improving communication but they are more specific than just generally being good at socialising, and their application won't be obvious to someone with significant problems. On conflict resolution/negotiation I'd go for the obvious Getting to Yes, Caspersen's Changing the Conversation is also an easy read that teaches complex perspective taking. I've never read them but I've heard the simpler books of alternative phrasing can be helpful to some (perfect phrases for series, or King's Conversation Tactics). Top recommendations for sad guys: The Charisma Myth, if you want to be more outgoing, or Susan Cain's Quiet, if you want to learn that being an introvert doesn't mean you suck at life. I've been meaning to read Quiet.
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yeah he does run return of the kings also from his book "30 Bangs":quote:After dinner we went upstairs and I eased her onto my king-size bed. It took four hours of foreplay and at least thirty repetitions of “No, Roosh, no” until she allowed my penis to enter her vagina. No means no—until it means yes
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Aug 28, 2016 17:46
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's the guy uhhw hat's his name roosh. he writes actual travel guide books about getting laid in certain countries and admits to rape a bunch.  I really hope this is STDH and is all a work of fiction from his hosed up mind. All written for kudos on his site of fellow virgins
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Aug 28, 2016 17:51
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Aug 28, 2016 17:54
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's the guy uhhw hat's his name roosh. he writes actual travel guide books about getting laid in certain countries and admits to rape a bunch. Interesting that the Ukrainian girl seemed to be enjoying herself for a bit and that was considered unacceptable and a boner killer to him
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Aug 28, 2016 17:58
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*in the voice of Milton from office space* "excuse me, I'm....im going to go inside you now" "No roosh" "....I, I.... if you don't let me have sex with you, than im going to...I'm going to ra..to ra...to leave right now" "gently caress off roosh" *goes home and writes elaborate rape fantasy unaware that even in his fiction he is a loser that can't actually get a girl*
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Aug 28, 2016 18:05
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Mak0rz posted:Interesting that the Ukrainian girl seemed to be enjoying herself for a bit and that was considered unacceptable and a boner killer to him what kind of weirdo doesn't want a woman riding him. the kind of weirdo that's a serial rapist by the looks of it.
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Aug 28, 2016 18:10
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you must not allow the woman to be on top, for that is a position of weakness for the man and you must never be weak!!1
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Aug 28, 2016 18:18
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Zzulu posted:you must not allow the woman to be on top, for that is a position of weakness for the man and you must never be weak!!1 yeah but you can just chill out and grab some boob while she grinds on your dick. being able to relax while someone else does all the work is also an indication of higher status
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Aug 28, 2016 18:23
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If you've ever let a woman be on top you've hosed up 
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Aug 28, 2016 18:23
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i was gonna say he should be used to it considering how much he fucks up.
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Aug 28, 2016 18:44
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Moon Atari posted:If you've ever let a woman be on top you've hosed up lol
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Aug 28, 2016 18:53
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haha..... erection.
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Aug 28, 2016 19:03
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a dog from hell posted:You can look at girls and nobody can stop you. It's pretty pleasant in its own right and you can be as perverted and blatant about it as you wish. loving good god
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Aug 28, 2016 19:26
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Those Roosh V stories read like Patrick Bateman's inner monologue
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Aug 28, 2016 19:39
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here's some morequote:My default opinion of any girl I meet is 'worthless dirty whore until proven otherwise'. When so many girls have opened their legs up for me so quickly and easily, it's hard for me to respect them [and their opinions or ideas] like I would a family member or close friend.
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Aug 28, 2016 19:41
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wait what's wrong with wanting to be choked
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Aug 28, 2016 19:52
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Blue Train posted:wait what's wrong with wanting to be choked
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Aug 28, 2016 21:10
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loving slut whores who have sex with me. I am constantly having sex with women and I am awesome but this girl who just had sex with me, god what a STUPID SLUTTY WHORE i have no respect for a person who so easily has sex with people *continues to have sex with people he dont even like*
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Aug 28, 2016 21:14
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*girl says no* *rapes girl* "Heh, loving slut. Zero respect."
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Aug 28, 2016 21:18
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Zzulu posted:you must not allow the woman to be on top, for that is a position of weakness for the man and you must never be weak!!1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0he-LZNzVg0
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Groovelord Neato posted:Roosh  Umm, is this guy walking the streets? Why hasn't he been extradited to one of these countries of offense and thrown into some kind of political prison? Because I'm pretty sure that guy's very existence counts as a war crime.
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King Vidiot posted:
A whole continent told him to gently caress off for being a disgusting human being.
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