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How do you store food in Tribal and Medieval starts?
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Aug 28, 2016 14:32
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Aleth posted:Yeah, just checked now and when you uninstall something it keeps the quality modifier so What I do to make sure i get good beds, for example, is just build twice as many as I want in the corridor and then move the good ones into the rooms, deconstruct the rest. Seems to work fine, just wastes a little bit of resources. You could always put the bad ones in the prisoner room instead. LLSix posted:How do you store food in Tribal and Medieval starts? Turn it into pemmican or anything else long-lived ASAP?
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Aug 28, 2016 14:43
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Yeah that is just a quick way to relocate furniture, it doesn't change it's statistics.
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Aug 28, 2016 15:34
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LLSix posted:How do you do this? I understand the theory but I've never managed it in practice. Even colonies 2-3 years old can spend a whole season making one large statue. And even with tons of statues I've never managed to get even one room to impressive. Well, first off sculpture isn't super good. A really good sculpture is great but, as you say, they take ages to make and you're not likely to get a really good one. You can offset this by using wood instead of stone, because stone has a major work-time multiplier so it takes ages to build stuff out of it, but it's still a lot of work for a low chance of payoff. If you get a really good artist and lots of time to work, then yeah it's worth going for, but don't make it your go-to effort. Instead, focus on getting a really good constructor, try to restrict construction to someone who's really good at it and get them to do all of it, so they level up a lot. Then demolish and rebuild furniture until it gives you high grade stuff. The main thing you need for impressiveness is quality, not specifically art. So a really loving good dining table will add a bunch to impressiveness just as a really good sculpture will, but the dining table is way easier to make because you will be building loads of stuff anyway and it's much faster. Carpet or smooth the floors, make your rooms real big, and fill them with lots and lots of fancy furniture. You can make those out of stone because a good constructor can still build a fancy stone table in a day. Combine your recreation and dining rooms into one and put your cool chess tables and armchairs and TVs in the same room as your masterwork marble dining tables, bigger rooms with more stuff in them help with impressiveness, basically impressiveness is not like cleanliness or beauty really, it's not averaged out, it's more additive, so a bigger room gives you more room to cram in more cool poo poo and the space itself helps with it too. The thing you want to use art for is giving massive beauty buffs to an area, so that people in it get an extra mood boost, for the long term effects of using a room, you need impressiveness, eating in an impressive dining room/sleeping in an impressive dorm/bedroom are all impressiveness based. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 16:05
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Just tried starting as the rich solo adventurer. His first colonist buddy was a damsel in distress named Lady. He saved her from her pursuers, but took some facial damage in the process causing her to spurn his subsequent advances. Her inability to give medical care was just icing on the cake. A week or so passes and another woman named Devlin joins up with a raid hot on her tail. She's super self sufficient, grabs the charge rifle and takes care of business on her own then comes back and tends to our hero. She nurses him back to complete health and everything is going great. Then they get in an argument trying to walk past each other in the freezer airlock and she beats him to death.
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Aug 28, 2016 17:50
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I am going to wait until A15 stable to play again. I've lost 4 colonies to unstable updates so far. And A15 just got released according to SendOwl sending me an email. Also on Steam. I opted out of the unstable branch. If you don't want to update due to mods, you can make it so you are still using A14 in the betas tab. IAmTheRad fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 18:56
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Ah yes, there's that enjoyable moment when you close your game to go make dinner, then come back later, find out that the game has moved up a version and steam has helpfully updated the mods to the new version when you fire it up. Time to go find the A14 versions of the stuff that updated.
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Aug 28, 2016 20:59
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Well the good news is many mods can't update to A15 until CCL comes out.
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Aug 28, 2016 21:31
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My colony is back on! It took two perfect mortar shots out of a ton of attempts, all but two of my colonists are dead, half the place burned to the ground and the centipede doled out ridiculous amounts of damage before being taken out by my turret but somehow we're still going. Wounded and depressed and starving, but still going. e: Argh, second to last guy died of infection because the only guy who could help him was spent the entire time being berserk. Again. Walton Simons fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 21:49
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Squeegy posted:Well the good news is many mods can't update to A15 until CCL comes out. Hospitality used some trickery to make it work without CCL. He will make it require CCL again once CCL is updated, of course. Also the alpha preview video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp3Mh3a7Ifk
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Aug 28, 2016 21:54
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I'm pretty new to this game, but I finally have a fairly stable colony on a mountainous map safe-ish in a closed off canyon. I've mined out all the visible veins of steel and components, but there's a ton of mountain all around me obviously. Is there more than stone and horrifying infestations to find if I start mining? If so, is there any way to tell where valuable stuff is buried in mountains or do I just hope to get lucky? Never seen any jade, gold, silver or plasteel on this map, and the only times I've seen materials other than stone in previous games, they've been at least partially exposed veins.
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Aug 28, 2016 22:08
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Well, that really is the end of it. Last colonist killed after 193 days. What does Randy decide on after two weeks under a psychic ship's influence and a five scyther plus centipede assault? Raid. Three melee dudes all under personal shields, I have one guy with an assault rifle. I have no turrets connected to power after the psychic ship attack. One of them attacks one anyway and the explosion knocks out his shield. I move in with the assault rifle, hoping that if I take one of them out, the others may flee. He comes at my guy, he fires and missed. I order him to move, he doesn't move quickly enough and is hacked to death. Game over. Can't wait to start again on A15 when I come back from holiday when I won't work my guys to breaking point or neglect mortars or assault psychic ships. Reztes posted:I've mined out all the visible veins of steel and components, but there's a ton of mountain all around me obviously. Is there more than stone and horrifying infestations to find if I start mining? If so, is there any way to tell where valuable stuff is buried in mountains or do I just hope to get lucky? Just hope to get lucky, I found a fair bit of steel and components by tunneling into the rock. e: Is this random seed scenario new? I'll probably not use it until I leave the planet on a normal Randy Rough game but it looks interesting. Putting my name as the seed results in a map with no orbital traders, permanent volcanic winter and a map scattered with dozens of golden military helmets. Walton Simons fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 22:10
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Reztes posted:I'm pretty new to this game, but I finally have a fairly stable colony on a mountainous map safe-ish in a closed off canyon. Just dig out tunnels around 9x9 squares of rock and veins will poke out of it. I found plenty of plasteel and steel in mountains that way, and you can make components with steel.
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Aug 28, 2016 22:51
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Squeegy posted:How do you take an arrow to the spine from the front without damaging any organs? How do you cut someone's heart installing a peg leg?
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Aug 28, 2016 23:08
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So my game got updated to 0.15 and tried to load my vanilla 0.13 save... It loaded fine, but there's no interface and no controls except for the camera which can be moved one keypress at a time. I can't even open the escape menu. Is there a way to salvage this or is it time to start a new game?
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Aug 28, 2016 23:20
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Away all Goats posted:So my game got updated to 0.15 and tried to load my vanilla 0.13 save... Opt into the A13 beta branch?
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Aug 28, 2016 23:23
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A15 changelist:quote:Change list:
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Aug 28, 2016 23:24
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Bemis posted:How do you cut someone's heart installing a peg leg? Although it seems like it could use a re balancing of the probabilities that makes wrong side or nearby site errors more common than accidentally transplanting a heart when installing a peg leg. zedprime fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Aug 28, 2016 23:25
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zedprime posted:Although it seems like it could use a re balancing of the probabilities that makes wrong side or nearby site errors more common than accidentally transplanting a heart when installing a peg leg. What the gently caress is this crazy poo poo, talking about not wanting to have hilariously random botched operations in Rimworld?! e: if Zzzt! was funny somehow, maybe a lot fewer people would be using RT Fuses. e again: Demiurge4 posted:Yeah that is just a quick way to relocate furniture, it doesn't change it's statistics. Do we know why some entities can't be uninstalled and moved and some can?
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Aug 28, 2016 23:43
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I've you've ever seen the episode of house where he writes: "NOT HIS LEG" on his leg... Yeah, I've talked to patients that do that just to be safe.
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Aug 28, 2016 23:48
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What's the point of letting you craft medicine if you still need an ingredient that can only be bought?
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Aug 28, 2016 23:55
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LonsomeSon posted:Do we know why some entities can't be uninstalled and moved and some can?
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Aug 28, 2016 23:56
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Bunleigh posted:What's the point of letting you craft medicine if you still need an ingredient that can only be bought? The ingredient is more common and likely to be carried by traders/used in other recipes?
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Aug 29, 2016 00:07
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So with A15 does the thing with pawns hitting on each other every five seconds and getting a -82342349080300 rebuffed mood penalty still happen?
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Aug 29, 2016 00:10
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LLSix posted:How do you store food in Tribal and Medieval starts? Bit late, but I don't usually store food at all in that case. I just set my stove for only 10 simple meals. They keep for 3 days, which is enough for me. Granted if something like a blight happens, you'll need to rely on hunting for materials, but it's easy enough to keep up. Pemmican just seems like a bad ROI in comparison.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:55
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NatasDog posted:Bit late, but I don't usually store food at all in that case. I just set my stove for only 10 simple meals. They keep for 3 days, which is enough for me. Granted if something like a blight happens, you'll need to rely on hunting for materials, but it's easy enough to keep up. Pemmican just seems like a bad ROI in comparison. You still have to store the raw materials though, unless you are sustinence farming a tiny little plot and rarely have extra left over.
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Aug 29, 2016 00:59
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DreamShipWrecked posted:You still have to store the raw materials though, unless you are sustinence farming a tiny little plot and rarely have extra left over. Planting a new tiny plot every day or two so they eventually cycle for constant food?
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Aug 29, 2016 01:28
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Rice/corn keeps for quite a while without refrigeration. Certainly enough to get you through the winter.
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Aug 29, 2016 01:33
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A boomalope died in the middle of my smokeleaf field, and the whole colony didn't get the mood boost. I want a refund!
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Aug 29, 2016 01:55
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No poo poo, I have failed to put a prosthetic leg on this one colonist 12 times now. They're in a hospital bed, I'm using the decent medicine, the doctor has good skills and is amplified a little by his clothing and modifications, but every time they touch this one colonist to put a drat leg back on the Doc turns into a blundering idiot and manages to leave the poor bugger with more wounds. I give up on this guy, I really do. I'm just going to set up a medical bed in my killbox area, move the legless dude to it and just let nature take its course.
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Aug 29, 2016 01:56
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I had a mostly useless raider show up. I did knock him out, gave him no medicine and just let him go. 99% difficulty recruitment chance. It doesn't help that with the hospitality mod that visitors eat all my food. I don't need another useless mouth to feed that will do absolutely nothing.
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Aug 29, 2016 02:00
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IAmTheRad posted:I had a mostly useless raider show up. I did knock him out, gave him no medicine and just let him go. 99% difficulty recruitment chance. It doesn't help that with the hospitality mod that visitors eat all my food. I don't need another useless mouth to feed that will do absolutely nothing. We call them "organ donors." You don't get a faction boost for releasing raiders, they don't care. Might as well let him bleed out on the ground if you're not gonna harvest him.
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Aug 29, 2016 02:04
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Man I wish this game had Embrasures. It feels awkward to have a bunker that is really easy to storm into. Or even just regular windows. Just some way to be able to fire out, but not allow passage
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Aug 29, 2016 02:05
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Away all Goats posted:Man I wish this game had Embrasures. It feels awkward to have a bunker that is really easy to storm into Theres a mod for that.
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Aug 29, 2016 02:06
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Tindahbawx posted:No poo poo, I have failed to put a prosthetic leg on this one colonist 12 times now. They're in a hospital bed, I'm using the decent medicine, the doctor has good skills and is amplified a little by his clothing and modifications, but every time they touch this one colonist to put a drat leg back on the Doc turns into a blundering idiot and manages to leave the poor bugger with more wounds. I've noticed it's also sort of dependant on light and room, if you don't have lamps and the room is rather crowded the failure rate is higher. Granted it might also be the sterile floor modifier messing with it a bit.
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Aug 29, 2016 02:10
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Squeegy posted:We call them "organ donors." You don't get a faction boost for releasing raiders, they don't care. Might as well let him bleed out on the ground if you're not gonna harvest him. Day 3 of a tribal start? Not going to butcher him when my entire tribe is already sad.
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Aug 29, 2016 03:29
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Basic usability 101: why doesn't this game give me a window with a scrollable list of all my colonists' skill levels right alongside the priorities list when I open the work UI? Not having that information at my fingertips without closing the window and clicking two more buttons to look at ONE colonist seems like a bafflingly large flaw for a part of the interface that's so core to playing the game. Routinely having to swap windows half a dozen times to get anything done in the work UI is putting a pretty big wall of tedium in front of my getting hooked on this game. (or even as simple as a tooltip over each job type showing the top 3 or 5 or whatever many colonists for that job by skill level)
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Aug 29, 2016 04:23
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IAmTheRad posted:Also the alpha preview video. RIP Andy. also this game has good music question: I see in people's videos and screenshots of weapons just laying around and I was wondering, is there any reason not to have all my dudes armed at all times? Like is there some kind of work or happiness penalty to being strapped when you're just trying to make some lovely meals? Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 04:47
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After a raid I usually go through the survivors and check for desirable traits and remaining/bionic limbs, if they haven't got anything desirable I leave them and let nature take its course. I usually don't bother with organ harvesting and slavery due to the mood penalties, but last night I almost made an exception... I had a colonist go chain berserk - I was half watching Peaky Blinders while playing and got through three episodes before finally deciding enough was enough. It started after his missus rejected his marriage proposal and his sister bit it when she tried to raid the colony, along with some other minor issues everyone was facing, his low break threshold meant he was constantly on edge - I was ok to deal with it the first dozen times, despite being non-violent he was good at crafting and growing, and at the very least was a hauler, so I figured he'd had a bad turn and he'd been around since the start so give him a chance. I'm not exaggerating when I say the first dozen times, it was probably more. Eventually I got sick of his poo poo and stopped trying to subdue him with fists and started having everyone shoot the bastard, but he gave Rasputin a run for his money and just would not die. Over the course of his various rampages he gained various scars, lost an arm, two fingers, a couple of toes, a foot, and a kidney but the fucker just wouldn't die, by this stage he was getting closer to having the mood loss timers run out so I figured if the tough son of a bitch lived, with a very bionic limbs would be worth keeping around. But when he ripped the ovaries out of one of the foxes I decided it was time to go out of my way to off the bastard. Having him live in the atrium (read: killbox) for a season didn't work. I also considered having him accidentally get walled in somewhere... preferably with a cooler having it's heating side facing him, but eventually I decided the best way was to line him up with a bunch of surgeries with Johnny, our resident bloodlusted psychopath Johnny was very interested in medicine, but only had a skill of three, so I figured I'd give him an opportunity to practice. When looking up the surgery list I found an option called "euthanise". Huh. And so after having two peg legs installed successfully without incident, Johnny smothered him with a pillow. I think it comes from the same mod that added the genitals. When I put him down everyone only suffered a -2 loss to mood and while I know that's not working as intended, I like to think that after assaulting half the colony during his depressive period everyone had enough of that poo poo and when Johnny came out of the ER and said he died peacefully in his sleep everyone just went with it. Rougey fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 04:54
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Toadsmash posted:Basic usability 101: why doesn't this game give me a window with a scrollable list of all my colonists' skill levels right alongside the priorities list when I open the work UI? Not having that information at my fingertips without closing the window and clicking two more buttons to look at ONE colonist seems like a bafflingly large flaw for a part of the interface that's so core to playing the game. Routinely having to swap windows half a dozen times to get anything done in the work UI is putting a pretty big wall of tedium in front of my getting hooked on this game. The boxes in the work screen are shaded based on that colonist's skill level (brighter box == more skill), and you can mouse over the boxes to get the actual skill numbers.
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