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Shbobdb posted:The US National Anthem should be "And the White Man Marches On". Have you thought that maybe it should be the horst wessel song.
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On the subject of voters dying off, the Trump base - non-college educated middle-aged whites - are the one demographic whose mortality rate has increased in the 21st century and they're dying of "despair deaths" - suicides, drug overdoses, and alcohol-related liver disease. The fear of death tends to push people towards conservative views; even reading about death before responding to a survey has a significant and mesasurable pro-conservative effect. Trump is constantly talking about violent death, he rhetorically paints a very bleak picture of an America riven by violence and tweets about murders and terrorist attacks as if they confirm his politics. His supporters are afraid that society has left them behind and Trump is selling them easy scapegoats. In other countries a populist anti-globalist left could reach out to some of these people but sadly Americans associate such parties with communism.
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Aug 29, 2016 03:55
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DemeaninDemon posted:Well yeah we know that. Are you male? It's a honest question because hidden systemic sexism pushes males to disregard and feel threatened by women in power. Only when called out on it will it go away. Unless you're an alt right misogynistic douche lord then well you suck. It's the female version of angry black man sort of. I'm a guy, yeah, but I've also had female bosses exclusively for going on six years so if I had issues with women in leadership this probably wouldn't be the way I found out. I like Hillary and will gladly vote for her. Is it controversial to say she has a poor delivery?
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Aug 29, 2016 04:00
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Eifert Posting posted:Is it controversial to say she has a poor delivery? I think her delivery is average, or perhaps just above average. I think our perception is skewed by the amazing delivery of Obama that we've had.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:01
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Stereotype posted:Besides hyper partisan billionaires, the top quartile of earners have been bailing on the GOP for the past decade. Democrats actually win that bracket now due to just how lovely Republicans are at even shoveling money to the rich.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:02
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Eifert Posting posted:I wish Hillary Clinton didn't sound like a disgruntled substitute teacher. More like a typical principal. All rules, no sympathy. Nobody likes 'em but the olds and hall monitors.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:02
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Bip Roberts posted:That has nothing to do with the poisonous policies of the GOP. People are tribal everywhere but somehow other countries can run reasonable social and or infrastructure programs without throwing kinipshits. Centuries of harsh frontier life have altered the genetic population of America. I thought we just had a giant derail about this.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:02
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Stereotype posted:I'm being dead serious. I honestly have this stance but I keep questioning whether it's right or not because of how absolutist it is. However I cannot think of a single Republican policy, one which is not bipartisan in some way, that would help society.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:04
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AMorePerfctGoonion posted:. In other countries a populist anti-globalist left could reach out to some of these people but sadly Americans associate such parties with communism. Or it's that these groups have been godawful at finding a message and distribution method that courts non-college middle aged white men AND the politically relevant members of the Obama coalition and as such fail to have any relevance. In many other counties, that isn't an issue because the minority groups lack political power or the democratic system is fractured enough that a "white progressive party" can drive policy via coalition building.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:04
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QuarkJets posted:And it might go even deeper than you realize. You know how some schools do the thing where they give crying/pissing/making GBS threads baby dolls to girls so that they can understand how awful it is to take care of a baby? This is the sort of program that is pushed by conservatives in an attempt to reduce teen pregnancy rates. It has the opposite effect; girls who have to raise life-like dolls are twice as likely to become pregnant before age 20. Hahaha uh oh! "Hey I can do this!"
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Aug 29, 2016 04:07
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SSNeoman posted:I honestly have this stance but I keep questioning whether it's right or not because of how absolutist it is. Nope. They are objectively, demonstrably incorrect on every major issue. Want a better economy? Don't vote republican. Less abortions? Don't vote republican. Decrease the national debt? Guess who you shouldn't be voting for. Being a republican is like saying 2 + 2 = 5. 30 TO 50 FERAL HOG fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 04:10
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Boon posted:There exists evidence that we are genetically predisposed to a political tendency. So at the heart of what you're implying is something abhorrent. Sociopathy is genetic too But seriously, no matter your political beliefs, modern conservatism is antithetic to your goals. Unless you're suggesting that people are genetically predisposed to desire a method for achieving a goal instead of a goal itself. Like people don't want less crime, they want more punishment for crimes.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:11
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I think men have issues with women in power because biologically that's just the way we are put together as social animals - authority naturally rests with men in most primitive societies. Historically, the concept of a female authority figure is novel in Western society outside of certain occupations, and in positions of real power men still outnumber women. Unfortunately people have a tendency to rationalize their viewpoints even if they are influenced by basic biases and prejudice, so it's virtually impossible to root out how much of the criticism of Clinton is due to unfair bias but when the language used against her is sexualized ("witch", "irritating voice", etc") it's pretty hard not to believe it's a dog whistle.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:12
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*ignores a shitload of present-day tribal matriarchal societies*
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like seriously if you want to go all evo-psych I think you'll find supporting a patriarchy with that is a bit of an uphill battle
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Aug 29, 2016 04:17
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I'm trying to think of a good republican policy not shared by Democrats, or not held by summer fringe Republican and not representative of the party as a whole, coming up blank.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:17
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Kilroy posted:*ignores a shitload of present-day tribal matriarchal societies* Most anthropologists would say that there are no known examples of unambiguously matriarchal societies at all. There are, of course, societies with relative gender equality.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:18
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greatn posted:I'm trying to think of a good republican policy not shared by Democrats, or not held by summer fringe Republican and not representative of the party as a whole, coming up blank.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:18
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Oh poo poo pull up thread The latest ep of Chapo Trap House read through a David French article about how millennial men are ~weak~ because one whole idiotic study showed something about how younger dudes' grip strength (lol) was lower than it was in previous generations. America Goes Soft: The Pussification Continues! (seriously lol at the notion of primitive gender roles c'mon guy)
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Aug 29, 2016 04:20
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greatn posted:I'm trying to think of a good republican policy not shared by Democrats, or not held by summer fringe Republican and not representative of the party as a whole, coming up blank.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:22
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Ol Standard Retard posted:Oh poo poo pull up thread Not enough beating their meat.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:25
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AMorePerfctGoonion posted:I think men have issues with women in power because biologically that's just the way we are put together as social animals - authority naturally rests with men in most primitive societies. Historically, the concept of a female authority figure is novel in Western society outside of certain occupations, and in positions of real power men still outnumber women. Unfortunately people have a tendency to rationalize their viewpoints even if they are influenced by basic biases and prejudice, so it's virtually impossible to root out how much of the criticism of Clinton is due to unfair bias but when the language used against her is sexualized ("witch", "irritating voice", etc") it's pretty hard not to believe it's a dog whistle. also women are predisposed to like the color pink because of berries or something, furthermore
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^ well u see, human male ancestors needed to distinguish subtle variations in prey animal *squelchy toilet noise*DemeaninDemon posted:Not enough beating their meat. This was the gist of their entire commentary also insinuation about David french's preference for strong teenage boy hands, it's a weird show.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:30
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Kilroy posted:*ignores a shitload of present-day tribal matriarchal societies* This is an interesting discussion to have because it's hard to define in a lot of cases. For example you have a bunch of societies (Taino are the one coming to me but I know there are others) that prescribed significant social status to postmenopausal women but not pre and how do you qualify THAT? But generally I roll my eyes when people prescribe human traits supposedly originating from pre-agricultural society. The people in this thread almost assuredly have hundreds of generations separating them from any such "genetic memory." I'll stick to blaming everyday society and the systematic inequality every agricultural society has shown for millenia, thanks.
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Eifert Posting posted:This is an interesting discussion to have because it's hard to define in a lot of cases. For example you have a bunch of societies (Taino are the one coming to me but I know there are others) that prescribed significant social status to postmenopausal women but not pre and how do you qualify THAT? Or stick with a personal feeling that Hillary just isn't the best public speaker in the world, especially next to the likes of Obama. I think Hillary will be a fine president and I voted for her in the primary, but I think she's a somewhat weak campaigner when she's not hammering Trump. By all accounts she's much more personable and at ease with small groups versus speaking to large crowds.
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Ol Standard Retard posted:^ well u see, human male ancestors needed to distinguish subtle variations in prey animal *squelchy toilet noise* I think they finally settled on the theory that French is just ashamed of his effeminate, video game playing son.
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Ol Standard Retard posted:^ well u see, human male ancestors needed to distinguish subtle variations in prey animal *squelchy toilet noise* https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/756130903215276032
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Aug 29, 2016 04:37
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greatn posted:I'm trying to think of a good republican policy not shared by Democrats, or not held by summer fringe Republican and not representative of the party as a whole, coming up blank. Well, that and their mealymouthed pro-NASA words and total lack of funding to back it up.
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Can we at least all agree that this is sexist?Boosted_C5 posted:As much as I loathe Hillary Clinton I am a capitalist and I would take a six-figure cash-money position right loving now as her handler.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:41
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BiohazrD posted:Nope. They are objectively, demonstrably incorrect on every major issue. Yes, but they have spent billions of dollars and decades of time trying to convince their base that all of these are not only correct, but the only moral choices. Said base has fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. When it fails, the base votes for it even harder out of dedication to the Sunk Costs Fallacy: admitting they were wrong after putting in so much time and faith into these beliefs is too terrifying to ever stop so they won't willingly change, even if it's actually killing them (it honestly is). This all benefits the upperclass that finances the Republicans and makes it piss easy to bilk multi-billions from their base, so they have no incentive to stop before the supply of rubes simply cannot support them anymore. To bring us back to the "controversy" I have always been a little creeped out at the insistence that we mindlessly preform all these "patriotism" rituals. It's like we must bow before the proper totems solely to make the conservatives feel more secure. Meanwhile, deliberately sabotaging the nation is still defended because their leaders show the proper meaningless rituals and spew the right platitudes. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Aug 29, 2016 04:43
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Can we at least all agree that this is sexist? Well, it's a boosted post.
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Aug 29, 2016 04:44
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Can we at least all agree that this is sexist? There are probably several hundred pages worth of posts in the Trump thread that are just variations on "wear the hat, boosted" what did you all expect if he actually did?
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Aug 29, 2016 04:46
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They should do a remix of that Crazy Frog cover of Axel F but replace the bing bing bong parts with vocoded Trump lines
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Aug 29, 2016 04:49
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:isidewith.com has the GOP opposing the NSA collecting metadata while Dems support it. Of course, that's sort of a moot point with the GOP supporting the PATRIOT Act, but, well, it's there. Weren't conservatives the ones most loudly calling for Snowden's blood? I sincerely doubt that the GOP is less in favor of NSA surveillance than... well, literally anyone else
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Aug 29, 2016 05:05
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AMorePerfctGoonion posted:I think men have issues with women in power because biologically that's just the way we are put together as social animals - authority naturally rests with men in most primitive societies. Historically, the concept of a female authority figure is novel in Western society outside of certain occupations, and in positions of real power men still outnumber women. Unfortunately people have a tendency to rationalize their viewpoints even if they are influenced by basic biases and prejudice, so it's virtually impossible to root out how much of the criticism of Clinton is due to unfair bias but when the language used against her is sexualized ("witch", "irritating voice", etc") it's pretty hard not to believe it's a dog whistle. So by the same token you would say that liberals see Palin as a dumb "ditzy broad" for the same reason conservatives see Clinton as a bossy overbearing "bulldike"? The sense I get is the sexist impulses really come into play when men - especially conservatives - don't like a woman's beliefs. When she's on their team they don't seem threatened. I have a hard time reconciling conservatives' affinity with the likes of Palin with the idea that their vitriol toward Hillary, Michelle Obama or Sandra Fluke reflects their being uncomfortable with women having power in general.
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Aug 29, 2016 05:15
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Palin was a VP pick, she wasn't actually going to have any power unless McCain died.
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Aug 29, 2016 05:24
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It's not crazy or sexist to say Clinton just doesn't have the chops for saying inspiring speeches, because she just doesn't She's not shrill, she doesn't have a weak voice, it's not one of the standard complaints against women, and i think women exist who are great at it, she's just honestly sorta bad
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Aug 29, 2016 05:25
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theflyingorc posted:It's not crazy or sexist to say Clinton just doesn't have the chops for saying inspiring speeches, because she just doesn't This is entirely different than saying she sounds like a disgruntled substitute teacher.
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Aug 29, 2016 05:27
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joe football posted:Battle Hymn of the Republic. Fourth verse only.
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Disgruntled Substitute Teacher is extremely endearing to me and makes me like her.
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