Germstore posted:

they are very different things. if it was refunds someone from steam would be showing up at Hello Games with a baseball bat demanding 8 or so million dollars back (which would be good and cool).

VendaGoat posted:

So, with a 90% drop in player population, what do you think will be the percentage of players asking for a refund?

Wait, wait, let me take a guess. Between 90 to 0%.

Does that sound about correct? Somewhere in the realm of possibility?

Germstore posted:

I- I don't know what this is.

Moridin920 posted:

fair enough I suppose but on the other hand if you expect video game trailers to be 100% accurate to the game then lol

Blazing Ownager posted:

There's typical bullshit then there's Colonial Marines bullshit and this blew Colonial Marines out of the water.

I don't get why anyone gives this company a pass for their bullshit lies.

Applewhite posted:

They have the game creator on film saying that players will be able to see each other in game. He's a liar ipso factso.

Blazing Ownager posted:

There's typical bullshit then there's Colonial Marines bullshit and this blew Colonial Marines out of the water.

I don't get why anyone gives this company a pass for their bullshit lies.

VendaGoat posted:

So, with a 90% drop in player population, what do you think will be the percentage of players asking for a refund?

Wait, wait, let me take a guess. Between 90 to 0%.

Does that sound about correct? Somewhere in the realm of possibility?

Moridin920 posted:

Bro you're just not aware of how this works man I see what you're saying but literally every single game that comes out sees a similar drop after a week or so and it's indicative of nothing other than gamers have short attention spans - ESPECIALLY for indie games like this where there just isn't much to offer after a week of playing it.

D3 had a nearly 70% dropoff as well and it did just fine financially.

And it's not 90% drop in player population, it's number of people playing at that moment in time. Just accounting for time zones alone you see how that's misleading.

Flesh Forge posted:

they showed prerendered stuff with textures and shaders way better than the game released with mainly, id say this game promised a lot more and delivered a lot less

Moridin920 posted:

D3 had a nearly 70% dropoff in concurrent players as well in about the same time frame and it did just fine financially.

Moridin920 posted:

eh that'd require a total rework of the game and at least 1-2 years of delay which probably was not at all in the cards budget wise


tbh just going from what the devs said and paying 0 attention to any hype it seems like exactly the game they said it was going to be lol. they never promised a deep space sim and people who thought it would be that despite all evidence to the contrary are dumbos.


Maybe I'm just too jaded from Fable and Spore.

nigga crab pollock posted:

but when will wright said there was a surprise at the center of the galaxy there was actually something loving there

nigga crab pollock posted:

i was gonna say this but i never looked at any interviews or anything besides the trailer.

theres plenty of videos of people comparing poo poo they said was going to be in the game with reality and they lied about a bunch of stuff. not just straight up lies like 'you can see other players in the game, it has mutiplayer' but also implying that certain things like aliens or structures would have more to them. when pressed about specifics they would dawdle on with 'yeah, that's possible, there's infinite possibilities' when no, it was not possible, in fact it was not ever part of the games design. they deflected basically every question to a mealy confirmation of something

like spore had poo poo cut from the final game but like... . will wright didn't go on stage and show a demo with things and imply they were features that were clearly not ever part of the game's original scope. sure like they cut some of the modes and the game was kind of half baked and led on to be much more complex than it really was - but when will wright said there was a surprise at the center of the galaxy there was actually something loving there

Nooner posted:

this guy wants to gently caress the video game

nigga crab pollock posted:

like spore had poo poo cut from the final game but like... . will wright didn't go on stage and show a demo with things and imply they were features that were clearly not ever part of the game's original scope. sure like they cut some of the modes and the game was kind of half baked and led on to be much more complex than it really was - but when will wright said there was a surprise at the center of the galaxy there was actually something loving there

nigga crab pollock posted:

i was gonna say this but i never looked at any interviews or anything besides the trailer.

theres plenty of videos of people comparing poo poo they said was going to be in the game with reality and they lied about a bunch of stuff. not just straight up lies like 'you can see other players in the game, it has mutiplayer' but also implying that certain things like aliens or structures would have more to them. when pressed about specifics they would dawdle on with 'yeah, that's possible, there's infinite possibilities' when no, it was not possible, in fact it was not ever part of the games design. they deflected basically every question to a mealy confirmation of something

like spore had poo poo cut from the final game but like... . will wright didn't go on stage and show a demo with things and imply they were features that were clearly not ever part of the game's original scope. sure like they cut some of the modes and the game was kind of half baked and led on to be much more complex than it really was - but when will wright said there was a surprise at the center of the galaxy there was actually something loving there

Moridin920 posted:

i didn't know that other stuff so, hosed up if true

but spore def mothafuckin did that lol I remember the alpha footage or whatever and it was 100% a completely different game

Nooner posted:

you also want to gently caress the video game lol

Flesh Forge posted:

I like how naive a lot of people are about "these things were in the game and were taken out!!!" and can't smell a pre rendered mockup when it's shown to them

You know how the camera pans around in all the presentation footage and it looks like a robot steadicam and nothing like how a human being would move around and look at things, that's because it's all mockup

Nooner posted:

you also want to gently caress the video game lol

VendaGoat posted:

CrashCat posted:

Except Hello Games is functionally retarded and kept a bunch of early mockup not real very much not in game totally faked absolutely false presentation footage in trailers they were making as recently as July. You know, July, the month when they went gold and had a version of the game on a disc which was very real, good enough to submit to Sony, final enough to be pressed onto discs, and they knew what was on it and posed for a really cheesy picture that's still pinned on his loving Twitter

Nice cheese melt

Flesh Forge posted:

No no I don't disagree with any of that, they're dicks and it was deceptive, just ... so many people fell for robot steadicam and it seemed so obvious to me they weren't gonna actually deliver that

Hey kids, any time you see that too-smooth camera movement it's a giant red flag. Not that it'd be impossible to fake it with actual pre-recorded player camera movement but sticking a camera on a spline is like, the easiest thing to do . If you can set up a mockup in which a live human being can walk around in and it still looks good that's actually not a mockup any more, that's your game

Rabble posted:

Hey guys I would pay good money to have the Witcher 1 and 2 remade with 3's combat mechanics...Thanks for reading.

Moridin920 posted:

i didn't know that other stuff so, hosed up if true

but spore def mothafuckin did that lol I remember the alpha footage or whatever and it was 100% a completely different game

CrashCat posted:

you can have it in No Man's Sky, for all we know

just pay them $60, maybe it'll happen eventually

Smythe posted:

where is the games thread i cant find it

Smythe posted:

where is the games thread i cant find it