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Chris Kenny posted:mate just fucken go dogs
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Aug 29, 2016 10:01
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man the chris kenny burns are coming faster than chris kenny at a dog show
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Aug 29, 2016 10:06
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Cartoon posted:This is such a common tactic surely it has a label by now. It's generally called 'teaching the controversy.'
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Aug 29, 2016 10:11
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Gorbash posted:False equivalence fallacy is the usual one. Bad example for false equivalence there. The burden of proof for climate change is on the people seeking to prove it. Pointing out the skeptic is a "non-scientist" is an appeal to authority. It doesn't matter who is trying to prove or reject a proof, it is the evidence or lack thereof that makes the decision. There are a lot of scientists who get more support and funding via government by supporting the climate change hypothesis, and the American government (for example) responds by saying we need to control people's freedoms more. This is not a debate about the environment at all or we would be rejecting violence- literal destruction of humans and the environment- even when the violence is enacted by government. The government is destroying us in the name of protecting us, under the guise of "environment". What about the post office desperately trying to maintain its existence, circulating spam mail and general garbage nobody wants or needs. Waste of paper and an entire office of workers, and a waste of money. Money is a wild card for resources, once you understand money=resources then you will see that economy and environment support each other. Any time someone demands restricting economic freedom in the name of environment is walking one direction while facing the opposite. Restricting economic freedom restricts one's ability to support the environment. And a restriction is usually enforced by the violent hand of the government, pure environmental destruction. Violence always achieves the opposite of the intended goal.
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Starshark posted:Bad example for false equivalence there. The burden of proof for climate change is on the people seeking to prove it. Pointing out the skeptic is a "non-scientist" is an appeal to authority. It doesn't matter who is trying to prove or reject a proof, it is the evidence or lack thereof that makes the decision. source your quotes
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Aug 29, 2016 10:28
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I'm fatally attracted to insane lolbs.
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So let me get this right: We hold a plebiscite on same sex marriage: -It wont be for a year. -It will cost half a billion dollars to run. -Imagine the fake outrage over Safe Schools x 100 and stretched out over a whole goddamn year. -The results are not binding so members of parliment can ignore it if they dont like that polls suggest 55%+ will vote for it. -SSM doesnt happen for the forseeable future. We dont hold it: -LNP+Nats+One Nation still have the numbers to block poo poo up -poo poo is stuffed til the next election. -Even then it might not happen depending on how hung Parliment is in 2019? -SSM doesnt happen for the forseeable future. or We dont hold it: -Somehow Leadership happens -Bill passes? -  ???
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yeah basically thanks to ~politics~ it's highly unlikely that a portion of our citizens will achieve equality in the current political landscape.
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Aug 29, 2016 11:46
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I don't think it will be quite as bad as the poo poo around Safe Schools honestly. You can whip up a lot of moral panic when you introduce kids into the mix. I just don't think the anti-SS marriage debate will have the same legs for bigoted shitheads.
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SynthOrange posted:We dont hold it:
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I don't think it will be quite as bad as the poo poo around Safe Schools honestly. You can whip up a lot of moral panic when you introduce kids into the mix. I just don't think the anti-SS marriage debate will have the same legs for bigoted shitheads. nah it'll be just as bad because this is going to be forced on everyone and won't someone think of the children raised in same-sex families?????
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Aug 29, 2016 11:49
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SynthOrange posted:So let me get this right: I read that, presuming conscience votes, this is the first parliament where SSM has majority support (not by as much as the public supports it, but enough to pass with some wiggle room). Now, whether anybody in there can and/or will put it to a conscience vote is another question, but the point is if one were held not even Bernardi, Christensen and Hansen would be able to halt it. We're better off not getting the plebiscite for other and obvious reasons, but that trigger is what I'm gonna mourn. Nobody who can easily pull that is willing to, at least the plebiscite would've scared up some action.
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Aug 29, 2016 11:51
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Four Corners expose regarding our data privacy is pretty drat good right now. I'd say it's a must watch.
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Recoome posted:nah it'll be just as bad because this is going to be forced on everyone and won't someone think of the children raised in same-sex families????? Yeah my cousin started with this poo poo and when I called her out on it a million of her facebook friends started arguing the toss with me ("It's not homophobia..."). Lots of morons with this opinion and I'm not allowed by law to shoot them.
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Starshark posted:Lots of morons with this opinion and I'm not allowed by law to shoot them. Should've voted LDP then.
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Redcordial posted:Four Corners expose regarding our data privacy is pretty drat good right now. That was pretty scary.
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EoinCannon posted:That was pretty scary. I thought I was aware of the general level of data breaches and privacy concerns, but it turns out I'm quite a ways off. Luckily I have no funds or interesting information to steal besides in the physical sense. Not much use running the risk of getting caught for my bank account 
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https://twitter.com/vanbadham/status/770189389087420416
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SynthOrange posted:
I work there and that kind of even looks like my store  Note the subtle Aboriginal flag colouring on the signs
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Aug 29, 2016 12:48
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Hawthorn? Inside was even more depressing, giant 'going out of business' banners everywhere. I just wanted house paint and patching.
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This was a good QandA.
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Aug 29, 2016 13:37
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Doctor Spaceman posted:This was a good QandA. Agreed.
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Good, it's bad. Enjoy solidarity.
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Surely Shorten's best play on the plebiscite is to tentatively support it, contingent on Turnbull promising that the results are binding and Liberals must vote accordingly. He can't and won't, and at least then the Liberals can't paint Labor and Greens as obstructionists, as it'll be shown as the farce it is, as well as further undermining his leadership.
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SynthOrange posted:Hawthorn? Yep There's probably been about 30 staff that have quit since the original closing down announcement last year, they've kind of half-heartedly topped up a bit with fixed term casuals (most of whom know gently caress all about the products or anything really) in the last few weeks but it's still essentially a skeleton crew facing off against the Mongol hordes Jonah Galtberg fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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iajanus posted:Screenshot please 
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Aug 29, 2016 14:29
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We've always been at war with the Greens.
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Cleretic posted:I read that, presuming conscience votes, this is the first parliament where SSM has majority support (not by as much as the public supports it, but enough to pass with some wiggle room). Now, whether anybody in there can and/or will put it to a conscience vote is another question, but the point is if one were held not even Bernardi, Christensen and Hansen would be able to halt it. I'm pretty sure the numbers have been there before, it's just that the libs and labor refused conscious votes at different times to prevent it happening. Labor wouldn't allow one whilst the libs would, then when labor decided they'd allow it the libs made it binding in their party. It's going to happen, it's just that, as seems to be the case lately, we'll be on the wrong aide of history doing it.
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If only she hadn't banned so many people at the drop of a hat the replies would be awesome
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To be fair to her, she has always been against the plebiscite. She just decided to bash the greens for also being anti plebiscite because that shows they're idealistic and not interested in real results....
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hooman posted:To be fair to her, she has always been against the plebiscite. She just decided to bash the greens for also being anti plebiscite because that shows they're idealistic and not interested in real results.... And this is exactly how I said the ALP would react. I'm just wondering how they're going to spin it if they do decide to block the plebiscite, other than weakly claim they thought of it first.
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Malcolm Turnbull's popularity at new low, Newspoll shows Satisfaction levels drop six percentage points since election to 34%, the lowest since he ousted Tony Abbott from office You can hear those knives sharpening.
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The Abbott-Turnbull-Abbott years.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The Abbott-Turnbull-Bernardi years.  Welcome to hell
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Federal Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has been accused of intolerance and "brutal" language towards people opposed to same-sex marriage, in a confrontation with a rector outside a church service this morning. lol my feelings!
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