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Chimera-gui posted:How are people so stupid to think that loving Mexico is actually going to pay for Trump's god drat wall? He's really not trying to appeal to black voters (or he might be stupid enough to think he'll manage it, while his advisors know better) but rather to convince fence-sitting white voters 'No man I'm totally not racist, look, I tried to reach out and they were just so unreasonable wink wink'
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Night10194 posted:He's really not trying to appeal to black voters (or he might be stupid enough to think he'll manage it, while his advisors know better) but rather to convince fence-sitting white voters 'No man I'm totally not racist, look, I tried to reach out and they were just so unreasonable wink wink' I see on twitter that PPP has just released a poll of African Americans, and 97% have an unfavorable view of Trump, 3% aren't sure, and 0% have a favorable view. Zero. Percent.
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Aug 30, 2016 03:24
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Extensive Vamping posted:If a bubble should occur in an environment of austerity, and then burst, would anyone know the difference? I was in the workforce during the Clinton presidency, so I remember what an actual functioning economy looks like. We haven't had one in the United States for about two decades. Until consumers have actual money to spend, we're hosed. It's weird just how much I can infer about your life from this post. Cheer up buddy
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Aug 30, 2016 03:28
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I had this framed to me as Kanye West vs. Marco Rubio yesterday. I prefer Dennis Rodman vs Jeb Bush myself
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Aug 30, 2016 03:34
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This is media related so I'm posting it here too: https://twitter.com/braddjaffy/status/770438006901735424
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Aug 30, 2016 03:36
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Night10194 posted:He's really not trying to appeal to black voters (or he might be stupid enough to think he'll manage it, while his advisors know better) but rather to convince fence-sitting white voters 'No man I'm totally not racist, look, I tried to reach out and they were just so unreasonable wink wink' My hometown AM radio man, who caters to racist upper middle class white flight suburbanites in suburban Milwaukee, was convinced that Hillary's latest attacks on Trump's association with alt-right neo-nazis is because she and liberals are terrified that Trump is going to show poor black people the truth that Democrats are the real racists and that welfare is the new plantation slavery. This guy, by the way, is about as orthodox a movement conservative as they come and has been super hostile to Trump over the course of the campaign
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Aug 30, 2016 03:37
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Yoshifan823 posted:This is media related so I'm posting it here too: This is a real loving stupid thing for someone with a back injury to do. He's gone first or second week because the practice schedule for the people who win gets real insane. ErIog fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 03:41
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icantfindaname posted:My hometown AM radio man, who caters to racist upper middle class white flight suburbanites in suburban Milwaukee, was convinced that Hillary's latest attacks on Trump's association with alt-right neo-nazis is because she and liberals are terrified that Trump is going to show poor black people the truth that Democrats are the real racists and that welfare is the new plantation slavery. This guy, by the way, is about as orthodox a movement conservative as they come and has been super hostile to Trump over the course of the campaign "No you!" is pretty much the only come-back they have to pointing out Trump's alt-right ties.
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Aug 30, 2016 03:47
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Yoshifan823 posted:This is media related so I'm posting it here too: But will he do a routine to "Oops I did it again"?
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Aug 30, 2016 03:57
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remusclaw posted:So what does the Trump New Network look and sound like? Who does it cater too, the people who think Fox News doesn't go far enough? Are there enough of those people to drive ratings after the initial buzz wears off? If you're unfamiliar with how Trump does business, the answer is "it burns and crashes and takes everyone down who touches it except for Trump, who manages to make money during the buildup and doesn't spend any of his own on the endeavor"
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Aug 30, 2016 04:10
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FMguru posted:Yep. https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/770435705868877824 Here's the poll in question. Even Trump isn't arrogant enough to think that any actual black person is falling for his crap, but he is trying to appeal to white voters who want to vote for him, but need something rationalize themselves as "not racist" in doing so. icantfindaname posted:My hometown AM radio man, who caters to racist upper middle class white flight suburbanites in suburban Milwaukee, was convinced that Hillary's latest attacks on Trump's association with alt-right neo-nazis is because she and liberals are terrified that Trump is going to show poor black people the truth that Democrats are the real racists and that welfare is the new plantation slavery. This guy, by the way, is about as orthodox a movement conservative as they come and has been super hostile to Trump over the course of the campaign It's really pathetic how they manage to rant that the other side is so racist and then spew the most textbook racist concern trolling in the same breath.
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There are definitely black people who support trump, but they're solitary Uncle Ruckus-esque fuckers who just generally can't stand other black people. I know two of them who used to be good friends of mine that I slowly just had to move away from cause they went from reasonable cool dudes to self-loathing confederate flag wearing weirdos once Obama got elected
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Aug 30, 2016 04:21
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Chimera-gui posted:How are people so stupid to think that loving Mexico is actually going to pay for Trump's god drat wall? Let's have noted super smart puppetmaster and hynpotist master Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, explain! quote:We have around 11 million citizens of Mexico living in the United States illegally. Suppose we make them the following offer: This part is pretty hilarious. quote:I explained to some folks this morning my idea of taxing illegal immigrants to pay for the wall. I learned that some people really, really want illegal immigrants punished for breaking the law. But it won’t be hard to talk Americans into letting illegal immigrants pay for border security and stay. It’s hard to hate someone who is helping you pay your bills. He seriously doesn't understand the assholes calling for the wall are racists who don't want Mexicans in the US, whether they're paying taxes or not.
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Aug 30, 2016 07:25
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One of the few actual policy papers released by the Trump campaign tried to explain how Mexico would pay for the wall. It involved garnishing money transfers like WU and imposing tariffs on Mexican imports. It was dumb but at least workable if you have sufficient levels of imagination. They don't have a policy paper on their tax plan, by the way. Making every post office a Mexican embassy is wrong on so many levels I can't give all those ways it's wrong justice in just one post.
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Aug 30, 2016 07:38
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Antti posted:One of the few actual policy papers released by the Trump campaign tried to explain how Mexico would pay for the wall. It involved garnishing money transfers like WU and imposing tariffs on Mexican imports. It was dumb but at least workable if you have sufficient levels of imagination. Garnishing money transfers doesn't sit well with me if anything just because it seems like it's punishing the wrong people. Western Union, Moneygram, etc. make loving bank off those money transfers. It's like how the actual companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants rarely catch any heat or punishment, it's the immigrants who get all the hate and demonization.
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Aug 30, 2016 07:44
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Antti posted:Making every post office a Mexican embassy is wrong on so many levels I can't give all those ways it's wrong justice in just one post. Scott Adams being hilariously wrong about almost everything is pretty well-documented. Such as this example: quote:But Clinton just insulted 40% of American voters by calling them racists. Clinton literally – and publicly – turned on her own citizens. Apparently Mexican immigrants and Muslims are "professionals" according to Scott Adams.
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Aug 30, 2016 08:33
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Twelve by Pies posted:Let's have noted super smart puppetmaster and hynpotist master Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, explain! I dunno, I think he's really getting into the Trump spirit. What's more Trump than the TRUMP Border Wall Resort & Casino?
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FIRST TIME posted:Garnishing money transfers doesn't sit well with me if anything just because it seems like it's punishing the wrong people. Western Union, Moneygram, etc. make loving bank off those money transfers. It's like how the actual companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants rarely catch any heat or punishment, it's the immigrants who get all the hate and demonization. You sound like a member of the leftist GOP establishment with this kind of talk, my friend!
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Antti posted:Making every post office a Mexican embassy is wrong on so many levels I can't give all those ways it's wrong justice in just one post. Like, I'm pretty sure Mexico decides where its embassies are and how many it has. 
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Night10194 posted:He's really not trying to appeal to black voters (or he might be stupid enough to think he'll manage it, while his advisors know better) but rather to convince fence-sitting white voters 'No man I'm totally not racist, look, I tried to reach out and they were just so unreasonable wink wink' Of course this fails utterly when Racist And/Or Stupid White People are no longer the majority, so it's really self-defeating. Which fits in perfectly with his campaign strategy of "do the stupidest thing possible every single second of the goddamn day".
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Jazerus posted:I dunno, I think he's really getting into the Trump spirit. What's more Trump than the TRUMP Border Wall Resort & Casino? Don't forget failed marketing and products, like Trump steaks or....  
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peter banana posted:Like, I'm pretty sure Mexico decides where its embassies are and how many it has. Embassies also aren't foreign soil! This is a popular misconception. There are rules about what you can and can't do in an embassy you are hosting, but a Mexican walking into the Mexican embassy isn't suddenly magically back in Mexico. When was the last time you saw border crossings at the embassy gate?
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Nucleic Acids posted:"No you!" is pretty much the only come-back they have to pointing out Trump's alt-right ties. 
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FIRST TIME posted:Garnishing money transfers doesn't sit well with me if anything just because it seems like it's punishing the wrong people. Western Union, Moneygram, etc. make loving bank off those money transfers. It's like how the actual companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants rarely catch any heat or punishment, it's the immigrants who get all the hate and demonization. Most of the right wing knows our agricultural sector would, if not collapse, then at least take a massive downturn if we actually prosecuted everyone who hired illegal immigrants. Even most legal Hispanic immigrants and natives won't take those jobs, and certainly no white people, and these companies sure as hell aren't going to improve conditions and pay and working hours and all that to the point of making the jobs attractive to people who have some choice. In many cases it's slavery in all but name, and it's happening right under our noses.
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Cythereal posted:Most of the right wing knows our agricultural sector would, if not collapse, then at least take a massive downturn if we actually prosecuted everyone who hired illegal immigrants. Restaurant industry, too.
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icantfindaname posted:My hometown AM radio man, who caters to racist upper middle class white flight suburbanites in suburban Milwaukee, was convinced that Hillary's latest attacks on Trump's association with alt-right neo-nazis is because she and liberals are terrified that Trump is going to show poor black people the truth that Democrats are the real racists and that welfare is the new plantation slavery. This guy, by the way, is about as orthodox a movement conservative as they come and has been super hostile to Trump over the course of the campaign I was really hoping someone would kill Charlie Sykes after the recent riots.
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Aug 30, 2016 15:23
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WampaLord posted:Restaurant industry, too. And hurt the big super markets that people live off of, and wal-mart sure as poo poo isn't going to let its prices go up.
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Not Right Wing Radio: Hello Friends, my local "liberal" AM station just changed schedules so that our local afternoon drive time guy was moved and replaced by the Leslie Marshall Show. I've never really heard of Leslie Marshall and I find the show to be a bit grating to listen to. Is there any reason I should give it more of a chance?
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Cythereal posted:Most of the right wing knows our agricultural sector would, if not collapse, then at least take a massive downturn if we actually prosecuted everyone who hired illegal immigrants. Even most legal Hispanic immigrants and natives won't take those jobs, and certainly no white people, and these companies sure as hell aren't going to improve conditions and pay and working hours and all that to the point of making the jobs attractive to people who have some choice. In many cases it's slavery in all but name, and it's happening right under our noses. Yup. Illegal immigrants are the new slave class in the US and, despite how much they love to use them as boogeymen, higher up conservatives know it. The real reason they oppose any attempt at immigration reform, besides the ever-useful bigotry, is that them becoming citizens removes their ability to hold deportation over their heads to keep them in horrible jobs that nobody else would ever do. So the Republicans were carefully trying to keep their base against them, but ensure that they didn't have to actually do anything about the situation until Trump came in and, as with most things, took their positions to their logical, horrible endpoint with his rhetoric.
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Geostomp posted:Yup. Illegal immigrants are the new slave class in the US and, despite how much they love to use them as boogeymen, higher up conservatives know it. The real reason they oppose any attempt at immigration reform, besides the ever-useful bigotry, is that them becoming citizens removes their ability to hold deportation over their heads to keep them in horrible jobs that nobody else would ever do. So the Republicans were carefully trying to keep their base against them, but ensure that they didn't have to actually do anything about the situation until Trump came in and, as with most things, took their positions to their logical, horrible endpoint with his rhetoric. Yeah the people in power know that Illegal Immigration isn't the problem they are characterizing it as but the base totally has bought into the lie. This is much like every other scam regarding the Republican platform and the chickens are starting to come home to roost first in the form of the Tea Party and now in Trump running wild. There's only so much you can tell people that stuff is destroying the country without actually doing anything about it.
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Aug 30, 2016 16:16
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Twelve by Pies posted:Let's have noted super smart puppetmaster and hynpotist master Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert, explain! Lol that proposal can combine the aspects of two famous walls -- you get the Great Wall of China where part of the mortar are the poor souls who worked on the drat thing and also the Nights Watch keeping constant vigilance over the Brown Walkers. I wonder what other proposals the Worlds Most Divorced Man has for us
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But you guys don't need, like, food, right?quote:About a quarter of the U.S. farm workforce, more than 300,000 people, don’t have valid immigration papers, according to a 2009 survey by the Pew Hispanic Center. Other studies suggest the number may be more than 1 million. Proportions of undocumented workers tend to be higher in the hand-harvested fruit, vegetable and horticulture sectors, as well as large dairy farms where milking happens year-round. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-06-06/crops-rot-while-trump-led-immigration-backlash-idles-farm-lobby
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Not Right Wing Radio: Hello Friends, my local "liberal" AM station just changed schedules so that our local afternoon drive time guy was moved and replaced by the Leslie Marshall Show. I haven't heard her show since Buffalo's 1520 dropped liberal talk for sports. At night 1520 was a nice change from the usual conservative and sports talk that usually skips in. All I remember about her show is it was nothing special, not particularly bad but nothing sets it apart either. She must only have like 5 affiliates at this point, liberal AM radio is all but dead.
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Some years ago there was a rural county in (I think) Georgia that got so panicked about "illegals" that they did follow through and swept them all up and deported them...whereupon the entire economy cratered because 1) all the crops rotted in the fields because there was no one to pick them and 2) local shops and apartments lost a ton of money because it turns out that even undocumented workers spend money on food and beer and gasoline and lotto scratchers and rent.
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What's been the RWM spin on Colin Kaepernick? I've only been listening to sports radio and it's blown up. Personally, I don't have a problem with him or what he's doing but this feels like a "Dixie Chicks" or "Lapel Pin" thing all over again. The sort of poo poo conservatives eat up.
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BiggerBoat posted:What's been the RWM spin on Colin Kaepernick? I've only been listening to sports radio and it's blown up. Personally, I don't have a problem with him or what he's doing but this feels like a "Dixie Chicks" or "Lapel Pin" thing all over again. The sort of poo poo conservatives eat up. It's an excuse to be openly racist basically.
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Radish posted:It's an excuse to be openly racist basically. It is this. They don't actually care about the supposed American values of free speech--'you'd better be a loving cheerleader for the stars and stripes 24/7 buddy or you can move to fuckin canada!' This love it or leave it poo poo really pisses me off.
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BiggerBoat posted:What's been the RWM spin on Colin Kaepernick? I've only been listening to sports radio and it's blown up. Personally, I don't have a problem with him or what he's doing but this feels like a "Dixie Chicks" or "Lapel Pin" thing all over again. The sort of poo poo conservatives eat up.
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FMguru posted:Some years ago there was a rural county in (I think) Georgia that got so panicked about "illegals" that they did follow through and swept them all up and deported them...whereupon the entire economy cratered because 1) all the crops rotted in the fields because there was no one to pick them and 2) local shops and apartments lost a ton of money because it turns out that even undocumented workers spend money on food and beer and gasoline and lotto scratchers and rent. it was a state law passed in georgia in 2011 hilariously, alabama, a state which borders georgia, passed a similar law after the 2011 harvest and you can guess what happened to alabama in 2012
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