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Here we go again I am ready for another three pages of poo poo posts about who likes whatGlitchThief posted:So just to be clear, the top VGC players are definitely hacking their Pokemon, right? That's what it means when one of them drops something like "you can't hack skill"? I find it hard to believe people in the VGC have the patience to SR their restricteds until they have the right IVs and Natures. Regular mons I can see it going either way but no one has the patience for legendaries, especially when they're ubiquitous
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 he's a yugioh protagonist, making him the best i activate close combat, wrecking your poo poo
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Aug 30, 2016 19:55
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Internet Kraken posted:Gallade is dumb and bad. Male Krilia deserve to be fabulous by becoming Gardevoirs. male kirlia can still become gardevoirs, if you just keep leveling them instead of using the dawn stone
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Aug 30, 2016 19:57
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Bongo Bill posted:Everything I like is bad, everything you like is good. same but the oppos- wait what???????
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Aug 30, 2016 19:57
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Kerrrrrrr posted:it looks really stupid Don't be jealous just cause your squat game is inferior to Gallade.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:00
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Oh, christ, that thing had TWO evolutions?!
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Aug 30, 2016 20:04
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i still don't understand why people hate vanillite other than "it's an ice cream cone!!!!"
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Aug 30, 2016 20:07
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yeah vanille is fun. i mean i would never use it because it's an ice type, but if i did i would call it "mr. whippy"
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Aug 30, 2016 20:09
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I know the TCGO thread is dead, but I just back into the cardgame too and in TCGO I pulled two Shaymin-EXes, holy poo poo!! Too bad they're not real ones or else I could sell them for $60+ a pop.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:10
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Ice/Steel flash fire mega vanilluxe hot fudge sundae is the ice cream of my dreams
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Gammatron 64 posted:I know the TCGO thread is dead, but I just back into the cardgame too and in TCGO I pulled two Shaymin-EXes, holy poo poo!! Even when i played the tcgo a lot i didn't really use that thread as a personal blog about my tcgo experiences so I only really post there to reply to other people. Grats on your digital shaymin-ex's though! And enjoy using them for another year because they didn't rotate  oh wait I'm talking about this thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762238&pagenumber=1 (please post in my thread, or tell me what you would like to see in it) Zoness fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Aug 30, 2016 20:12
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I think Slurpuff is actually the pokemon-version of Marnie the dog  not sure how anyone can hate that goober 
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Aug 30, 2016 20:15
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no self respecting goon should hate slurpuff because belly drum slurpuff is like the epitome of goon sets which reminds me of another use for IV's - adjusting hp values for belly drum and half hp berries.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:21
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:yeah vanille is fun. i mean i would never use it because it's an ice type, but if i did i would call it "mr. whippy" I had one in Black version called Foreigner that I tried to use for a little bit, but because It Is An Ice Type, it would basically only survive more than a single hit from anything if its defense was boosted several times from Acid Armor. 
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Aug 30, 2016 20:22
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Zoness posted:Even when i played the tcgo a lot i didn't really use that thread as a personal blog about my tcgo experiences so I only really post there to reply to other people. Oh I didn't realize there was another one. I was referring to the one Mercury Crusader made that's now archived.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Oh I didn't realize there was another one. I was referring to the one Mercury Crusader made that's now archived. i didn't know there was an old one  I kind of picked up the game from talking to someone who works on it.
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Zoness posted:i didn't know there was an old one It was in the OP of the last thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3572534 Well, now I know there's a new one at least!
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Aug 30, 2016 20:27
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being mean to the exploud line is illegal, for the record
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Aug 30, 2016 20:28
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What generations is mewtwo catchable in
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Aug 30, 2016 20:30
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When B/W first came out I thought Vanilluxe was one of the worst pokemon ever. Now he's my favorite ice type. I dunno why but the dumb thing grew on me. Calaveron posted:What generations is mewtwo catchable in Red/Blue, FireRed/LeafGreen, HeartGold/SoulSilver, and X/Y.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:30
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I can never hate Vanilluxe because of this comic
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Aug 30, 2016 20:33
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It sounds like VGC uses a restrictive format that all-but requires cheating to compete in. Given that Smogon has competitive tiers and Showdown lets you just enter the values you want anyway, it sounds to my noob ears like that is the more fun way to play. Maybe I'll give it a look after I beat Sun.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:33
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GlitchThief posted:It sounds like VGC uses a restrictive format that all-but requires cheating to compete in. Given that Smogon has competitive tiers and Showdown lets you just enter the values you want anyway, it sounds to my noob ears like that is the more fun way to play. The format VGC uses changes by season, When its not a stupid one where legendaries are allowed to run rampant, its not hard to make a proper team without hacking.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:35
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More poo poo opinions: I've never cared about Goodra, I feel it's a step back design-wise. Its first two stages are super adorable, and then it shits the bed and becomes a fat anime. 
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GlitchThief posted:It sounds like VGC uses a restrictive format that all-but requires cheating to compete in. uh no not really
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Aug 30, 2016 20:37
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Yeah I would say VGC really only "promotes" cheating by allowing in a set of legendaries. So the IV + nature struggle, to make it competitive... You can imagine the obvious solution there.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:37
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I regret that on this replay of XY I set out to use Pokemon I had never used before, rather than banking in a level 5 team of the most elegant mons around Gardevoir, Milotic, Froslass, Lilligant, Meowstic and Garchomp
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Aug 30, 2016 20:39
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Brother Entropy posted:uh no not really Well I guess you could put in all the time to be competitive with a bunch of other people who cheat.
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Pentaro posted:More poo poo opinions: I've never cared about Goodra, I feel it's a step back design-wise. Its first two stages are super adorable, and then it shits the bed and becomes a fat anime. Goodra is the worst. I like Goomy and think Sliggoo is super adorable and amazing. One of my favorite designs. Then instead of continuing with the snail theme, it turns into a pink goopy version of Dragonite. It doesn't even keep its little slimy shell! Sometimes I'm tempted to come up with an eviolite Sligoo strat but I know it wouldn't effective at all in doubles.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:41
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GlitchThief posted:Well I guess you could put in all the time to be competitive with a bunch of other people who cheat. the only difference between a legit pokemon that was bred or resetted for a billion times to get and a hacked but still vgc legal pokemon is how much time it took to get
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Brother Entropy posted:the only difference between a legit pokemon that was bred or resetted for a billion times to get and a hacked but still vgc legal pokemon is how much time it took to get I'm merely the student here, so forgive me for asking, but if I went to a VGC event and just before facing off I told a judge, "By the way, all my Pokemon are generated from outside the game; who has time for this poo poo" what would be the event-legal response?
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Aug 30, 2016 20:46
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Calaveron posted:What generations is mewtwo catchable in ...I actually forgot you couldn't catch him in regular GSC, there's just the Berserk Gene in the water nearby, so it's a good thing I looked it up!
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Aug 30, 2016 20:46
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there is a software-based hackmon checker which is basically the means by which your pokemon are deemed legal or not
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Aug 30, 2016 20:47
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Zoness posted:there is a software-based hackmon checker which is basically the means by which your pokemon are deemed legal or not That's pretty cool. Is it just checking for impossible Pokemon, or does it actually have a way to tell if a Pokemon has been hacked in?
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Zoness posted:there is a software-based hackmon checker which is basically the means by which your pokemon are deemed legal or not
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I'm not not sure there are some basically impossible pokemon (based on pokemon/ability/pokeball it's in) that are allowed by the hack checker, but it can catch pokemon that otherwise are legal in terms of moves, ability, stats but have some wrong bits set in the data I believe anything that would have an illegal stat/move/ability would definitely be thrown out, but the pokeball thing is weird. Having messed a bit with pokegen to play around with ubers on gen 4 cartridges (gen 4 ruleset  ), there are definitely some bits in a pokemon's data that don't have a strict correspondence to any externally visible data on the pokemon, which I believe act as a checksum for the rest of the pokemon's data.Any pokemon made with in-game methods, including rng manipulation (as opposed to generated bitwise) and probably by breeding with a generated/prng'd ditto, should always pass a hack check. Zoness fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:yeah vanille is fun. i mean i would never use it because it's an ice type, but if i did i would call it "mr. whippy" This was my favorite ice evolution line for a while so I name a few different ones different flavors of ice cream I have a lvl 100 Pistachio and wonder traded away a lvl 98 Rocky Road 
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for example, this guy used an aegislash that while for all battling purposes was legal had an impossible pokemon/ball combination (but could have been bred from a generated pokemon and therefore not generated itself) and it passed the hack checker: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/07/controversy_arises_at_us_pokemon_nationals_with_regards_to_cheating (he also didn't win with it) vvv yeah same incident Zoness fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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That link is blocked for me, but I was doing my own reading and found this, which I presume is the same incident. It sounds like the players get a lot of deniability due to the undetectability of the legitimacy of a Pokemon's parents. And yeah, I get it. Pokemon trading is a thing, a BIG part of the game, so of course you're not gonna go into a tournament with like, a family tree for each of your Pokemon. It still sounds, to my uneducated brain, like they do regard hacking in Pokemon as cheating though. I mean apparently it was a big deal when it turned out one of these guys even might have been in association with someone who hacked in the process of breeding out one of his Pokemon.
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Cheating should be allowed.
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