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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Gilgamesh is basically the main character of FF5 as far as spinoffs go. But really when it comes to like FF6 I think most people don't consider Terra the most memorable at all for example Terra's absolutely the 'lead' character. She's the one you begin playing as, the one the plot revolves around even when she isn't in your party, and even if you don't recruit her in FF6's endgame she returns in the ending. The finale of the end is the dramatic "is Terra alive or dead?!" thing.
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how can terra be the lead when she doesn't do the train meme
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Aug 30, 2016 19:16
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Gilgamesh is basically the main character of FF5 as far as spinoffs go. But really when it comes to like FF6 I think most people don't consider Terra the most memorable at all for example When the "main" character's an amnesiac whose specialty is just casting magic it's easy to get overshadowed by a guy that dons a hockey mask when attacking with a chainsaw, a guy that can suplex trains, a dancing moogle, or a wild boy you find roaming the veldt.
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Aug 30, 2016 19:17
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Nobody remembers Gau
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Aug 30, 2016 19:19
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I remember Gau because he's probably the singularly most overpowered broken Final Fantasy character ever and easily in the top 10 most broken JRPG characters.
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Aug 30, 2016 19:26
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Tellah died for your spoony sins.
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Aug 30, 2016 19:27
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ImpAtom posted:I remember Gau because he's probably the singularly most overpowered broken Final Fantasy character ever and easily in the top 10 most broken JRPG characters. Yeah, turns out "Magic Berserker" is loving nuts when you can mostly control what magic they're using without a resource
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Aug 30, 2016 19:31
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Gilgamesh is basically the main character of FF5 as far as spinoffs go. But really when it comes to like FF6 I think most people don't consider Terra the most memorable at all for example counterpoint: Vaan is boring and dumb
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Aug 30, 2016 19:36
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Y'shtola  Anyone else from FF14 
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Aug 30, 2016 19:54
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Terper posted:Y'shtola Minfilia. Yeah, I'll take the snarky cat.
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Aug 30, 2016 19:55
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For what it's worth I haven't played since my first thirty days were up
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Aug 30, 2016 19:58
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should've been godbert tbh
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Aug 30, 2016 20:01
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Terper posted:For what it's worth I haven't played since my first thirty days were up Yda is the girl you want to represent FF14.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:07
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General Morden posted:should've been godbert tbh The game needs a semblance of balance.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:07
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godbert not utilizing his full potential godbert not embracing the power of the murderous intent not so serious mr. godbert
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Aug 30, 2016 20:13
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 That's our Malboro! *laughtrack* 
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Aug 30, 2016 20:13
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is that billy herrington
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Aug 30, 2016 20:21
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I could see Hildebrand as a second FF14 rep, actually. Guy's pretty drat popular last I played and the game could use another comic relief type like Greg.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:22
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General Morden posted:is that billy herrington Nah, he's on his world tour. I don't think anyone has embraced his weird internet fame more. 
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Aug 30, 2016 20:25
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I would assume a 2nd rep from any game will have to be a villain to counterpart the hero rep. Probably Gaius or maybe Lahabrea.
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Aug 30, 2016 20:26
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Nyx's rear end for Dissidia imo
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Aug 30, 2016 20:32
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What's the thing next to the lamp?
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Aug 30, 2016 21:00
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ImpAtom posted:Terra's absolutely the 'lead' character. She's the one you begin playing as, the one the plot revolves around even when she isn't in your party, and even if you don't recruit her in FF6's endgame she returns in the ending. The finale of the end is the dramatic "is Terra alive or dead?!" thing. I've never played past meeting Gestahl but up to that point she's like the only character of any importance to the plot whatsoever.
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Aug 30, 2016 21:03
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I think Terra's problem with feeling "Memorable" come down the route split, spending until Zozo out of the active party, and then even when she's back having her story be "What is love?" And then the World of Ruin happens. She's absolutely the main character, but she's not very memorable, her personality is very low key compared to Edgar, Locke or Sabin.
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Aug 30, 2016 21:08
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To bring up age-old arguments about the main character of FF6, people get thrown off when the WoR hits and suddenly Celes is the new PoV character. Celes's personal story still isn't central to the plot though, rather she's the catalyst for bringing everyone back together. The ending focuses much more on resolving Terra's storyline than the others, and the second half of the ending in particular focuses primarily on her. Plus the main theme of the game is finding love, which pretty much every character does in the WoR (Celes looking for Locke, Locke trying to revive his dead girlfriend, Cyan dealing with the loss of his family while protecting the Maranda woman from discovering her loss, family love with Edgar/Sabin, Strago/Relm/Shadow, and Gau/Insane Old Man, Umaro's love of sitting on the bench, and so on), and Terra is the focus point of that theme all the way through, including her resolution of becoming a mother figure for a bunch of abandoned orphans and a couple of horny teenagers. The main character is Terra.
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Aug 30, 2016 21:12
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Yeah, the WoR plot is basically: Terra wakes up Getting Terra to the Returners. The Returners try to get Terra to Narshe. Oh no! Terra is missing. We have to find her. We found Terra, now we have to rescue the Espers (including her father) Terra wakes up, the Returners ask her to talk to the Espers. She does, the Espers go batshit Ghestal asks Terra to negotiate a peace treaty with the Espers. Hahaha, turns out he's a poo poo! Oh no, everything explodes! Her importance dies off somewhat in the WoR where the plot becomes "kick Kefka in the junk" but even there she's the character with the absolute closest connection to the central plot and the major threat of defeating Kefka ("it will end magic") applies meaningfully only to her.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, the WoR plot is basically: And I didn't know until I watch a tas, that even if you don't visit Terra in the World of Ruins, she will still show up for the ending.
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Aug 30, 2016 21:25
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Also iirc, the dudes making Dissidia didn't want to just flat out use villains for the Chaos side they wanted character rivalries, people with a known relationship to the character so there was something more to it. It kind of begs why Ultimecia's in it, but I can very easily see them not wanting to do Seifer's shtick for the game.
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anothergod posted:I remember playing Dissidia on PSP and being pretty peeved that we only got "the heroes" and "villains". There are so many other interesting characters in Final Fantasy, but the pretty hero/villain thing just is so.... boring. Off the top of my head I can think of: Sabin, Balthier, Fran, a moogle (Cait Sith?), Vivi, Red XII, Barett, Biggs and Wedge (IN MAGITECH ARMOR?!?), Bahamut, Odin, Vincent, any of the weirdos from FFX, Atma Weapon, Chupon, Motherfucking Ultros (maybe Ultros and Chupon together?), Gilgamesh, BAMF General Leo, FuSoYa/Tellah, Porom/Palom, etc. Aye. Ugh. Why. Are they fixing that for Dissidia? Nobody gets hype for Mario in Smash Bros.... nobody gets hype for Blooper or Impa in smash either
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Aug 30, 2016 21:48
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Vincent is awful. why would anybody want to play as him?
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Aug 30, 2016 21:50
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It's kinda amusing that Cloud's been in three different fighting game franchises.
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Brother Entropy posted:FF4's identical superfluous old wizard stereotypes tfw u invented the archetypes (barring tellah) and then used them so hard over the next twenty-five years that the game u invented them in is now considered cliche
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Baal posted:Also iirc, the dudes making Dissidia didn't want to just flat out use villains for the Chaos side they wanted character rivalries, people with a known relationship to the character so there was something more to it. It kind of begs why Ultimecia's in it, but I can very easily see them not wanting to do Seifer's shtick for the game. Because Rinoa is Ultimecia, Duh
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I like how Tellah is the end result of what Cecil would've been if he stayed a Dark Knight. Well, theoretically since even as a bringer of death and devastation to all Cecil was still a goody-two-shoes. I still really like FF4's story in general. I could probably spend an entire day talking about how much I like it.
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Mega64 posted:I like how Tellah is the end result of what Cecil would've been if he stayed a Dark Knight. Dead?
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Mega64 posted:To bring up age-old arguments about the main character of FF6, people get thrown off when the WoR hits and suddenly Celes is the new PoV character. Celes's personal story still isn't central to the plot though, rather she's the catalyst for bringing everyone back together. The ending focuses much more on resolving Terra's storyline than the others, and the second half of the ending in particular focuses primarily on her. Plus the main theme of the game is finding love, which pretty much every character does in the WoR (Celes looking for Locke, Locke trying to revive his dead girlfriend, Cyan dealing with the loss of his family while protecting the Maranda woman from discovering her loss, family love with Edgar/Sabin, Strago/Relm/Shadow, and Gau/Insane Old Man, Umaro's love of sitting on the bench, and so on), and Terra is the focus point of that theme all the way through, including her resolution of becoming a mother figure for a bunch of abandoned orphans and a couple of horny teenagers.
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Mega64 posted:I like how Tellah is the end result of what Cecil would've been if he stayed a Dark Knight. Well, theoretically since even as a bringer of death and devastation to all Cecil was still a goody-two-shoes. I agree. Tellah was hands down my favorite FFIV character. His arc and involvement just felt really well done and believable. Cocksmith posted:Vincent is awful. why would anybody want to play as him? Because he's probably one of the most popular VII characters which is quite impressive considering he's optional. It's kinda funny. Something I noticed when thinking about Amarant in FFIX, I wanted to liken him to other F party members. There really aren't many of the "dark, aloof, mysterious loners " n the series. There's Shadow, there's Vincent, there's Amarant and...that's it.
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Varance posted:Ishimoto's Soundcloud page continues to deliver the Dissidia goods: https://soundcloud.com/takeharu-ishimoto/god-in-fire-orchestra-version-from-dissidia-final-fantasy-arcade This is original for Dissidia, right? This isn't from a game?
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