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cheetah7071 posted:I like that it takes a bit of time to add a pokemon to a competitive team because it makes you more attached to them. The time time investment it currently takes is way too much though This is a reflection of the deep bond a winning trainer develops with his monsters, yes
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the thing is gym leaders aren't designed to take any effort on the player's part, especially not to the point where the battle being doubles would make a real difference
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Aug 30, 2016 23:03
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I would probably cry if they take away reusable TMs
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Aug 30, 2016 23:04
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cheetah7071 posted:I like that it takes a bit of time to add a pokemon to a competitive team because it makes you more attached to them. The time time investment it currently takes is way too much though if you want to go the RP angle, how does mercilessly breeding and discarding ten thousand dudes get you to feel attached to them? id rather just play through the game, do some leveling up and hey, lookit this! my playthrough guy might win a video game contest that's a let's play story imo. ninty, please let us play
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Zoness posted:the thing is gym leaders aren't designed to take any effort on the player's part, especially not to the point where the battle being doubles would make a real difference they should be used to introduce the player how to play pokemon though, and double differs significantly from singles. Like, this isn't a 'make pokemon harder!!!' thing. I just feel the base game does a very poor job of even introducing how to play doubles, which is the official battle type you have to play competitively. If doubles are that important, they should be a large part of the single-player game imo. Or they should do 6v6 singles for official tourneys. Like, there are a ton of random gimmicky battle types now. And you get in roughly the same number of them as you do double battles so it feels like a weird afterthought. I'm pretty sure X/Y had more Sky Battles than Double Battles even.
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Zore posted:Or they should do 6v6 singles for official tourneys. it takes way too long and also some would say is not as fun to watch
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Aug 30, 2016 23:07
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i was pretty sure battle subway had both singles and doubles settings and it was how you got most of the good postgame items so v v.
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Aug 30, 2016 23:07
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oddium posted:it takes way too long and also some would say is not as fun to watch How does 6v6 take too long? Like maybe in ADV or GSC but the days of omnipresent-stall are long gone and tournaments that allow things like Mega-Khan, Mega-Mence, Mega-Blaziken, Mega-Lucario etc. are not going to have very drawn out matches. Zoness posted:i was pretty sure battle subway had both singles and doubles settings and it was how you got most of the good postgame items so v Yeah, and that isn't really teaching you how to play at that point. You assume a base level of competence in those and the main game does a piss-poor job of communicating 'hey this is an important, and distinctive, format. Here's how stuff is different'.
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I would totally love a more challenging single player experience with different 'rules' for wild mons, rando trainers, Bad Team ____ trainers, and Pokemon League matches. I still don't know how if I would play or without reusable TMs 
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Aug 30, 2016 23:10
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imagine singles with vgc 2016 rules
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Zoness posted:imagine singles with vgc 2016 rules imagine doubles with vgc 2016 rules it was a terrible ruleset for any format, singles would not have made it worse
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Aug 30, 2016 23:12
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Does a hatched mon in a luxury ball get the bonus?
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Aug 30, 2016 23:12
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Rygar201 posted:Does a hatched mon in a luxury ball get the bonus? Yeah, that's inherent to the ball.
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Zore posted:imagine doubles with vgc 2016 rules it would have made it worse by virtue of being singles and not doubles
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mega rayquaza is an unstoppable monster in singles not literally unstoppable but he has so many strong sets that he is an insane murder machine Zoness fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Aug 30, 2016 |
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Zore posted:Like maybe in ADV or GSC but the days of omnipresent-stall are long gone and tournaments that allow things like Mega-Khan, Mega-Mence, Mega-Blaziken, Mega-Lucario etc. are not going to have very drawn out matches. adding four more pokemon and then halving the number on the field is inherently longer, and it adds up in a tournament setting
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Aug 30, 2016 23:15
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give me competitive dress up
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sharrrk posted:give me competitive dress up this, I would actually compete in.
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sharrrk posted:give me competitive dress up
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oddium posted:adding four more pokemon and then halving the number on the field is inherently longer, and it adds up in a tournament setting True. Currently most VGC matches last, what, roughly 12-18 minutes?
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Aug 30, 2016 23:19
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cheetah7071 posted:I like that it takes a bit of time to add a pokemon to a competitive team because it makes you more attached to them. The time time investment it currently takes is way too much though I love my 1s and 0s that some random dude or lady programmed for less pay than they probably deserved.
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Aug 30, 2016 23:25
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Isn't allowing legendaries admitting you're allowing hacked mons in your event?
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a short singles match on cartridge is like 18 minutes
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Rygar201 posted:Isn't allowing legendaries admitting you're allowing hacked mons in your event? no you admit that by saying 'we're allowing hack mons at our event'
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Rygar201 posted:Isn't allowing legendaries admitting you're allowing hacked mons in your event? Not really, there are a ton of people who SR for Legendaries. People in the last thread posted about it constantly a few months ago. Hell I've SR'd for decent (correct nature) Legendaries even though I'll literally never use them. Plus in Gen VI they're guaranteed to come with 3 perfect IVs, so as long as you're willing to put even an hour in you can usually get one that has the correct nature and at least 4/6 stats maxed out.
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They should just release like a free tournament download if you have the current generation or something. Like Ali mons, choose nature, values, and moves. Just separately they single player experience from the tournament stuff.
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Aug 30, 2016 23:29
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Been running a 5 Ludicolos 1 Sudowoodo team on Showdown and I've made at least three people forfeit thanks to them not expecting a Ludicolo to know Ice Punch.
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Rygar201 posted:They should just release like a free tournament download if you have the current generation or something. Like Ali mons, choose nature, values, and moves. Just separately they single player experience from the tournament stuff. This will never happen Even more than 'man I wish my favorite old feature was back', this is something I don't think Nintendo would ever do. Its like the antithesis to the entire series.
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Aug 30, 2016 23:33
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You lost both me and Nintendo at the word "free". Maybe you can earn it with coins on our new Nintendo IP Service. Seriously though, I just want rental pokemon again. They were so close when they let you co-op with NPCs for the maison, but not quite there and the maison needed more formats.
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Just got off the phone with the boss. Cheating is allowed now.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I know, right? Nintendo is really, really bad at making actual competitive games. There's another Nintendo game series out there that people like to pretend is a serious competitive game, but I dare not mention its name because it's huge a can of worms. You all know what I am referring to, though. Hey gently caress you, Competitive Super Metroid is incredible.
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I was a pro Pikmin player until my precious children were devoured by a Bulbmin and I never recovered emotionally.
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Let's just say that I am coming back to Pokemon from I don't know, Red and Blue, dabbled in Silver. Is there a non-encyclopedia form of information from all the new stuff or do I just need to scour Serebii and bulbapedia? Like holy poo poo there's like 40 different balls, so many new pokemon, items to be held, certain pokemon only evolve holding certain things at certain times; all of which throw me cause I enjoyed trying to fill the pokedex on the old games but theres 600+ more of them to catch. I'm looking for a laymans guide to all the new balls, items, and evolutions. I have read that an easy way to catch a lot of pokemon are either quick balls right away or a pokemon with False Swipe. I picked up X a while back but real life took over so I'm finally trying to out and quickly overloaded with all the new info.
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CanUSayGym posted:Let's just say that I am coming back to Pokemon from I don't know, Red and Blue, dabbled in Silver. Is there a non-encyclopedia form of information from all the new stuff or do I just need to scour Serebii and bulbapedia? Like holy poo poo there's like 40 different balls, so many new pokemon, items to be held, certain pokemon only evolve holding certain things at certain times; all of which throw me cause I enjoyed trying to fill the pokedex on the old games but theres 600+ more of them to catch. I'm looking for a laymans guide to all the new balls, items, and evolutions. I have read that an easy way to catch a lot of pokemon are either quick balls right away or a pokemon with False Swipe. I picked up X a while back but real life took over so I'm finally trying to out and quickly overloaded with all the new info. Bulbapedia is probably the easiest resource.
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CanUSayGym posted:Let's just say that I am coming back to Pokemon from I don't know, Red and Blue, dabbled in Silver. Is there a non-encyclopedia form of information from all the new stuff or do I just need to scour Serebii and bulbapedia? Like holy poo poo there's like 40 different balls, so many new pokemon, items to be held, certain pokemon only evolve holding certain things at certain times; all of which throw me cause I enjoyed trying to fill the pokedex on the old games but theres 600+ more of them to catch. I'm looking for a laymans guide to all the new balls, items, and evolutions. I have read that an easy way to catch a lot of pokemon are either quick balls right away or a pokemon with False Swipe. I picked up X a while back but real life took over so I'm finally trying to out and quickly overloaded with all the new info. honestly your best bet is to just not stress about it and play X and slowly absorb new info as it crops up remember that this is a series for 7 year olds so by no means do you need to know all this poo poo just to have fun
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CanUSayGym posted:Let's just say that I am coming back to Pokemon from I don't know, Red and Blue, dabbled in Silver. Is there a non-encyclopedia form of information from all the new stuff or do I just need to scour Serebii and bulbapedia? Like holy poo poo there's like 40 different balls, so many new pokemon, items to be held, certain pokemon only evolve holding certain things at certain times; all of which throw me cause I enjoyed trying to fill the pokedex on the old games but theres 600+ more of them to catch. I'm looking for a laymans guide to all the new balls, items, and evolutions. I have read that an easy way to catch a lot of pokemon are either quick balls right away or a pokemon with False Swipe. I picked up X a while back but real life took over so I'm finally trying to out and quickly overloaded with all the new info. Honestly, Serebii and Bulbapedia are the best options outside of just playing the games. I know it sounds super condescending to just say "Just PLAY the GAME" but like...it's a pretty good teacher, all things considered! It does a good job of holding your hand for all the basic stuff they added. As for the new stuff, Dusk Balls and only playing after 6PM is one of the best ways. Quick Balls at the start are alright but with actual damage and status effects, you get ONE maybe TWO throws most of the time.
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also talk to all the npcs in town, every pokemon is game is someone's first so those rando unimportant npcs will dripfeed you info that's not immediately obvious, especially in the early parts of the game
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sharrrk posted:give me competitive dress up i actually enjoyed the pokemon contests with all the moves being classified as 'beautiful' or 'cool' or whatever and the whole minigame attached to that
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CanUSayGym posted:Let's just say that I am coming back to Pokemon from I don't know, Red and Blue, dabbled in Silver. Is there a non-encyclopedia form of information from all the new stuff or do I just need to scour Serebii and bulbapedia? Like holy poo poo there's like 40 different balls, so many new pokemon, items to be held, certain pokemon only evolve holding certain things at certain times; all of which throw me cause I enjoyed trying to fill the pokedex on the old games but theres 600+ more of them to catch. I'm looking for a laymans guide to all the new balls, items, and evolutions. I have read that an easy way to catch a lot of pokemon are either quick balls right away or a pokemon with False Swipe. I picked up X a while back but real life took over so I'm finally trying to out and quickly overloaded with all the new info. just keep playing and you'll internalize a lot of it and realize some of it just isn't that important
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CanUSayGym posted:Let's just say that I am coming back to Pokemon from I don't know, Red and Blue, dabbled in Silver. Is there a non-encyclopedia form of information from all the new stuff or do I just need to scour Serebii and bulbapedia? Like holy poo poo there's like 40 different balls, so many new pokemon, items to be held, certain pokemon only evolve holding certain things at certain times; all of which throw me cause I enjoyed trying to fill the pokedex on the old games but theres 600+ more of them to catch. I'm looking for a laymans guide to all the new balls, items, and evolutions. I have read that an easy way to catch a lot of pokemon are either quick balls right away or a pokemon with False Swipe. I picked up X a while back but real life took over so I'm finally trying to out and quickly overloaded with all the new info. Honestly, not really. Most of it is cruft you don't need to know right away. Big tips on catching pokemon; Throw a Quick Ball turn 1 for a decent chance of catching a pokemon. Besides that, using Dusk Balls at night or when inside/in a cave are going to be your best general purpose balls. None of the others are really worth worrying about unless you like the aesthetic. There are a fuckton of items, most of them kinda worthless. Ones to look out for because they're super common (most of this really only matters in competitive play. Don't stress about hold items till then except maybe the Lucky Egg/Amulet Coin); Lucky Egg-increases exp gained Amulet Coin- Doubles money from battle Leftovers- restores 1/16th of a pokemon's HP every round Choice Scarf/Band/Specs- Increases pokemon speed/attack/special attack by 1.5x but locks them into the first move they used until you switch out Assault Vest- Sp. Def x 1.5 but you can only use attacking moves Sitrus Berry- when pokemon falls below 25% health, it eats this to restore 25% Megastones- Allow for megaevolution Expert Belt- If a move is super effective it hits for 1.2x damage Life Orb- All your pokemon's attacks are 1.3x more powerful. They take 10% damage every turn they use an attacking move Evolutions are still almost all by level. Bulbapedia has a list of pokemon's various methods of evolution here http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Methods_of_evolution Happiness is a thing that affects how strong the move Return and Frustration are and also when high causes some pokemon to evolve. Pokemon gain happiness by leveling up, walking around with them in your party or using items on them. Uh, that's pretty much the most barebones basic guide I got. There is a lot of depth and nuance you'll pick up over time though. Zore fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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