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TheRat posted:In case you havent read it, https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715146 Yep I had that linked to me a week back. Has anyone played with it is it near d3 smoothness when shits going crazy?
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Holyshoot posted:Yep I had that linked to me a week back. Has anyone played with it is it near d3 smoothness when shits going crazy? The particle effects havent been available yet so I havent tried those, but the multithreading is pretty massive yeah. It still wasnt d3 when I was coc discharging a billion mobs but it was much much better. And that was a beta version so they maybe/probably made it even better for 2.4.
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Aug 31, 2016 15:58
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theshim posted:Thinking this will be my first character this league, Explosive Arrow Chieftain. Probably level as Firestorm until I can nab a Quill Rain. I'm thinking about pathing over to EE with some cold or lightning damage on a ring or something. The dex nodes are all placeholders to deal with gem requirements, probably won't need all of them. I really recommend grabbing Elemental Overload instead of RT. Then you can take the dex/accuracy nodes instead of the pure dex nodes. Also, you really should use blood magic keystone instead of blood magic gem. The life-cost from gem is pretty loving insane. Here's the jugger EA I ran in 2.3 https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Rodent1/characters (EARodent)
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Aug 31, 2016 16:01
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So since ill get a full respec should i switch from eq into something else? I prob wont play the character much anyway and he's turning into a MF anyway, should i switch to an ice crash build with two Camerias?
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Aug 31, 2016 16:13
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TheRat posted:I really recommend grabbing Elemental Overload instead of RT. Then you can take the dex/accuracy nodes instead of the pure dex nodes. Also, you really should use blood magic keystone instead of blood magic gem. The life-cost from gem is pretty loving insane. Good call on the Blood Magic, though. This looks about right, should hit this mid-80s before I get bored.
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Aug 31, 2016 16:31
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ButtWolf posted:So since ill get a full respec should i switch from eq into something else? I prob wont play the character much anyway and he's turning into a MF anyway, should i switch to an ice crash build with two Camerias?
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Aug 31, 2016 16:50
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The Real Foogla posted:on standard? do whatever the gently caress you want Oh ok.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:02
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theshim posted:I'm thinking I might have a Curse on Hit - Lightning Arrow setup to proc EE You dont need that. You proc EE with the arrows themselves, it's applied before they explode.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:10
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just dont have flat fire dmg somewhere on your gear :^)
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Aug 31, 2016 17:11
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I am so loving hyped for Friday I can't even. Last year they put in lockstep, this year its multi threaded engine stuff. Any other developer would have probably said 'lol get hosed nerds' and parachuted away with MTX money. Gonna buy a supporter pack Friday methinks.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:15
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Is EA still gonna be good with the Frost Wall change? I thought that was kind of an integral part to wrecking poo poo with EA. Maybe I misunderstood either how EA works or what the Frost Wall change was. Or is that just a single target thing and you need to have a weapon swap for blast rain or something for single targets?
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Aug 31, 2016 17:25
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TheRat posted:You dont need that. You proc EE with the arrows themselves, it's applied before they explode. Should I run any auras with this? Don't like running them with BM much, and EA doesn't seem to benefit from a lot of them. I guess I'll just sit on a fuckoff giant pool of life. Looking at your Juggernaut, it's good to see I'm thinking the same gear overall - Quill Rain, Rearguard, Blood Dance, Kaom's, Devoto's. I probably won't actually get the Kaom's at any point on account of being terrible at making mad poebux, but I seem to have learned a thing or two. I guess Undeniable is one of the reasons you could more easily run EO instead of RT, but I'm dumb and making a Chieftain for some reason, so that's a shitton of accuracy I'd be missing out on.
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MerrMan posted:Is EA still gonna be good with the Frost Wall change? I thought that was kind of an integral part to wrecking poo poo with EA. Maybe I misunderstood either how EA works or what the Frost Wall change was. The Frost Wall change was more targeted at Lightning Arrow than anything. On hit, LA creates 3 projectiles which automatically home in on an enemy. Drop a Frost Wall in front of a boss, hit wall with Lightning Arrow, all 3 of those projectiles hit boss. That's fine and dandy...except LA creates those projectiles on each hit, so get 100% Pierce chance and throw up a couple of FW and you're just making GBS threads projectiles at a single target. EA only drops charges on projectile death (i.e. the last thing the arrow hits) not on every hit like LA.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:31
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theshim posted:I guess Undeniable is one of the reasons you could more easily run EO instead of RT, but I'm dumb and making a Chieftain for some reason, so that's a shitton of accuracy I'd be missing out on. People run EO without jugger actually. EA is unique in that arrows that miss dont get destroyed, they keep going until they hit an obstacle. In indoor maps, accuracy basically doesnt do anything. Outdoor maps, however, Undeniable is nice, but you should be entirely allright just picking up a ring with 400 accuracy. Hell, I got undeniable at lvl91 and it worked just fine until then.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:39
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Insurrectionist posted:I'm gonna run with my ED Trickster with some minor tweaks then I think, get on the Poison train while it's still double-dipping goodness. Can't see the flat 20% nerf having too big an impact on its viability. Curse effectiveness nerf is kinda bleh for it but oh well. If Wither totem ends up not viable with the channeling changes will that be a big hit to the build? Make to get a Consuming Dark, it will give you a gigantic boost on single target damage which ED can have issues with.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:41
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I am selfishly glad for the Bladefall Mine and slight poison nerf, because it means the Coated Shrapnel jewels my Bladefall Trapper needs may end up being cheaper this league.
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Aug 31, 2016 17:45
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TheRat posted:People run EO without jugger actually. EA is unique in that arrows that miss dont get destroyed, they keep going until they hit an obstacle. In indoor maps, accuracy basically doesnt do anything. Outdoor maps, however, Undeniable is nice, but you should be entirely allright just picking up a ring with 400 accuracy. Hell, I got undeniable at lvl91 and it worked just fine until then.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:00
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I don't know if I want to go templar or witch Ice spear.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:05
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Speaking of witch ice spear, I cooked this up. Plan is to use a 5l (or 6l) pledge, ice spear > GMP > pierce > cold pierce > ice bite, maybe faster casting in there idk. I'll be playing SC, but I'd like any thoughts people have. Edit: Changed gem. Firos fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Aug 31, 2016 |
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Aug 31, 2016 18:30
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Flicker strike seems pretty good right now.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:38
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Vasudus posted:I am so loving hyped for Friday I can't even. Yeah I think I'll go for the hydra pack, it looks sweet and they're one of the few developers I don't mind giving extra $$ to support. Lord knows I've gotten enough hours of play out of PoE.
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Aug 31, 2016 18:41
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I've been trying to concoct a dual claw templar and my favorite so far looks something like this. It doesn't really demand claws but it is oriented toward molten strike which synergizes nicely with life gain on hit. I could pull the 15 or so passives out of the dual wield/projectile damage near duelist and put them toward swords, sceptres, or jewels to adjust for whatever gear comes along later on. The only thing I don't like about it is the middling life. I tried to work in mind over matter because poacher's mark + molten strike spews out a ton of mana but developing the mana pool to support it stretched too thin.
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Also real talk, how slow/bad at mapping is blade fall trapper (not mines obv.)? How slow/bad is ice trap at atziri/uber izaro/etc?
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Aug 31, 2016 18:44
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Another build search page this one scrapes the top 1000 public profiles in perm HC and tries to filter out the profiles that have no gear on them. Should searchable by gear and gems. http://www.poebuilds.io/builds?page=1
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whypick1 posted:The Frost Wall change was more targeted at Lightning Arrow than anything. On hit, LA creates 3 projectiles which automatically home in on an enemy. Drop a Frost Wall in front of a boss, hit wall with Lightning Arrow, all 3 of those projectiles hit boss. That's fine and dandy...except LA creates those projectiles on each hit, so get 100% Pierce chance and throw up a couple of FW and you're just making GBS threads projectiles at a single target. Frost Wall was somewhat necessary for EA. If you're shooting at a boss out in the open only 1 of your 5 EA projectiles will hit it at a time. If you put down a Frost Wall and both you and the boss were standing on the wall, all the explosions would overlap on the boss, muliplying the damage by 5x. Likewise the best single target option for KB is now to lure a boss to a physical wall and try to shoot at the wall hoping the game engine understands what you're doing and makes all the projectiles hit the wall relatively close to the boss.
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Are there any good ways to give Ice spear a knockback without using a gem slot? I think it would KB would be nice to push mobs away if they're close enough to not trigger the explosion.
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Ultima66 posted:Frost Wall was somewhat necessary for EA. If you're shooting at a boss out in the open only 1 of your 5 EA projectiles will hit it at a time. If you put down a Frost Wall and both you and the boss were standing on the wall, all the explosions would overlap on the boss, muliplying the damage by 5x. Oh yeah, forgot about extra projectiles. Deki posted:Are there any good ways to give Ice spear a knockback without using a gem slot? I think it would KB would be nice to push mobs away if they're close enough to not trigger the explosion. Couple nodes on the tree and a Winds of Change. That's about it. Doesn't even net you 30% chance.
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Deki posted:Are there any good ways to give Ice spear a knockback without using a gem slot? I think it would KB would be nice to push mobs away if they're close enough to not trigger the explosion. knockback jewels
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Dearest Goons, Has anyone tried a CI Whispering Ice build (like https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1667730 that could speak to it a bit more? If you have, what ascendancy would you recommend? I have done jugg/champion EQ for the last few leagues and I'm looking for a change up. My priorities are less about clear speed and more about end-game boss killing. I've never tried CI before either, so that adds a whole bunch of new gearing that I've never done before as well. Please talk me out of it if you think this plan is poo poo, or if there are greener pastures. Your friend, blackteapot
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Hauki posted:Yeah I think I'll go for the hydra pack, it looks sweet and they're one of the few developers I don't mind giving extra $$ to support. Lord knows I've gotten enough hours of play out of PoE. hydra armor looks awesome
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blackteapot posted:Dearest Goons, Here's my lovely build and gear https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/theshim/characters (ShimWhispers)
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theshim posted:I ran a CI Whispering Ice build just this past league! Thanks for the insight theshim! Did you run into difficulties getting the socket colors to match up to all ES gear? Also - what made you pick that helmet rather than black sun?
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Aug 31, 2016 20:21
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blackteapot posted:Thanks for the insight theshim! Did you run into difficulties getting the socket colors to match up to all ES gear? Also - what made you pick that helmet rather than black sun?  ) was a huge chunk of additional ES and kept the +1 gems. The minor loss of damage on BSC was more than made up for by the huge amount of survivability and still let me keep my Enlighten in there. Ideally you either run with BSC or a really good rare ES hat, but those are very expensive.The only sockets that really matter are getting 2R in a 6S staff. Getting three reds for a good CWDT/EC/ID is a bit annoying, but overall the build's not terribly chrome-intensive - or even that expensive to get up and running, though you can drop shittons into perfecting it. Most of the rares I was wearing for maps were 1c pickups.
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Aug 31, 2016 20:34
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Yo can I get a ginvite? Name is the same as here.
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Aug 31, 2016 20:35
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Heads up for anyone considering playing Ice Spear: It's still just Ice Spear, an awkward to use spell that has poor packclearing capabilities, unless you're running it GMP/Chain and/or a beefy HoI.
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theshim posted:the Vertex (which I never gave back to Vasudus, sorry man Did you use it throughout the league? Good then, I don't care. nightwisher posted:Heads up for anyone considering playing Ice Spear: The lack of buffs to glacial cascade make me sad. I want to like that spell so much.
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nightwisher posted:Heads up for anyone considering playing Ice Spear: My builds are bad anyway so why change things.
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Vasudus posted:The lack of buffs to glacial cascade make me sad. I want to like that spell so much. I've contemplated trying to set up the precise knockback needed to gently caress things up with GC, every time Haast deals like 8,000 damage through max cold res because I whirling blades'd with perfect timing. But that sounds like a lot of effort 
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FillInTheBlank posted:My builds are bad anyway so why change things. Oh yeah I'm not saying it's super bad or anything, just don't be surprised at how underwhelming they can perform compared to other projectile spells. It's mechanically interesting but is a relic of the old gameplay meta and just doesn't compare to newer spells with less clunky mechanics
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I like glacial cascade but it is a hard one to use. It's funny that one of its lab enchants converts nearly all of the physical damage to ice. They're basically saying yeah, one of the unique features of this spell is actually just a dumb annoyance that you'd like to be rid of. If you can get that enchant it makes the passive tree much less painful since you're no longer getting your cold nodes cut nearly in half.
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