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satanic splash-back posted:another 1000+ pound thread in the making e: gently caress yeah  
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KVeezy3 posted:The problem is that people don't have the knowledge/tools to correctly engage the situation, leading ultimately to failure. bullshit. the information has never been easier to find than now, what with the internet and all. people just aren't willing to do what it takes to actually accomplish weight loss/fitness and instead walk on a threadmill for 10 minutes and then reward themselves by eating more burgers because that takes the least amount of discomfort and they can still tell people they "excercise"
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Dreddout posted:Is this the GBS hates fat people thread? Yes. Were you looking for the women, gays or genderblob thread? e: It's stupid easy to lose weight just with caloric reduction. Not everyone is going to be running 10k and doing chin-ups but anyone can eat less.
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Sep 2, 2016 12:48
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Fat people repulse me, the very sight of them and the toxic smell they exude is an assault on the eyes and nostrils. If it were not against the law i would strike them with my walking cane until I was sated of my bestial urges.
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LordArgh posted:bullshit. the information has never been easier to find than now, what with the internet and all. people just aren't willing to do what it takes to actually accomplish weight loss/fitness and instead walk on a threadmill for 10 minutes and then reward themselves by eating more burgers because that takes the least amount of discomfort and they can still tell people they "excercise" You're wrong but, I suppose that is an opinion  .
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Frosted Flake posted:Yes. Were you looking for the women, gays or genderblob thread? Everyone, aside from people who are permanently disabled, absolutely has the capability to run 10k and do at least a few sets of chin ups. It starts with running however far you can, and then doing that again tomorrow, and repeating that until you find that you can run ten kilometers! Come to think of it, quite a few permanently disabled people can do much more than that. Even people who are missing limbs! If a modern day Lt. Dan can do it, what's stopping you, if that is something that you want to be able to do?
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Sep 2, 2016 13:07
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The genetics argument: Meeting a hot chick at a bar while you're wasted, and in a panic to explain your behavior telling her that you're not drunk, in fact you don't even drink, you were just born retarded!
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Sep 2, 2016 13:12
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CheesyDog posted:The genetics argument: I can confirm this works. Pity sex is
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Sep 2, 2016 13:24
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Frosted Flake posted:Yes. Were you looking for the women, gays or genderblob thread? Anyone can eat less (and that's where the focus should be, not exercise), but it's not easy for the vast majority of people. If it was easy, we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic. Most fat people want to lose weight, but don't, precisely because it is hard. Telling people losing weight is easy has the unfortunate effect of causing more people to fail. So thanks for contributing to obesity I guess?
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Sep 2, 2016 13:47
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runupon cracker posted:Anyone can eat less (and that's where the focus should be, not exercise), but it's not easy for the vast majority of people. If it was easy, we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic. Most fat people want to lose weight, but don't, precisely because it is hard. Actually it's not hard you baby
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Sep 2, 2016 13:52
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The solution is simple but maybe not easy for fat ppl with no willpower
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Sep 2, 2016 13:54
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8 track betamax posted:Actually it's not hard you baby despite all of the evidence to the contrary you're right
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Sep 2, 2016 13:55
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Pannus posted:The solution is simple but maybe not easy for fat ppl with no willpower they need a solution with a level of difficulty not more than preparing a big pot of Kraft easy mac
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Sep 2, 2016 13:55
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youre really weak mentally if you cant just reduce food intake for a few months until your weight goes down like man, let yourself be hungry and get over it that is if youre too lazy to figure out how to feel full on a low calorie diet, which you are, arent you, you lazy piece of shiiiit sorry that got out of hand
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Sep 2, 2016 13:56
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its not a matter of willpower, i just don't want to eat less!!
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Sep 2, 2016 13:58
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Pannus posted:The solution is simple but maybe not easy for fat ppl with no willpower there's way too much emphasis on willpower imo. Willpower is important in the early stages of weight loss, but in the long term discipline is what will bring success. The trick is building up that discipline before your willpower gives out.
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Zzulu posted:youre really weak mentally if you cant just reduce food intake for a few months until your weight goes down yes, maintaining willpower over the course of several months is the easiest thing ever lmao
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Sep 2, 2016 13:59
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Zzulu posted:youre really weak mentally if you cant just reduce food intake for a few months until your weight goes down you just don't understand how hard it is to not eat a large pizza every night by myself because it tastes good
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Sep 2, 2016 14:00
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runupon cracker posted:yes, maintaining willpower over the course of several months is the easiest thing ever lmao this but unironically
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Sep 2, 2016 14:00
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its a minimal amount of willpower that boils down to "eatin less" just eat less why is this so insanely hard for ppl no, do not eat the twinky
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Sep 2, 2016 14:01
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Sound posted:you just don't understand how hard it is to not eat a large pizza every night by myself you don't need to eat a large pizza to get too many calories
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Sep 2, 2016 14:02
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Zzulu posted:its a minimal amount of willpower that boils down to "eatin less" you can get too many calories without eating twinkies
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Sep 2, 2016 14:03
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KVeezy3 posted:The problem is that people don't have the knowledge/tools to correctly engage the situation, leading ultimately to failure. How many people do you see on the treadmill month after month, year after year, looking exactly the same or worse? The individual is essentially fighting against billions of dollars by invested corporations who understand your body's chemistry better than you do. corporations don't necessarily understand your body at all most big food corps nowadays got that way by stumbling onto a good recipe by accident and it just happened that people bought their poo poo and so they got big, e.g. Ben&Jerries it's entirely logical that a person would eat food when it is available to him IMO this is why governments must employ experts who understand the human body to regulate the behaviour of producers and consumers. and they do with some success
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Sep 2, 2016 14:05
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eating less food is a choice, just like putting on pants or not putting on pants.
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satanic splash-back posted:eating less food is a choice, just like putting on pants or not putting on pants. right but it's a marginally more uncomfortable choice (think wearing dress slacks instead of comfy sweat pants) so we must excuse people who are *genetically unable* to make the choice to wear slacks instead of sweats
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Sep 2, 2016 14:08
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runupon cracker posted:you don't need to eat a large pizza to get too many calories Interestingly, my diet and exercise routine could handle a large meat pizza every day- but only if that's all I ate and it was exercise day. Seriously, just log your food- you can eat whatever you want then, just balance it out. Better than any soul crushing diet that forces you to forsake foods you love. Or you can just run a 2.5-hour 20k every time you want to justify shoving 10 slices of pizza in your face. That's right fatty, a large pizza should be able to fuel a half marathon.
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Sep 2, 2016 14:14
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runupon cracker posted:Anyone can eat less (and that's where the focus should be, not exercise), but it's not easy for the vast majority of people. If it was easy, we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic. Most fat people want to lose weight, but don't, precisely because it is hard. Yeah, ok, losing weight is harder than continuing to be a fat gently caress. How is this a revelation or relevant? I'm pretty sure that a huge percentage of fat people have a smart phone capable or running a calorie counting app, and/or an activity monitoring app. That part is inexcusably easy, but no, that would reveal the extent of their gluttony, and ruin the illusion of helplessness. Is it easier to deal with the inevitable COPD, diabetes, joint issues and overall health decline, and early grave? Is it easier to wait as long as possible to deal with it, so you can struggle futilely at the end to make changes that may now actually be impossible? This is clearly all the fault of those that misled you by saying it is easy to do. It is however, much much easy to start the process and make significant changes than it is to avoid the long term repercussions. More disgusting than morbid obesity is the mentality that allows rationalizations that push back against accepting the repercussions of their deliberately ignoring their health for decades. Even worse then are those that also complain about everyone making it harder for them and "contributing to obesity" while avoiding any kind of personal responsibility. Oh well, they will all discover that living actually is hard, if only at the end on their oversized gurney, wishing they had had the strength (somehow!) to not eat oversized meals.
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Lichy posted:corporations don't necessarily understand your body at all lol if you don't think food is specifically engineered by the corporations to keep people fat
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maybe someone asked this already but why can op accept that appetite can vary from person to person, but cant/won't accept that willpower and self control can also vary from person to person and some people are just fat lazy autists
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Sep 2, 2016 14:27
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Blitter posted:Yeah, ok, losing weight is harder than continuing to be a fat gently caress. How is this a revelation or relevant? I don't know, which is why I'm always puzzled when people say how easy it is
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LordArgh posted:bullshit. the information has never been easier to find than now, what with the internet and all. people just aren't willing to do what it takes to actually accomplish weight loss/fitness and instead walk on a threadmill for 10 minutes and then reward themselves by eating more burgers because that takes the least amount of discomfort and they can still tell people they "excercise" this guy is right. ive caught myself putting on weight a few times and have basically just googled for diet advice to help keep on track its not rocket science ffs
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The Wizard of Poz posted:maybe someone asked this already but why can op accept that appetite can vary from person to person, but cant/won't accept that willpower and self control can also vary from person to person and some people are just fat lazy autists people have some kind of cognitive dissonance when it comes to biodiversity. Like it's totally impossible that one person's target body fat percentage could be higher than another's.
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Sep 2, 2016 14:29
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Hahahahahahah look at all these people acting like you can just put extra points into WIL to solve all your problems as if life was a Bioware RPG.
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runupon cracker posted:I don't know, which is why I'm always puzzled when people say how easy it is because its "hard" but not prohibitively so for anyone who would genuinely rather lose weight than just gorging on whatever happy-make-feel-good poo poo they wanna shove into their gluttonous hole
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Azuth0667 posted:Hahahahahahah look at all these people acting like you can just put extra points into WIL to solve all your problems as if life was a Bioware RPG. Well, I was serious about the discipline thing. Discipline is a powerful tool, and it can be built up over time. Willpower is easier to maintain in the short term if you know there's light at the end of the tunnel, so knowing you can build up discipline for the long haul can help people. It worked for me, anyway.
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The Wizard of Poz posted:because its "hard" but not prohibitively so for anyone who would genuinely rather lose weight than just gorging on whatever happy-make-feel-good poo poo they wanna shove into their gluttonous hole you do not need to gorge on "happy-make-feel-good-poo poo" to get too many calories
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runupon cracker posted:I don't know, which is why I'm always puzzled when people say how easy it is it's easy if you try different approaches and hit the one that works for you the part where you try things at first and it doesn't work is always the hardest part in developing any habit, dieting included
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runupon cracker posted:Well, I was serious about the discipline thing. Discipline is a powerful tool, and it can be built up over time. Willpower is easier to maintain in the short term if you know there's light at the end of the tunnel, so knowing you can build up discipline for the long haul can help people. the word you're actually looking for is habit, not discipline
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listen up fatties, there is a time and place for figuring environmental factors. that time is when you are a government scientist that is advising public policy. the time to think of environmental factors is NOT when you are dealing with your own personal problems. focus only on things you have the power to change dummies (unless you enjoy sapping you own motivation I guess  )
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runupon cracker posted:I don't know, which is why I'm always puzzled when people say how easy it is Because it *is* easy to start by honestly looking at your diet and health by counting calories and activity. It never ceases to amaze me how people cherry pick poo poo to reinforce their own imagined inability, particularly the fat.
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