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What's Lester Holt's style like? Or really any of the moderators, I want to set up temporary metal images of how these events will go. Good job on making the last one Vegas. I'm sure Trump specifically asked anything resembling a casino or tower to be in his element or at least seem like it.
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hexenmexen posted:The argument that she is progressive is hardly believable as well, considering she married a guy who had the values enough to enable the housing bubble No, that was Carter - get your GOP talking points right jeez  Also, nice sexism. Very appropriate to your overall position.
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visceril posted:Also, the first hour and a half of the debate will be the moderator engaging the candidates in acapella bluegrass, as a test of domestic policy and patriotism Why not just have a prairie home companion debate episode? It would be like a rap battle
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iospace posted:Why do you think the last several pages have been NPR chat? Because USPOL is weird. Woops.
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hexenmexen posted:This is how Hillary is campaigning as well, and not only does she take money from wealthy donors but she takes money from regimes with values opposite of the average American. You do realize that foreign nationals can not contribute to any U.S. political campaign? Do you have a story that even suggests she has accepted contributions from a foreign national?
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Given Trump's debating style, maybe Earl Hebner would have made a better choice
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Iron Crowned posted:Why not just have a prairie home companion debate episode? Would be tremendously biased for Hillary. She's Methodist and it'd be her home turf.
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hexenmexen posted:This is how Hillary is campaigning as well, and not only does she take money from wealthy donors but she takes money from regimes with values opposite of the average American. few fun facts 1) This is illegal 2) There's absolutely no proof of this. 3) Trump spends a lot of time courting the Russian elite, whoops. Like I find it odd that a lot of accusations against Clinton come down to "Literally Wrong And Also Exactly What Trump Is Doing"
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AMorePerfctGoonion posted:Given Trump's debating style, maybe Earl Hebner would have made a better choice Trump manages to counter one of Hillary's points, Earl calls the debate.
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radical meme posted:You do realize that foreign nationals can not contribute to any U.S. political campaign? Do you have a story that even suggests she has accepted contributions from a foreign national? Foreigners have donated to the Clinton Foundation, therefore: Also have you seen how sick she is???
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Man they really put the VP debate in the rear end end of nowhere.
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Oh hey, so not only is Roger Ailes a massive creep towards women, he also very likely engaged in illegal phone hacking:quote:The executives both above and below Roger Ailes looked the other way while the Fox News chief engaged in "predatory" behavior, Ailes' biographer Gabriel Sherman writes in the next issue of New York magazine.
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https://twitter.com/TIME/status/771697544124596224 Can't believe they arrested a guy for swimming, imo.
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DaveWoo posted:Oh hey, so not only is Roger Ailes a massive creep towards women, he also very likely engaged in illegal phone hacking: Isn't this the same poo poo that put Murdoch's people in London in jail?
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Speaking of foreign donations: apparenty Manafort and his top aide (Gates) have not received paychecks fom Trump. So either he is stuffing them (not unlikely given Trump), or thy were on someone elses payroll at the same time. Likely someone foreign... (Probably Rinat Akhmetov...)
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Sometimes I seriously think that GOT not the GOP is to blame for this obsession with building a massive wall. Maybe Trump supporters are just throners who are supporting an IRL Bran the Builder to protect them from the brown walkers
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/TIME/status/771697544124596224 Execute everyone who reports this way, jesus christ.
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OddObserver posted:Speaking of foreign donations: apparenty Manafort and his top aide (Gates) have not received paychecks fom Trump. So either he is stuffing them (not unlikely given Trump), or thy were on someone elses payroll at the same time. Likely someone foreign... I think Manafort was explicitly working for free(which would be the most suspicious loving thing to anybody who isn't a massive cheapskate).
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radical meme posted:Isn't this the same poo poo that put Murdoch's people in London in jail? In that case News Intl. (i.e. Murdoch) journalists were hacking into celebrities mobile phones and accessing their messages and voicemail inbox. I'm not sure if this is comparable.
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Yinlock posted:I think Manafort was explicitly working for free(which would be the most suspicious loving thing to anybody who isn't a massive cheapskate). This is the guy who got like $12 million (likely much more) for his company in one of the two poorest countries in Europe.... Granted, GOP was his home before the disgraced dictators world tour stage of his career....
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The Shortest Path posted:Execute everyone who reports this way, jesus christ. To be fair the actual article headline is "Brock Turner Released After Serving 3 Months for Sexual Assault". That tweet is utterly indefensible though.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/TIME/status/771697544124596224 There's no way you can convince me that a swimming meet is twenty minutes of action
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OddObserver posted:This is the guy who got like $12 million (likely much more) for his company in one of the two poorest countries in Europe.... Granted, GOP was his home before the disgraced dictators world tour stage of his career.... Jesus, is there anything about Manafort that isn't the shadiest thing imaginable? Is his dog named I Love Tyranny?
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Ted Cruz slithers away from the 2016 campaign. Ted Cruz says he was once a man?  That's Lyin Ted for you.
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David Farenthold is claiming that Trump set up the Trump Foundation so that whenever he wrote out a check for a charitable organization the money came from the foundation, and never out of Trump's wallet. The reason the foundation got caught making an illegal political donation was that the group was listed as a charity by mistake. Just when you think Trump can't get any more crass or cheap.
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hexenmexen posted:This is how Hillary is campaigning as well, and not only does she take money from wealthy donors but she takes money from regimes with values opposite of the average American.  This is bush league bullshit, but please continue. Here let me debunk your bullshit:hexenmexen posted:This is how Hillary is campaigning as well, and not only does she take money from wealthy donors but she takes money from regimes with values opposite of the average American. This is illegal and not happening. Rating: Pants on Fire hexenmexen posted:The argument that she is progressive is hardly believable as well, considering she married a guy who had the values enough to enable the housing bubble and signed NAFTA. This is even dumber that previous one for a variety of reasons, though not a complete lie. Just bad logic and thinking. hexenmexen posted:It's much further than that too the idea that she believes in any accountability is laughable. She ran a private server deleted emails then lied and said she only deleted personal ones not related to work, which has been proven to be false. Also she attempted to blame Colin Powell for setting the precedent of running a private server, when she already had it up and running, then went ask Powell about the legality of it. Your timeline is woefully wrong. The server was setup, originally for the campaign. She talked to several former SoS all of which mentioned running their own email address because State's IT department in 2008 was in the loving dark ages. She said they deleted personal emails to the extent they could determine. Which, even the FBI director said was fine and that there was no evidence that they had attempted to hide anything. Most of the emails they found that weren't turned over were only able to be found by going through them line by loving line for six months with a huge staff, and none of them were particularly not worth. She's also said that was the wrong decision and has been pretty darned compliant with this entire, bullshit investigation that is at least partially rooted in State vs FBI rules on classification. We rate this statement as, Mostly False. hexenmexen posted:The woman has no moral compass. And she more egregiously takes money from the highest bidder than Trump. All campaigns have private closed door meetings with wealthy donors the difference Trump isn't taking money from the Saudis and George Soros... at least at the moment. So, taking money from George Soros means you have no "moral compass?" Well I guess no Democrat for like four cycles has that. But I guess it's okay for Trump's campaign to take plenty of dark money vile, right-wing billionaires who want to destroy the welfare state. Also she hasn't taken any money from Saudis, that would be illegal. This is again, just bullshit. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Gyges posted:The Trump campaign is only going to accelerate down the path of insanity now. The last voices of moderation are quitting and being driven out. All that's left are insane people who are true believers in the silent majority and the power of hate. And those racist idiots are going to be so loving happy and adoring of Jersey Shore Mussolini that his narcissism won't let him do anything but follow them down this path. So the Trump campaign is basically what happens to every political subforum and Facebook group?
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gradenko_2000 posted:So the Trump campaign is basically what happens to every political subforum and Facebook group? Yes, but with even less filter and knowledge.
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Vox article on the latest Clinton Foundation "scandal"
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Yinlock posted:Jesus, is there anything about Manafort that isn't the shadiest thing imaginable? Apparently he got his campaign director gig when Trump heard him yelling after he lost his dog
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zoux posted:Vox article on the latest Clinton Foundation "scandal" NYT Politics Desk Gonna NYT Politics Desk
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visceril posted:Also, the first hour and a half of the debate will be the moderator engaging the candidates in acapella bluegrass, as a test of domestic policy and patriotism
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Crabtree posted:What's Lester Holt's style like? Or really any of the moderators, I want to set up temporary metal images of how these events will go. Lester Holt is a straight newscaster. He's never hosted a debate before and his interview style is kind of like Brian Williams. Very much generic interviewer; frequently uses followups, but not super aggressive.
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zoux posted:Vox article on the latest Clinton Foundation "scandal" I seriously don't understand how The New York Times can have such a blind spot when it comes to reporting on every made up, manufactured Clinton scandal that comes out. Here's a decent article in The Daily Beast about the media's obsession with anything Clinton related. That article led to this, New York Time's hardcover nonfiction best seller list. quote:1. 3 WEEKS ON THE LIST Clinton hatred and manufactured Clinton scandals is a money making operation. radical meme fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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The reason why the press publishes anti-Clinton articles is that a large fraction of the population has an obsessive hatred of Hillary and will literally read anything negative about her. It's just economics. Newspapers can now monitor which articles people look at on their websites and find out what kind of material people like to read about it and the Hillhaters just eat that poo poo up and ask for more please sir, no matter how minor the "scandal" is. Unfortunately things will only get worse during her presidency but I weigh that against all the wailing and gnashing of teeth that we'll hear on November 9 when half of America throws a collective tantrum. I'm scared because I might die from a fatal overdose of schaedenfreude. But what a way to go edit:drat you radical meme AMorePerfctGoonion fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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zoux posted:It's tough for me because my natural sympathies lie with the press and usually I scoff at people who whine about media bias but there really does seem to be a systemic pattern of bad stories about the Clintons. Or maybe I'm just consumed by my own biases http://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900143/hillary-clinton-reporting-rules
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Oracle posted:Oh my God you just described Tim Kaine's dream debate. I thought Tim Kaine would be more of a jug band kinda guy. toot toot toot toot
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zoux posted:It's tough for me because my natural sympathies lie with the press and usually I scoff at people who whine about media bias but there really does seem to be a systemic pattern of bad stories about the Clintons. Or maybe I'm just consumed by my own biases Biases are like being crazy. If you're sane enough to wonder whether you are crazy or not, you almost certainly aren't. Similarly if you are self-reflective and thoughtful enough to consider your own biases, you're most likely one of the few members of America's ever-dwindling reality-based community
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zoux posted:It's tough for me because my natural sympathies lie with the press and usually I scoff at people who whine about media bias but there really does seem to be a systemic pattern of bad stories about the Clintons. Or maybe I'm just consumed by my own biases US press is garbage nowadays, sadly.
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