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Looks like Ranked is coming back in Oct/Nov, with the tiers being 6 and 8. Already making lists of what to bring. T8: Benson, Bismark, NorCal definitely, maybe some interesting things like the Atago or Kutuzov T6: Dunkek, Arizona. Maybe Farragut?
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Vorkosigan posted:Looks like Ranked is coming back in Oct/Nov, with the tiers being 6 and 8. As someone who hasn't played ranked yet, what's the deal with this? Is it worth doing? Because I could totally have some fun playing ranked Bayern or New Mex matches
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Sep 2, 2016 16:58
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There are rewards and stuff, but you have to do it early with all the other better players, the longer you leave it, the more likely the entire pool of ranked players for it to choose your team from are gibbering idiots, who make it near impossible to advance the last few ranks.
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Sep 2, 2016 17:04
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MadJackMcJack posted:(This is mostly for lower tier) Followed this, did 120k damaged in an isokaze A++ would boat again. Also just sank two full health kaisers with a salvo each gat drat those type 92's rule
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Sep 2, 2016 17:11
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Ice Fist posted:As someone who hasn't played ranked yet, what's the deal with this? Is it worth doing? You got flags (and I think money? Not sure) for various rank milestones in the previous season. The big prize is if you reach rank 1 in 2 or 3 consecutive seasons, you get the USS Flint - an Atlanta with 2 less gun turrets, but gets US DD smoke and 9.2km torpedoes instead of the standard 4km. It's pretty ridiculous.
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Sep 2, 2016 17:22
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Another thing worth noting is that you want to get out ahead of the enemy. Your torps can't catch up to an enemy from invisitorp range, but when firing from ahead you get even more range to play with as a safety margin. Ideal position is flat side on to where the enemy's going to be. You can use the map circle to be confident that by the time the enemy reaches the torps they'll be in range. Also the speed boost can be very useful for getting into position quickly, either to run down an enemy on a fixed course or to get into the vision shadow of an island. With regards to that, have a rough idea of what sonar/radar you might face, but if you aren't going to get caught out islands are amazing. If you see an enemy that's going to cruise by an island you can wait behind it and hit them with a point blank hammer blow. Ideally you can pop the torps off and be out before the enemy can see you but don't be scared to smoke up if there's a risk of being seen because they're really close to the island. It might not help but it's worth the use and will help once you open a bit of range.
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Sep 2, 2016 17:29
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For those who don't have a tier 8 for ranked, I bet that by pure coincidence, Belfast or Prinz Eugen will be available to buy in the store
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Sep 2, 2016 18:05
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NTRabbit posted:For those who don't have a tier 8 for ranked, I bet that by pure coincidence, Belfast or Prinz Eugen will be available to buy in the store Prinz Eugen not getting a lot of love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErX0mIY9P-Q
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Sep 2, 2016 18:15
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torping battleships at 2km range is the best thign about DDs. if you can't handle the danger zone then DDs aren't for you
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Sep 2, 2016 18:18
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So far I suck at this game, but bought myself a Dunqkerque and I loving love it. Shame on wargaming for giving me such an awesome ship with no tech tree to use the captain on.
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Sep 2, 2016 18:22
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ZombieLenin posted:So far I suck at this game, but bought myself a Dunqkerque and I loving love it. Shame on wargaming for giving me such an awesome ship with no tech tree to use the captain on. French will get a tree to use it on next year imo, Dunkerque's big sister Richlieu at tier 8 and lots of quad turret ships all through the tree, probably this time 2017.
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So if you're on NA and don't have a Blyskawica yet, it looks like it's been removed from the tree in 0.5.11 to cycle in new premiums so get it if you're planning on picking it up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RljYud-yKHE At least I'll be able to buy a Saipan finally
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While I'm here, I've got two questions: Torpedoes: I'm horrible at these, is there a mod that gives you a seconds ruler like the alternative targeting on the main guns to help me out? Cruisers: Can someone clue me in on how to play these? I try to play support, but I always die in the fire. Insert name here posted:So if you're on NA and don't have a Blyskawica yet, it looks like it's been removed from the tree in 0.5.11 to cycle in new premiums so get it if you're planning on picking it up: Does this mean there is going to be a Polish tree? I know a lot about big gunned ships... and I'm struggling with anything that could go in such a tree. ZombieLenin fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 18:54
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Torpedoes straight up give you an autoaim based on the target's current heading and speed. Line up the green arc with the white arc.
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Vatek posted:Torpedoes straight up give you an autoaim based on the target's current heading and speed. Line up the green arc with the white arc. It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure this out.
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ZombieLenin posted:Does this mean there is going to be a Polish tree? I know a lot about big gunned ships... and I'm struggling with anything that could go in such a tree. Nah, it's just gonna be scattered premiums, same as the Chinese ships, and a couple things in tanks. Insert name here posted:So if you're on NA and don't have a Blyskawica yet, it looks like it's been removed from the tree in 0.5.11 to cycle in new premiums so get it if you're planning on picking it up: Also Sims, it's basically a Benson that gives up the good torps to get tier 7, I recommend it. It's a better boat than the Mahan, especially in the last ranked season, and tier 7 is the sweet zone right now. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 19:08
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MrKatharsis posted:It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure this out. Yeah, and then of course if you're in close you can hedge one way or another to hit an enemy who's turning.
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MrKatharsis posted:It took me an embarrassingly long time to figure this out. I still have no loving clue what this is... please let me join this group of people embarrassed that they missed this.
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You know how to target enemy ships? When you do that and have torpedoes active, you get a ghostly white torpedo indicator. If you put your green torpedo indicator over that white one and the target doesn't turn, the target will sink. Spooooky!
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xthetenth posted:You know how to target enemy ships? When you do that and have torpedoes active, you get a ghostly white torpedo indicator. If you put your green torpedo indicator over that white one and the target doesn't turn, the target will sink. Spooooky! It's not even October yet c'mon.
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xthetenth posted:You know how to target enemy ships? When you do that and have torpedoes active, you get a ghostly white torpedo indicator. If you put your green torpedo indicator over that white one and the target doesn't turn, the target will sink. Spooooky!  I mean, I don't play ships with torpedoes very often, but still. I've never noticed this. Got to hop on a dd when I'm home and see this thing.
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So I'll just nip on for a few games today and try to get my bonus win with my Udaloi...7 games later... 
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Insert name here posted:So if you're on NA and don't have a Blyskawica yet, it looks like it's been removed from the tree in 0.5.11 to cycle in new premiums so get it if you're planning on picking it up: Guess I better buy a Blyskawica. Been hoping for another discount on them, but I like that ship when I see it.
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Ice Fist posted:
Assumes a constant heading but if they are busy firing at something else and you stay undetected it's pretty drat reliable.
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CitizenKain posted:Guess I better buy a Blyskawica. Been hoping for another discount on them, but I like that ship when I see it.
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I'm still unclear why fixing the issue with incorrectly displayed type of hit flags is so difficult. Even aside from the penetration flags that do no damage and apparently don't seem to knock out a module either, there's still stuff like last night where out a single Nagato volley I landed 2 hits - recorded as an overpen and a bounce - and did ~4400 damage. Overpens do around 1/10th full damage, or roughly 1200 for a Nagato, and bounces obviously shouldn't be doing any damage at all.
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CitizenKain posted:Guess I better buy a Blyskawica. Been hoping for another discount on them, but I like that ship when I see it. It's a great DD that plays similarly to the Kiev. It's a little slower but has usable torps. Lord Koth posted:I'm still unclear why fixing the issue with incorrectly displayed type of hit flags is so difficult. Even aside from the penetration flags that do no damage and apparently don't seem to knock out a module either, there's still stuff like last night where out a single Nagato volley I landed 2 hits - recorded as an overpen and a bounce - and did ~4400 damage. Overpens do around 1/10th full damage, or roughly 1200 for a Nagato, and bounces obviously shouldn't be doing any damage at all. That bounce knocked over all the fine china in the officer's mess. e: has anyone posted videos about the armor viewer that's coming out? It looks really great. This is another iChase video that uses the armor viewer to sperg out about penetration mechanics. Godlessdonut fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Insert name here posted:There's a DD special week starting on the 4th if you want to wait like I am, hoping they discount it. Also it occurred to me they might not remove it from the online store, merely the tech tree. I wonder when 5.11 hits, because I think those ships are gone for awhile. quote:Departing with Style
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I almost forgot how frustrating it is to play a battleship in this game, at least at T5 and under. Doesn't matter how good your ranging is, shells just get shotgunned all over the ocean even in something with reasonably accurate guns like the Arkansas Beta.
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    Thought this was going to be a loss when the whole team minus the Ognevoi, Dunkerque, and myself went to one side. And the Dunkerque was there mainly because he spawned on that side and was slow getting away. Thankfully, the other team pretty much trickled into our main cap (domination) one at a time, and every single BB was giving me most of their side. The only one who bothered to angle was the last one, the New Mexico, but there wasn't much he could do alone against a faster BB with torps. Especially when we both came around the same corner at around 5km. I still ended the game on less than 5k health, thankfully NM guns can't overmatch my bow armor or it would have been a hearbreaker!  e: I am sad that I didn't have replays enabled 
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Vorkosigan posted:Looks like Ranked is coming back in Oct/Nov, with the tiers being 6 and 8. Rundown of what to expect in T6, in order of likely effectiveness- DDs 1. Farragut : US DDs own Ranked. 2. Mutsuki/Ognevoi : both don't really work for Ranked play. 3. Anshan : Nerfed Gremyaschy. CAs 1. Budyonny\Molotov : will be very popular ships this time around. 2. Cleveland : since they fixed the citadels, won't be as dominant a force. 3. Aoba : A decent ship that struggle somewhat in ranked play. 4. Nurnberg : obligatory exploding Nurnberg. BBs 1. Almost everything : Fuso/New Mex/Arizona/Bayern/Warspite will do well in Ranked T6 depending on the player skill level. 2. Dunkerque : Maybe if its guns were modeled correctly. But it'll be too easy to target to knock out its guns, and it's already too easy to damage and too easy to flank. If lower tiers are allowed: Minekaze and its sisters would probably show up. Gremyaschy comedy option. Rundown of what to expect in T8, in order of likely effectiveness- DDs 1. Benson : Will dominate the DD level, as they did last time. 2. Fubuki : Can be decent in t8 ranked but only by the fantastic players. 3. Tashkent : Not useful in current Ranked meta. CAs 1. Atago : You'll see tons of them. 2. Everything else : (Chapayev, New Orleans, Mogami, in that order) the first two for Radar. Mogami is not nearly as good as what Atago offers. 3. Kutuzov : Although it has smoke, its primary game is keep-away, it's far too fragile. Using smoke in close against other CAs/DDs will just get it torped and it has 0% bulge armor. BBs 1. Bismarck : They will be the majority of T8 Ranked BBs. It's just too good a ship for this tier cap. 2. Tirpitz : See above but torps and no hydro. 2. North Carolina : Can still put in the pain if played correctly. 3. Amagi : Can still put in work, but not like the above two in Ranked. If lower tier 7s are allowed, you may see some Blyskawicas or Scharnhorsts or Sims or Lo Yangs. Everyone playing CV would probably be in an IJN one so.
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Pacra posted:Rundown of what to expect in T6, in order of likely effectiveness- Lo Yang is tier VIII. It's a Benson C hull with Hydro and slightly fewer hitpoints. Also has the choice between Mahan 9.2km torps or faster, more damaging 6km ones. I'd expect it to do better on average than the Benson because it's better against other DDs (or anything in smoke really).
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El Disco posted:e: I am sad that I didn't have replays enabled I had a Farragut game once where I got all the medals. It was my last game without replays. Still haven't matched that performance.
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El Disco posted:Lo Yang is tier VIII. It's a Benson C hull with Hydro and slightly fewer hitpoints. Also has the choice between Mahan 9.2km torps or faster, more damaging 6km ones. I'd expect it to do better on average than the Benson because it's better against other DDs (or anything in smoke really). I knew I missed a ship 
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Well, so glad the idiotic MM is still in full force. Tierwise, teams were actually well-balanced. Spawnpoint-wise, utter and complete poo poo. My team ended up with a 3-ship division of battleships, along with a dual 1 BB/1 CA division, and spawned them both at the far west spawn point. I was the fifth BB on the team, and it of course spawned me at the far east spawn. Did I mention that the poo poo MM did the same thing for the other team, only reversed? So much fun facing down 4 battleships by yourself, especially as you can't actually tell it did that until too late to switch sides. Only consolation is I managed to hold an effective fighting retreat far longer than my unlucky counterpart on the other team. Oh, and this was on Two Brothers, so it wasn't like one side could even remotely help the other either. Also Domination, so simply playing defense on the one side wasn't an option.
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CitizenKain posted:I wonder when 5.11 hits, because I think those ships are gone for awhile.
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I've went from a 60% wr to a sub 47% over the past couple weeks. I haven't a clue what or where I'm loving up, but I'm starting to worry. It's beginning to take a serious, almost WoT like, toll on my enjoyment of the game.
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El Disco posted:
The perfect game, nice one.
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A Dunkerque decided to try and run me down in my New Orleans so I employed my secret defense and pointed my bow at him, then proceeded to ricochet all his shots off my 25mm bow armour until a North Carolina shot him in the side. Feels good mangDurendal posted:I've went from a 60% wr to a sub 47% over the past couple weeks. I haven't a clue what or where I'm loving up, but I'm starting to worry. It's beginning to take a serious, almost WoT like, toll on my enjoyment of the game. ever
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Dunkerque should have been shooting HE at you, that would have done the job nicely.Durendal posted:I've went from a 60% wr to a sub 47% over the past couple weeks. I haven't a clue what or where I'm loving up, but I'm starting to worry. It's beginning to take a serious, almost WoT like, toll on my enjoyment of the game. You can't solo carry as easily in botes as you can in tanks, because the movement is so much slower, and there's a whole lot less damage mitigation. So if you get stuck with a team of bads, there's no real way for you to park your heavily front armoured TD/HT in a corner defilade and own everyone one at a time.
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