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Keg posted:During the Chinese version of The Ultimate Fighter reality show where they compete for a UFC contract, one contestant was a yoga instructor who bad never been in a fight before. How'd he do?
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Arian_Samurai posted:How'd he do? I think a wrestling coach made him cry, so about that good.
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idk what kiai even is lolChickpea Roar posted:You mean other mma/boxing guys, right? I doubt there's many videos of mma guys getting ko'd by kiai masters or even krav maga or kung fu guys. If there are I want to see them. well sure? The fighter matters way more than the system in question. A real MMA fighter is *always* going to beat some 'master' of whatever mystical art from some mcDojo. I don't think I've ever seen a "real" Shaolin monk fight a pro MMA fighter because they don't do that so basically anything you see that claims to be real prolly isn't. And 95% of martial arts in China became theatrical wushu stuff meant for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon style shows, not actual fighting, just to further muddy the waters. The actual fighting stuff was banned for over 30 years by the Maoists. here's a hella fun fight though, kung fu dude in the red/black shorts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8hRwnTw7M but again just more indicative of that particular fighter beating another particular fighter, not that Kung Fu > Muay Thai e: but like Bruce Lee was technically an MMA fighter and idk that I'd say he isn't also a practitioner of eastern style kung fu stuffs. He just realized the Chinese theatrical spiritual bullshit was crap and took what worked and ditched the rest (which is just what MMA is anyway). Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Say Nothing posted:Giant roidy guys are fun to look at, but can really suck in the ring. bob sapp is the king in fire pro r, ive seen him critical a non legal man off the apron in a tag match once
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Roy Nelson certainly never dominated the heavyweight division, but I don't think I've ever seen a better chin.
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reminder that Roy Nelson claims to be a Kung Fu martial artist
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lol his wiki just says 'Black Belt in Kung Fu' and the citation is just his UFC fighter profile what a silly man Cung Le is who you should check out if you really want to see the Eastern stuff. He does San Da which is basically China finally starting to modernize its fighting styles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxvJCWU2xIo Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 18:58
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you'll love his fight with bisping too!!
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Zzulu posted:reminder that Roy Nelson claims to be a Kung Fu martial artist That's a pretty great picture. Moridin920 posted:lol Are you talking Eastern MA or just Eastern fighters? Cause, if it's the latter, there are a number of solid fighters across Asia that have had regional and international success, including fighters from Korea and Japan
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I'm talking about fighers who utilize a more 'eastern kung fu' style that mixes it up a bit from the regular MMA stuff you see. His kicks in particular. But yeah there's tons of fighters from Asia who are successful.
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Moridin920 posted:here's a hella fun fight though, kung fu dude in the red/black shorts: you ever see a cat catch a mouse and just play with it for a while?
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Sep 2, 2016 19:08
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Roy Nelson had pretty incredible cardio too for such a huge guy. He could go maybe a round and a half before he was done. Usually guys if his size have maybe a minute before they are done.
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doctor 7 posted:Roy Nelson had pretty incredible cardio too for such a huge guy. I loved it when he won a match and rubbed his belly with both hands in celebration.
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doctor 7 posted:Roy Nelson had pretty incredible cardio too for such a huge guy. imagine his cardio if he actually fought at featherweight where he belongs
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Zzulu posted:There are of course legit asian martial arts. Karate and Muy Thai being the big ones, but there's a lot of garbage out there also Most of it is bullshit. Moridin920 posted:The fighter matters way more than the system in question. This is really the biggest factor. Mostly hyper-aggression and conditioning which Crossfit is perfect for the type of conditioning you should have. I wrestled in high school and I wish so bad that Crossfit had existed back then because I would have been so much more in shape in the manner required.
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Just requoting the truth here, carry on...The Real Foogla posted:muscle ladies was the best thread in gbs imo
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Robot Pride posted:Most of it is bullshit. i think if crossfit had existed back then you'd be unable to move due to destroyed joints from doing the stupidest exercises on the planet
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you're just jelly of these sweet gains bro
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Robot Pride posted:Most of it is bullshit. I hear a lot of people talk up cross fit, especially some of the people I know that do combat sports/MAs on the side, but then I hear a lot of fitness people bash it as being dangerous. Seems like it must be decent for at least conditioning, albeit unsafe. Even a few fencers I know do it. Also, reading about kickboxing in the kickboxing thread makes it seem like it has some of the most ridiculous poo poo going on behind the scenes compared to even normal boxing or MMA.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:i think if crossfit had existed back then you'd be unable to move due to destroyed joints from doing the stupidest exercises on the planet - a guy that thinks every video on youtube is crossfit [pro-tip: they aren't but keep using this as an excuse to be fat. im almost 40 and have been doing crossfit for several years and have zero joint problems.]
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Zzulu posted:There are of course legit asian martial arts. Karate and Muy Thai being the big ones, but there's a lot of garbage out there also Judo and muay thai you mean.
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Fire Barrel posted:I hear a lot of people talk up cross fit, especially some of the people I know that do combat sports/MAs on the side, but then I hear a lot of fitness people bash it as being dangerous. Seems like it must be decent for at least conditioning, albeit unsafe. Even a few fencers I know do it. Crossfit is all about utilizing as many muscles as possible during an exercise. Which... okay that's a strategy. It gets dangerous because to become a crossfit instructor you need like $1000 (iirc) and to take a 2 day seminar and that's it. And the capital to open the gym. Then, these 'intructors' teach people to jack themselves up and ignore form in favor of just pushing out that last rep and it absolutely fucks people's joints and bones and poo poo up. In of itself, afaik the concept is not dangerous no. Robot Pride posted:- a guy that thinks every video on youtube is crossfit well they think they are though bc some instructor who doesn't know poo poo said they are. that's the issue with crossfit, really. although yeah obv it can be fine, too.
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Things to never admit to online posted:im almost 40 and have been doing crossfit for several years
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Robot Pride posted:- a guy that thinks every video on youtube is crossfit sorry we had a crossfit megathread for a really long time with thousands of examples of all the retarded poo poo crossfitters do and the universal realization that if you applied "That hyper aggression" toward real actual exercises you'd be much better off. If you aren't doing the body destruction stuff and instead are just working out really hard at a branded "Crossfit" gym then congrats you are a yuppie and could do the same thing literally anywhere else for 10% of the money.
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Fire Barrel posted:I hear a lot of people talk up cross fit, especially some of the people I know that do combat sports/MAs on the side, but then I hear a lot of fitness people bash it as being dangerous. Seems like it must be decent for at least conditioning, albeit unsafe. Even a few fencers I know do it. the basics of crossfit: oly lifting (C&J, snatch) power lifting (squat, deadlift) kettlebells limited plyometrics (box jumps) calisthenics (pushups, pullups, crunches) running NONE of these are dangerous to a healthy individual with proper technique. Bottom line. Some fitness people poo poo on it because it's more effective than what they are selling and they want your money.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:sorry we had a crossfit megathread for a really long time with thousands of examples of all the retarded poo poo crossfitters do and the universal realization that if you applied "That hyper aggression" toward real actual exercises you'd be much better off. sure, fat gently caress
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Robot Pride posted:the basics of crossfit: none of those are really unique to crossfit though so why would you pay to do crossfit. all those things existed before yuppies paid crazy rates to go to a gym and do them under the Crossfit brand. You can do all of that stuff by yourself except the free weights and any gym has lifting equipment.
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Robot Pride posted:the basics of crossfit: "The criticism of Cross Fit is just because it is so effective it threatens the entire industry" -Robot Pride, Unironically, 2016
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Fat Shat Sings posted:"The criticism of Cross Fit is just because it is so effective it threatens the entire industry" lol nm that tons of Crossfit people get rhabdo
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:I loved it when he won a match and rubbed his belly with both hands in celebration. My favorite Nelson moment was his Ultimate Fighter match against Kimbo Slice when he had both of Slices arm pinned and was just barely tapping him on the head and looking at the ref to stop the match because it was over as Kimbo was a PR stunt and Roy didn't want to hurt him because Kimbo was a really nice guy. That was the day that Dana White began to hate Roy Nelson.
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Moridin920 posted:lol "tons?" what the gently caress are you talking about? like 99% of the human population doesn't have the mental discipline to voluntarily induce rhabdo without plowing their car into a bridge pylon
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Robot Pride posted:the basics of crossfit: You forgot the most important part: doing all of that poo poo wrong. Moridin920 posted:you're just jelly of these sweet gains bro thats a good exercise tho brb beating the poo poo out my walls
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can you clowns please stop arguing about crossfit
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LegoPirateNinja posted:You forgot the most important part: doing all of that poo poo wrong. actual crossfit is doing it right that's like saying trap shooting is dangerous and dumb because you watch videos on youtube of people holding the shotgun backwards and shooting themselves
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wanna see a Jeet Kun Do guy destry some MMA people
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ROFLburger posted:can you clowns please stop arguing about crossfit A thing so retarded even Moridin can say something right about it, not lookin good for crossfit here
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Robot Pride posted:"tons?" lmao please like the Crossfit people don't reference "Uncle Rhabdo the Clown" in their literature ever. Rhabdo stuff is in every single level-1 instructor manual, which is tiny as gently caress to begin with you're like hyper defensive here lmao quote:The problems stem from inexperienced trainers. CrossFit level-1 trainers are certified after completing a two-day seminar and 50-multiple-choice-question exam. That’s all you need to open up a CrossFit gym and start training as many athletes as you want.
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Robot Pride posted:actual crossfit is doing it right but bro the actual issue is instructors are not adequately trained and any chucklefuck with $1000 can open a crossfit gym and be telling people how to exercise 2 day seminar and 50 question quiz is not enough training SOME instructors are fine yeah because they prolly operated gyms or whatever previously. MANY are not and are seeking to get in on the fad and make some cash.
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Robot Pride posted:Behead those who insult Crossfit!
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Sheep-Goats posted:Judo and muay thai you mean. I'm pretty sure that George Saint-Pierre got by pretty well with karate. And as for cross-fit stuff, on the surface it does seem really solid, especially considering the fact that a lot of the associated exercises aren't all that new. Hell, when I was still doing sport fencing, the coaches actually sniped some techniques for our warm up drills at the beginning of each class. Guess it's really about finding a good teacher for it.
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