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Jonny_Rocket posted:I agree with you - multiple Captain Marvels would most likely confuse the hell out of the regular movie-going audience. It's bad enough that we've had at least three different actors playing Spider-Man at this point. He said "Captain Marvel is a woman, you mean Shazam." There were other people named Captain Marvel that weren't women, but the only character in comics currently (to my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong on this) called Captain Marvel is a woman. The character that was being discussed was once called Captain Marvel and is currently called Shazam. His statement was absolutely true and, in that calling the characters by their current names instead of old names makes it easier to tell who is being discussed, helpful. He'd be just as justified in correcting someone who was talking about Carol but saying Ms Marvel; that used to be her name, but she has a different name now and someone else is using the Ms Marvel moniker.
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Lurdiak posted:I would hate to see what a Shazam movie in the style of the current DCCU would be like. 17-year old Billy Batson is fresh out of juvie and ready to get back to his rough and tumble street gang. During a gang war, he meets an old man that gives him the power of SHAZAM, transforming him into a version of himself with CGI muscles and does that ugly looking zoom thing they do in the DCEU when people go really fast at each other. Using his powers, Billy must fight the villainous Black Adam, who is now reimagined to be really wacky and quirky, with a peculiar interest in Care Bears. The movie ends after Billy punches Black Adam through the stomach, killing him. The post-credits scene is Superman showing up and asking "We have a problem... BILLY!!!"
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People care about Kree Captain Mar-Vell even less than they care about Agents of SHIELD.
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Roth posted:the villainous Black Adam, who is now reimagined to be really wacky and quirky, with a peculiar interest in Care Bears. gently caress.
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irlZaphod posted:Multiple Spider-Man actors wouldn't be so bad if they didn't keep doing the origin and Goblins. James Bond has had multiple actors and people don't get confused. They've gone on the record that they're skipping the origin this time around.
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Sefer posted:He said "Captain Marvel is a woman, you mean Shazam." There were other people named Captain Marvel that weren't women, but the only character in comics currently (to my knowledge, correct me if I'm wrong on this) called Captain Marvel is a woman. The character that was being discussed was once called Captain Marvel and is currently called Shazam. His statement was absolutely true and, in that calling the characters by their current names instead of old names makes it easier to tell who is being discussed, helpful. He'd be just as justified in correcting someone who was talking about Carol but saying Ms Marvel; that used to be her name, but she has a different name now and someone else is using the Ms Marvel moniker. https://imgur.com/a/z232q She isn't the only one who had the name of Captain Marvel. It's been discussed to death at this point though, so let's just move on. I'm psyched that Happy Hogan is returning in Spider-Man, as I didn't think we would see any more of him since the Iron Man movies are pretty much done at this point. Yvonmukluk posted:They've gone on the record that they're skipping the origin this time around. Thankful this will be the case. Uncle Ben's death is almost as overdone as the death of Bruce Wayne's parents! At this point almost everyone knows the origin of Spider-Man, if they do anything at all it should be like how The Incredible Hulk handled it (in the beginning credits). Jonny_Rocket fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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They already made offhand mention of what happened with Uncle Ben anyway in Civil War, and that was the best way to handle it.
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Also, the main villain seems to the Vulture instead of the Goblin. I am also sick to death of the Goblin, but who knows how the Vulture will work out? He's not inherently amazing, but he's a total blank slate that they can change around without too many fans crying. It would be pretty funny if they went with the original "youth stealing powers" version. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 15:14
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I feel like they'd have to spice up The Vulture to make it interesting for a dude who already fought The Falcon while fighting several other superheroes at the same time.
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Sep 2, 2016 15:25
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What if the Vulture was also his high school principal!
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Vulture has potential to be spiced up even just by incorporating things from the comics he's already done. His anti-grav tech can and has given him incredible (simulated) strength or allow him to levitate things, like if he planted his feet on top of a bus and the bus then becomes light as air for him to swoop away with. Basically look at The Wizard and steal all of those ideas anti-grav ideas since it's not likely an FF movie is going to be using that guy any time soon. Or have some kind of wind ability using his wings, which he already used in a very limited way back in Spider-Man's first Annual. The concept art makes it look as though he has propeller fans in his wings, which would help.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Also, the main villain seems to the Vulture instead of the Goblin. Vulture's not too exciting but he is a classic villain at least. As long as Homecoming isn't a mess like ASM2 was, I'm down.
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I hope that he has a pet one of these that perches on his shoulder while he monologues evilly: https://www.google.com/search?q=bearded+vulture&tbm=isch
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greatn posted:What if the Vulture was also his high school principal! Nope, that's Kenneth Choi http://www.newsarama.com/29681-report-spider-man-homecoming-finds-its-high-school-principal-in-captain-america-s-howling-commandos.html
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I hope Homecoming is a really low stakes movie about Peter just trying to get to dance with MJ at the homecoming dance and between songs he keeps having to disappear to fight d-list villains to keep them from crashing the dance. Eventually he messes up and MJ finds out his secret identity but she's into it like in Ultimate Spider-Man. I don't want New York or God forbid, the entire world to be in danger. I just want to watch a teen comedy/romance with frequent superhero fights.
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Travis343 posted:I hope Homecoming is a really low stakes movie about Peter just trying to get to dance with MJ at the homecoming dance and between songs he keeps having to disappear to fight d-list villains to keep them from crashing the dance. Eventually he messes up and MJ finds out his secret identity but she's into it like in Ultimate Spider-Man. I don't want New York or God forbid, the entire world to be in danger. I just want to watch a teen comedy/romance with frequent superhero fights. Absolutely agree. If there's another one of those "end of the world" scenarios with a blue light beam in the sky, I'm just going to be like: 
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Aren't they trying to make a John Hughes movie? I wouldn't worry too much.
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mikeraskol posted:Aren't they trying to make a John Hughes movie? I wouldn't worry too much. Just like Winter Soldier was a 70s political spy thriller.
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MacheteZombie posted:Just like Winter Soldier was a 70s political spy thriller. I still have no idea why people get so bent out of shape about that.
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CineD and some people in BSS are the only places I see people really upset about that comment. I think some people have an issue distinguishing between "Aping themes and style inspiration from a genre" and "this action movie from 2014 was only minimally political and not released in the 1970's at all!"
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I wonder if anyone got mad at Nicholas Winding Refn for saying that Drive was a crypto-remake of Sixteen Candles
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I think some people have an issue distinguishing between "Aping themes and style inspiration from a genre" and "this action movie from 2014 was only minimally political and not released in the 1970's at all!" Pretty much. I love the movie, but there's no doubt that the final product is a watered down version of a  political thriller, if you could even call it that. It evoked some of the style, but had virtually nothing in regards to substance. Maybe people are triggered because Robert Redford (who has been in a bunch of political thrillers) was in the film and they were expecting more.
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I hope the Shocker role in the movie is solely as a bond style opening across all three films as a total jobber like in USM. Maybe even have him succeed in catching Peter in the third like that one USM issue
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I can't believe I have to say this, but Bond openings have something to do with the main plot and aren't throwaway action scenes.
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Jonny_Rocket posted:https://imgur.com/a/z232q Man, I specifically said that there had been past Captain Marvels, so I don't know why you think I didn't know about that one. Tense matters. There are others that had the name, but there's only one that has the name, and he was speaking in the present tense.
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Sefer posted:Man, I specifically said that there had been past Captain Marvels, so I don't know why you think I didn't know about that one. Tense matters. There are others that had the name, but there's only one that has the name, and he was speaking in the present tense. Fair enough. My apologies - I wasn't up to my morning coffee quota, so I misread. I don't think Aphrodite was speaking in present tense, but whatever. Let's move on. Jonny_Rocket fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Discussion like this is why I come to BSS. Literally everyone I've ever talked to considers WS to be far and away the best of the MCU. Possibly even the GOAT superhero film. Now I know there are people who who found something to hate about it. Travis343 posted:I hope Homecoming is a really low stakes movie about Peter just trying to get to dance with MJ at the homecoming dance and between songs he keeps having to disappear to fight d-list villains to keep them from crashing the dance. Eventually he messes up and MJ finds out his secret identity but she's into it like in Ultimate Spider-Man. I don't want New York or God forbid, the entire world to be in danger. I just want to watch a teen comedy/romance with frequent superhero fights. I'm down for that. I would really love to see Spider-Man maintain a secret identity for one movie, just for the novelty, but I guess I could let it go.
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SonicRulez posted:Discussion like this is why I come to BSS. Literally everyone I've ever talked to considers WS to be far and away the best of the MCU. Possibly even the GOAT superhero film. Now I know there are people who who found something to hate about it. In the first Raimi Spider-Man he does technically maintain his secret identity from everyone except Norman.
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Yeah it's only the second one where he can't keep his mask on for 2 goddamn seconds.
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MJ had a little suspicious look at the end there but she doesn't really find out until the end of 2.
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Travis343 posted:MJ had a little suspicious look at the end there but she doesn't really find out until the end of 2. Didn't Aunt May in SM2 heavily hint that she knew as well?
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I'm honestly just impressed that Peter didn't accidently drop a bunch of business cards at every major newspaper in the city with "PETER PARKER AKA SPIDER-MAN (YES, THAT ONE)" on it. The villains are somehow the only people in the Raimi Spider-Man movies with functioning eyes or the most minimal amount of logic.
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It's been like a decade since I've watched it but i thought mj figures out who he is in 1 because they kiss
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site posted:It's been like a decade since I've watched it but i thought mj figures out who he is in 1 because they kiss She technically doesn't because she gushes about Spider-Man as a separate person in 2 and gives Peter poo poo about things that wouldn't make sense if she knew. But then she also is basically like "I always knew!" at the end of 2, so who knows! Maybe she is just a jerk and wanted to give Peter anxiety?
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 Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:She technically doesn't because she gushes about Spider-Man as a separate person in 2 and gives Peter poo poo about things that wouldn't make sense if she knew. "Somehow I always knew" is such a cop-out. Either you know or you don't, rear end in a top hat! I always hated that kinda thing where they do a zoom on the love interest and it looks like she might know but keeps acting like she doesn't. Smallville did that for like 6 seasons.
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site posted:It's been like a decade since I've watched it but i thought mj figures out who he is in 1 because they kiss Don't they imply in the second one that she suspects John Jameson is Spider-Man and only realises that he isn't when she re-enacts the upside-down kiss? Lurdiak posted:"Somehow I always knew" is such a cop-out. Either you know or you don't, rear end in a top hat! I always hated that kinda thing where they do a zoom on the love interest and it looks like she might know but keeps acting like she doesn't. Smallville did that for like 6 seasons. Better or worse than Joseph Gordon-Levitt knowing that Bruce Wayne was Batman because he could see it in his eyes when he was a kid?
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Wheat Loaf posted:Better or worse than Joseph Gordon-Levitt knowing that Bruce Wayne was Batman because he could see it in his eyes when he was a kid? I have no problem with that. Sometimes you can recognize someone just by a turn of phrase or actions that reflect their personal philosophy. Sure it's a little over the top in its Nolan-ness but I don't know why people had such a problem with it.
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Batman philosophy was growling, incidentally.
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Lurdiak posted:"Somehow I always knew" is such a cop-out. Either you know or you don't, rear end in a top hat! I always hated that kinda thing where they do a zoom on the love interest and it looks like she might know but keeps acting like she doesn't. Smallville did that for like 6 seasons. eh, it makes sense in the same way people after a disaster always say "I had a bad feeling that day." people read things into other things retroactively.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Didn't Aunt May in SM2 heavily hint that she knew as well?
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