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Chokes McGee posted:This may be a dumb question, but is Jill Stein even left? Literally the only thing I've seen her advocate are anti-vax and being a moron in politics. The green party actually has a ton of leftist stuff in their platform. The problem is that there is also a bunch of  stuff in there, just like every other fringe party. That, and Jill Stein being a pretty awful candidate (though better Cynthia McKinney!).Mr Jaunts posted:I was recently approached by a guy trying to collect signatures to get Stein on the ballot in November. He described her as, and I quote, "between the Democrats and the Libertarians." This is totally bonkers though. The Greens are pretty far from the libertarians by any reasonable metric.
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The funny thing, and I'm sure this isn't a new take, but Trump is probably less healthy if the doctor who did his physical is any indication. Guys looks like the Dude if he was a cokehead. Meanwhile... http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-taco-trucks-on-every-corner-immigration-plan-2016-9
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Mr Jaunts posted:I was recently approached by a guy trying to collect signatures to get Stein on the ballot in November. He described her as, and I quote, "between the Democrats and the Libertarians." Probably you have to make a 4D or 5D graph of political parties to draw this conclusion.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:But Dr.Drew is concerned Actually, he was shilling for Welbutrin during his Loveline days, so he's just an all around dickhead.
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withak posted:Probably you have to make a 4D or 5D graph of political parties to draw this conclusion. Just a knight's move away on the 11D chessboard!
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Good news: the 538 Nowcast and Polls-Only Forecast have completely converged and are exactly the same number. Bad news: that number is only at 72.1% for a Clinton win. Obviously, there's nothing concrete about this, but the two have been very close together for awhile, so it's interesting to see them line up completely two months out. It also seems like a good point to compare Nate's forecasting methods to the other sites and see what everyone's doing right/wrong.
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zoux posted:If you think the NYT is a good source on this story, see if you can find the lie here Read footnotes loving idiots!!!
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So is Trey Gowdy getting a promotion next term? Seems like he deserves one.
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lmao awhile ago now but I wanted to say I appreciated this. You're alright, imperial.
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zoux posted:If you think the NYT is a good source on this story, see if you can find the lie here Lol he has since admitted he hosed up, but didn't actually remove the tweet or make t obvious this tweet is wrong.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol he has since admitted he hosed up, but didn't actually remove the tweet or make t obvious this tweet is wrong. Cillizza is trash.
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zoux posted:Cillizza is trash.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:So is Trey Gowdy getting a promotion next term? Seems like he deserves one. His head is supposed to graduate from bullet to dildo any time now.
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WampaLord posted:Actually, he was shilling for Welbutrin during his Loveline days, so he's just an all around dickhead. Yeah but it rarely came up after a certain period. Not that it makes it okay, but he's a far bigger pain in the rear end now that he's got multiple TV shows and News networks constantly ask him his opinion. Celeb Rehab particularly bugged me, it felt like it was largely making bad situations worse.
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re: anyone complaining about long sentences to drug dealers. The reason you give them such crazy long sentences if you can confirm they're an actual dealer is so someone can't just deal drugs for half a year and net half a mil, launder the money, then only spend half a year in jail to collect it legally.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:re: anyone complaining about long sentences to drug dealers. The reason you give them such crazy long sentences if you can confirm they're an actual dealer is so someone can't just deal drugs for half a year and net half a mil, launder the money, then only spend half a year in jail to collect it legally. That's not true in any sense. Like pretty much all parts of it are wrong. This is Trump level logic. I'd suggest reading about both the history of drug laws and also civil asset forfeiture.
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afeelgoodpoop posted:re: anyone complaining about long sentences to drug dealers. The reason you give them such crazy long sentences if you can confirm they're an actual dealer is so someone can't just deal drugs for half a year and net half a mil, launder the money, then only spend half a year in jail to collect it legally. Have 2 nanograms of weed on you? Intent to distribute. Guilty.
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That might be an outcome of locking up drug dealers for 20 years but it ain't the reason. The reason is Reagan.
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zoux posted:If you think the NYT is a good source on this story, see if you can find the lie here lol 17 thousand emails forwarded by someone not clinton to someone else not clinton INPEACH
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zoux posted:That might be an outcome of locking up drug dealers for 20 years but it ain't the reason. And Nixon.  But yeah, mostly Reagan.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:lol 17 thousand emails forwarded by someone not clinton to someone else not clinton This is the part that frustrates me the most. Any "emails" related to Clinton are "Clinton Emails" now. Except emails are loving a core document these days and emails never sent or received by her get counted as her emails now. Will the press continue this in a potential Clinton administration? Will every single FOIA for emails from the federal government be framed as "the Clinton email scandals expand to the EPA as Clinton administration officials have refused to release all emails pertaining to the environment to the RNC"
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Trabisnikof posted:Will the press continue this in a potential Clinton administration? Yes. Trabisnikof posted:Will every single FOIA for emails from the federal government be framed as "the Clinton email scandals expand to the EPA as Clinton administration officials have refused to release all emails pertaining to the environment to the RNC" Judicial Watch wouldn't be Judicial Watch if they didn't.
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Portland Korean/Mexican fusion food cart empire has been pretty good on Twitter re this. https://twitter.com/KOifusionpdx/status/771789609055379456
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Trabisnikof posted:This is the part that frustrates me the most. Any "emails" related to Clinton are "Clinton Emails" now. Except emails are loving a core document these days and emails never sent or received by her get counted as her emails now. Can I file a FOIA for the express purpose of checking for Congress Critters shopping lists or something else inane. I know I can't get anything labeled classified but I want all the other crap. FOR RESEARCH INTO AMERICA. I bet Hillary just stops using email completely. I would. Just dictate and have my underling of the day send the email.
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zoux posted:When was the last time Paul Ryan uttered the word "Trump" Pretty sure the last time he had a press conference and a reporter asked him about a Trump quote and he said he hasn't heard it yet. Then the reporter is like, "I've got it right here, want me to read it?" and Ryan was all "NOOOOOOO!"
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VikingofRock posted:The green party actually has a ton of leftist stuff in their platform. The problem is that there is also a bunch of Halfway between the Democrats and Libertarians is just certain shades of Republican
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zoux posted:In which Chris Cillizza accidentally says his guiding journalistic principle out loud gee, then it's probably good that she never sent any classified E-mails while she was in a foreign country
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Chokes McGee posted:This may be a dumb question, but is Jill Stein even left? Literally the only thing I've seen her advocate are anti-vax and being a moron in politics. Stein's platform Yes, she's very "left". It's important that we don't play No True Scotsman with liberals we don't like.
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theflyingorc posted:gee, then it's probably good that she never sent any classified E-mails while she was in a foreign country Actually, the more I think about it, running her own server has nothing to do with this, right? You go from phone -> server -> other people's E-mail. The part compromised on a foreign network is the phone -> server step, what server it's going to has nothing to do with the level of danger (unless it was totally unencrypted communication)
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Deified Data posted:Stein's platform Do you differentiate between liberals and the left? I'm not asking to be a dick, some people don't think it's a valuable distinction in the US.
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Internet Webguy posted:Pretty sure the last time he had a press conference and a reporter asked him about a Trump quote and he said he hasn't heard it yet. Then the reporter is like, "I've got it right here, want me to read it?" and Ryan was all "NOOOOOOO!" Supposedly some Rs are literally jumping fences to get away from reporters that ask about the latest poo poo Trump just shat. Who ever said white men can't jump were wrong. God I wished there were videos of this stuff. But alas we just have that Dreamer/immigrant girl asking Rand Paul and him leaving his burger lunch.gif
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theflyingorc posted:Actually, the more I think about it, running her own server has nothing to do with this, right? IIRC the reason Blackberry's were so widely used for so long was that the Blackberry network was encrypted or some poo poo
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Courtesy of the Young Dems...
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PhazonLink posted:alas we just have that Dreamer/immigrant girl asking Rand Paul and him leaving his burger lunch.gif Hahaha I forgot about that, does anyone have that handy?
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CroatianAlzheimers posted:Courtesy of the Young Dems... i approve and want this as a sticker
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