Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men
I used an Xecuter 3 solderless chip which was great if you were like me and wanted to mod your Xbox, but didn't want to pay anyone to do it and were scared to death of breaking something. The Xbox mod scene had everything setup so well. Easy to follow instructions, forums, and FAQs for everything. Even installing your own hard drive and locking it in case you wanted to use it for XBL was super easy.

Buying a used Xbox just to mod it was the best thing I ever did for my home theatre. I was downloading a bunch torrents and just wanted to watch them in the living room easily with a remote. XBMP was pretty much the only option to do that. Once you got everything set up it was actually way easier to use than having a full on PC hooked up to your tv. Emulators worked great. And it was nice to rent Xbox games and just open a program and click one button to copy it to the hard drive.

I still miss that setup whenever I try to get Kodi in the FireTV stick to connect via SMB to a Windows 10 PC. It straight up doesn't work and it super frustrating considering I've been using that software to connect to Windows for over a decade without issue.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

nigga crab pollock posted:

The menu system is used for the squad ai I think? (literally no clue what that entire feature is or how to use it since there's no documentation) that and the weapon mode switching that I want to get rid of anyways. Maybe? in fact I don't even really know what's up with it

Could you try and gut the bad code? Idk if it even important. Hell, maybe the old compiler just ignored the error and the version of the mod has that entire feature broken and the newer compilers throw a shitfit

Looking at the makefile thing I might be able to just comment out all the bot poo poo. I'll give it a go tomorrow. You need plat or something so I can stop making GBS threads up this thread. :v:

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
oh my god i figured it out. gmqcc has different modes and this poo poo is not compatible in default, you have to run it in 'original quake c.' i kept hitting the same weird error like you said and i ended up finding people complaining about the source code and what compilers didn't work

i still had to gut the poo poo out of the code to get rid of the squad modifications but it compiles!

the source code is absolutely not the same version as the distributed since there's some weird broken poo poo due to filename discrepancies and some weird differences

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

Xbox modding was a great time. Such a feeling of accomplishment when you got a new install on the menus started populating. Eventually, I got everything down to exactly the way I wanted it, and just made the whole thing a disk image so I could bang out a couple of consoles a night. That copy of 007: Agent Under Fire made me quite a bit of money for a couple of years.

TTerrible
Jul 15, 2005

nigga crab pollock posted:

oh my god i figured it out. gmqcc has different modes and this poo poo is not compatible in default, you have to run it in 'original quake c.' i kept hitting the same weird error like you said and i ended up finding people complaining about the source code and what compilers didn't work

i still had to gut the poo poo out of the code to get rid of the squad modifications but it compiles!

the source code is absolutely not the same version as the distributed since there's some weird broken poo poo due to filename discrepancies and some weird differences

That is very weird. I tried the -std=qcc flag and it barfed even more than normal. The readme says something about how the standard compiler can't compile it.

Alls well that ends well :unsmith:

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Are they still making new versions of XBMC (or whatever it's called) for the original Xbox

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

EugeneJ posted:

Are they still making new versions of XBMC (or whatever it's called) for the original Xbox

Last I knew it changed name to Kodi to avoid the stigma (and potential lawsuits) of being linked to a system as old as the Xbox

Tato
Jun 19, 2001

DIRECTIVE 236: Promote pro-social values
I played through all of Turok through n64 emulation literally a week before the remaster appeared out of nowhere on steam. Glad I did or else I would have spent money on a game I remembered liking but is actually awful.

That said, the choking sound effects and blood spurts that happen when you shoot a guy in the neck in that game make for one of the most hardcore FPS enemy deaths even with the terrible n64 era models.

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


EugeneJ posted:

Are they still making new versions of XBMC (or whatever it's called) for the original Xbox


apparently the latest release was in february 2016 so yeah i guess so

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

Tato posted:

I played through all of Turok through n64 emulation literally a week before the remaster appeared out of nowhere on steam. Glad I did or else I would have spent money on a game I remembered liking but is actually awful.

That said, the choking sound effects and blood spurts that happen when you shoot a guy in the neck in that game make for one of the most hardcore FPS enemy deaths even with the terrible n64 era models.

Sorry but Turok is great :colbert:

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

Mak0rz posted:

Sorry but Turok is great :colbert:

Yeah and the PC remaster is a really nice improvement on it. It plays way better with new mouse+keyboard controls and the pushed back fog makes areas look a lot nicer and also feel a lot less maze-like. I wouldn't pay the 20bux regular price but it's not a bad pick on discount. I'm really looking forward to what they do with Turok 2.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

nigga crab pollock posted:

yeah this is the zip that comes with the mod

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByI0OQ-Q0eW7Yy1LR1JZYVp4ckk

it has the compiler he used included but its 16 bit and loving ancient ...

Some things occurred to me about this post:

Why are you complaining about it being "loving ancient", I thought we were all here because we love stuff that is loving ancient?

Is the problem that you're running 64-bit Windows? Is it a DOS application? If both of these are true then there are probably not-too-hard ways of making it easy enough to still run it. I don't know if you can get DOSBox to pass parameters through to an application it runs, but MS-DOS Player for Win32-x64 might be suitable, this post which is fortunately for me in English explains how you can wrap a DOS .exe file into a Win32 or Win64 .exe file.

I know you already solved the problem but thought I'd point out this alternative solution anyway.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Gobblecoque posted:

Yeah and the PC remaster is a really nice improvement on it. It plays way better with new mouse+keyboard controls and the pushed back fog makes areas look a lot nicer and also feel a lot less maze-like. I wouldn't pay the 20bux regular price but it's not a bad pick on discount. I'm really looking forward to what they do with Turok 2.

I never got past the swamp in Turok 2 because by then I'd played some PC FPS games and, no, just couldn't. Give me some remastered CEREBRAL BORE.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

drunk asian neighbor posted:

OK, I think I kind of understand what's going on. I don't suppose either of you have a link handy to an article on how video outputs work on older systems? It's pretty interesting to me that the raw video on a game is substantially different from what actually shows up on-screen.

Sorry, I actually don't know much about it! I'd be interested in knowing more too, actually. The retro gaming thread might be a good place to ask, if it's still going.

doctorfrog posted:

I never got past the swamp in Turok 2 because by then I'd played some PC FPS games and, no, just couldn't. Give me some remastered CEREBRAL BORE.

That level's music is something else:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObzyVBobrg

(really picks up at the 1:50 mark)

Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 07:18 on Sep 3, 2016

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Buttcoin purse posted:

Some things occurred to me about this post:

Why are you complaining about it being "loving ancient", I thought we were all here because we love stuff that is loving ancient?

Is the problem that you're running 64-bit Windows? Is it a DOS application? If both of these are true then there are probably not-too-hard ways of making it easy enough to still run it. I don't know if you can get DOSBox to pass parameters through to an application it runs, but MS-DOS Player for Win32-x64 might be suitable, this post which is fortunately for me in English explains how you can wrap a DOS .exe file into a Win32 or Win64 .exe file.

I know you already solved the problem but thought I'd point out this alternative solution anyway.

it was a twenty year old program with 16 bit constraints with modern 64 bit alternatives available. why bother

there is no glory or charm or really any way a compiler from 1997 is going to be better than a modern one besides accidentally parsing broken code. the code was hosed anyways, that was the problem.

nigga crab pollock has a new favorite as of 07:47 on Sep 3, 2016

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry

drunk asian neighbor posted:

OK, I think I kind of understand what's going on. I don't suppose either of you have a link handy to an article on how video outputs work on older systems? It's pretty interesting to me that the raw video on a game is substantially different from what actually shows up on-screen.

It's not exactly what you are looking for, but related. A quite interesting pair of videos explaining how graphics was done back in the days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfh0ytz8S0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsycfDliZU

To see some of the effect, compare how CGA graphics can be done using composite and lots of modern knowledge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHXx3orN35Y

And another video from the same guy explaining why it works. This is similar to what happens on composite out (basically, composite sucks and blends, and if you know exactly how, you can abuse it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niKblgZupOc

There's also a bunch of articles about how the 8088 MPH demo is done, including how they get colors by exploiting the composite blending at https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2015/04/12/8088-mph-how-it-came-about/; especially http://8088mph.blogspot.nl/2015/04/cga-in-1024-colors-new-mode-illustrated.html and http://www.reenigne.org/blog/1k-colours-on-cga-how-its-done/

klafbang has a new favorite as of 10:42 on Sep 3, 2016

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Excellent post; those videos are really good and informative.

EVIL Gibson
Mar 23, 2001

Internet of Things is just someone else's computer that people can't help attaching cameras and door locks to!
:vapes:
Switchblade Switcharoo
Hello

In the year 2004 this fan blower made sense.



"I have a lot of empty slots, why not get lots of air moving between them!"

I forgot if those fans blow out or suck in; pretty sure it was the latter.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Oh those fans suck alright

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Those remind me of the stock Dell fans/fan housings

Say what you want about the overall quality of their systems, the OEM guys had some great features sometimes. Those plastic clips that let you hot-swap hard drives and other bays were awesome.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!

EVIL Gibson posted:

Hello

In the year 2004 this fan blower made sense.



"I have a lot of empty slots, why not get lots of air moving between them!"

I forgot if those fans blow out or suck in; pretty sure it was the latter.

Hey now you don't want your sweet Athlon rig to overheat, do you :ohdear:


e: that sick double-blower cooler at 58 seconds though :pcgaming:

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I remember when that video was new, it didn't take long before motherboards included emergency temperature power cut features :haw:

And AMD fixed their poo poo pretty well with the Athlon 64, it's a shame they never managed to regain their lead after they finally lost the performance crown to the newer Pentium M based intel chips.

The whole intel/AMD relationship is pretty weird, there's a ton of technology and patent sharing going on behind the scenes even though they are technically fierce competitors.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



drunk asian neighbor posted:

Those remind me of the stock Dell fans/fan housings

Say what you want about the overall quality of their systems, the OEM guys had some great features sometimes. Those plastic clips that let you hot-swap hard drives and other bays were awesome.

I have an Optiplex in a closet for a Plex server and the blue HD caddies are pretty sweet. Airflow sucks though, they shoved them in the bottom of the case with only 1 fan, an 80mm exhaust, in the whole system.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Bovril Delight posted:

I have an Optiplex in a closet for a Plex server and the blue HD caddies are pretty sweet. Airflow sucks though, they shoved them in the bottom of the case with only 1 fan, an 80mm exhaust, in the whole system.

Yeah, the airflow is terrible, my drives used to get really hot. I used to think Dell cases were nice but I guess it's because I was comparing to the cheapest generic cases available rather than good brand cases.

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



I bought an $11 fan controller that plugs into SATA and has 6 fan connectors. It has an off setting as well as low and high. The front grill works well to zip tie a fan on, I put a 140mm there and it's done wonders to drop the HD temps. Not the prettiest but it's in a closet.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
The motherboard SATA data port? That sounds kinda unorthodox

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Three-Phase posted:

The motherboard SATA data port? That sounds kinda unorthodox

Sorry, the power connector.

SMAKN PC Fan Hub Supports 6 Ports 12V 3pin Fan Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015BY38MG

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
navy seals status:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93b6F5GHHm8

forking a twenty year old codebase :rms:

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva

Mechanism Eight posted:

e: that sick double-blower cooler at 58 seconds though :pcgaming:

I had one of these back in the day:


It was reasonably quiet and cooled pretty well provided you didn't run it at full speed. The included bracket was either for your free front 3.5" slot(because you only needed one floppy drive) and there was also a bracket included to install it on the back in a spare slot(Like in front of that ISA slot on your motherboard that you didn't really need anymore)

But this one always looked even more awesome:



Had a white blinking LED on front and a red LED in the back and true to its name was pretty drat loud too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfmTeJRE6dE

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

EugeneJ posted:

Are they still making new versions of XBMC (or whatever it's called) for the original Xbox

Yes http://www.xbmc4xbox.org.uk/

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

nigga crab pollock posted:

navy seals status:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93b6F5GHHm8

forking a twenty year old codebase :rms:

Bitchin'! :dukedog:

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

nigga crab pollock posted:

navy seals status:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93b6F5GHHm8

forking a twenty year old codebase :rms:

I love the sounds of the MP5 and the shotgun in that mod. What are removing from the weapons code? Hopefully not the Mode switch.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Techmoan has a piece of hi-fi equipment from the early 70s and holy hell, look at how clean it's laid out when he finally opens it up (11:50).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCIdufSGS8

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Tubesock Holocaust posted:

Techmoan has a piece of hi-fi equipment from the early 70s and holy hell, look at how clean it's laid out when he finally opens it up (11:50).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCIdufSGS8

Yeah my dad gave me some SAE rack-mount stuff he's had forever and it is all incredibly solid. Not quite as old as the one in that video though.

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
hahahaha

code:
           self.attack_finished = time + 9999; //ugly hack, but lets you hold the grenade almost indefinately
           //(if you want to hold the attack button for a few hours, go right ahead hehe)
i haven't removed anything but squad stuff, and that was just to get it to compile. i just wanted to add weapon knockback, make the pistol not use shotgun shells, and fix precache errors

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Tubesock Holocaust posted:

Techmoan has a piece of hi-fi equipment from the early 70s and holy hell, look at how clean it's laid out when he finally opens it up (11:50).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkCIdufSGS8

More things need oscilloscopes.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Oh man, those tiny nixie tubes and that tuning knob. Perfect.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


A personal tech relic I saw when I first joined the company I work at now was the little portable Philips CD/Tape/Radio in the warehouse.

It was the exact model I bought when I was maybe 12. sadly mine has died by now.

That loving thing is sitting there in a warehouse collecting dust blaring out music 24/7 and probably been around for 20 years.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Some of my co-workers were amazed at this innovative piece of technology they witnessed me using today:

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Jerry Cotton posted:

Some of my co-workers were amazed at this innovative piece of technology they witnessed me using today:



Surely that amazing discovery can bring about world peace.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply