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Observe Me posted:Expected the tape to do something, but didn't expect it to be a plot item to get someone back to the house to find.....SOMETHING! Krime posted:Was expecting a "Bonsoir, Elliot." At the end there Steve112sms posted:Anyway I think the point of that scene was to make the audience uncertain as to whether Angela was just being paranoid or if E-Corp has a plant in the NRC and was going to take her out. Megaspel posted:So I just binged through both seasons and I think it's safe to say that the entire show is just an elaborate fantasy an autistic Elliot made up while staring into a snow globe with an E Corp building inside. Paperhouse posted:I don't mind the use of them, but you can tell that it's probably not someone that interesting at the door because it would be a much better cliffhanger to reveal who it was otherwise. Like, if it was Tyrell or something, then that's much better being the last shot of an episode rather than the first shot of the next one.
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Escobarbarian posted:I'm so confused about whether or not Fight Club the movie is actually meant to be satirical about masculinity and "gently caress the system maaaan" and stuff. I had assumed it was for years until I actually rewatched it recently and all the "all-singing all- dancing crap of the world" type of poo poo seems to be played legitimately earnestly. Plus why would Fincher disavow it so much if he viewed it as a satire all along? Anyway, if I'm remembering the scene right, the movie is telling you in a pretty literal way that he's off the rails, not just because of Tyler, but because he's talking crazy-talk. Point is, they really were trying to make a satirical movie. Whether they succeeded or not is debatable though, because stuff like that is hard to catch (I think I heard someone point it out in a commentary; may've been in an article I read though). AtraMorS fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Sep 2, 2016 14:58
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drat they aren't even trying to hide the fact that she's a blowjob queen
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Sep 2, 2016 15:01
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With regards to cliffhangers, remember that most of the people who watch the show are going to be doing it in a binge-watch at some point later. So it's really just a technique to get a person to start up the next video. Annoying, yes, but come on guys, we can live with it.
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Sep 2, 2016 15:04
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I'm intrigued what the hell the mysterious plant is doing 🤔
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Tenzarin posted:Did he take the dog for that reason? The dude was being a real dick head to the dog when he took it out to go to the bathroom which Elliot saw. ashpanash posted:With regards to cliffhangers, remember that most of the people who watch the show are going to be doing it in a binge-watch at some point later. So it's really just a technique to get a person to start up the next video. Goosebumps had the worst cliff hangers ever!
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Mr. Powers posted:I have this nagging feeling that they are building up to something completely fictional. The show has been pretty grounded in reality, but I really just have a feeling they are going either sci-fi or supernatural with Washington Township. Wether they do or don't, I will be entertained. Same, I posted about this after White Rose alternative dimension talk. I had that feeling for half a second when Rome went on a ramble about the Arcade being some vortex of Evil. Of course I discarded it than but some of the recent events are pretty spooky. Also Sam Esmail saying the "enduring mystery" of Lynch's Twin Peaks as being his biggest (television) inspiration in an interview made me feel that Mr.Robot might go into a sort of Lynchian metaphysics. Just a possibility though,. This season is definitely focusing on evocative moods more than hard gritty politics.
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Sep 2, 2016 21:15
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I finally got around to watching Stranger Things this week and finished it Tuesday night. Wednesday's Mr. Robot episode was a little unsettling when the brownouts started.
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Sep 2, 2016 21:40
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AtraMorS posted:Sorry that this is from a few pages back (had to watch the episode before catching up with the thread), but that scene is the one where the film comes out of joint, right? I don't know the right words for it; like, the frame starts vibrating and you can see the whatchacallits--those holes in a film reel than run along the sides that are used to feed it through the projector--on the screen for a second or two. I haven't really read up much on Fincher's post-Fight Club assessment of the film, but I figure he's pretty resentful of the culture it created especially since it obviously is a satire. There's one story I do know about his daughter telling him her friend Max at school called Fight Club his favorite movie and Fincher's response was "Don't ever talk to Max again." ashpanash posted:With regards to cliffhangers, remember that most of the people who watch the show are going to be doing it in a binge-watch at some point later. So it's really just a technique to get a person to start up the next video. poo poo, Charles Dickens used to pull bullshit cliffhangers all the time when his books were being written as serials. "Oh no the cops are here, Pip!" "Just kidding, they're here to deliver a holiday ham! On to something completely unrelated." Was it 24 that got everybody wild about cliffhangers at the end of every episode? I'd say Mr. Robot is a 50/50 chance if an episode is gonna end on a cliffhanger or not.
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Sep 2, 2016 21:40
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I think it's more like 25/75. Having an unresolved story at the end of an episode happens a lot but true "must see next episode now!" cliffhangers aren't all that common.
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Sep 2, 2016 22:32
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Hey game dudes, Cohen hosed off on me three days ago and I don't have options to text anyone. Is there something I'm missing or did the game break on me?
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Sep 2, 2016 23:22
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My friend started watching this and he didn't guess anything that happened. Now he started season 2 and he guesses right away that his whole routine life isn't real. I just wanted to say "Shut up you're gonna ruin it"
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Highblood posted:My friend started watching this and he didn't guess anything that happened. Now he started season 2 and he guesses right away that his whole routine life isn't real. I just wanted to say "Shut up you're gonna ruin it" You know I really didn't feel like Esmail was intending people to not guess that something was not as it seemed with Elliot's story. Even in season 1 I've seen a lot of people feel like the Elliot/Mr. Robot duality was pretty obvious. Maybe some people didn't see it coming, but I think the reveal in season 1 was pretty telegraphed not that it is a bad thing either. The great part about the reveal in both seasons is that they still both work and are incredibly satisfying even if you've guessed what is going to happen.
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This guy posted:Hey game dudes, Cohen hosed off on me three days ago and I don't have options to text anyone. Is there something I'm missing or did the game break on me? I'm in same boat and from browsing reddit about issue I think we are hosed
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In season one, everyone was so fixated on the expected Mr Robot reveal that they didn't see the Darlene sibling twist. This show is art.
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Nobody saw the Darlene twist coming because it makes no goddamn sense. It's a complete out-of-the-rear end pull for the show to go "oh yeah, so actually Elliott doesn't realize huge chunks of reality, bee tee dubs" - and a testament to the show's writing that they still made it work.
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^ It made perfect sense. SpaceAceJase posted:This show is art.
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SpaceAceJase posted:In season one, everyone was so fixated on the expected Mr Robot reveal that they didn't see the Darlene sibling twist. And yes, I agree with the statement that even if you know the twists, they're still revealed so damned well that they're super entertaining anyway. That's the sign of an actually-good twist. Bad twists are ones that actually don't make sense (Darlene-sister did make sense when you go back and watch pre-that-episode) or just aren't entertaining when they come to fruition, whether you guess them or not.
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I loved the negotiation between Price and Jung out in the rain. Really hits home how much Price is exactly where he belongs at the top of E Corp. I loved his monologue capped off with a burn about being out of time. I'm still not convinced that Tyrell is dead. If Stage 2 is Mr. Robot's plan (not Elliot's, this is a key distinction) and Mr. Robot was in control when Tyrell was "killed" then Elliot is still in the dark. Of course Mr. Robot told Elliot that Tyrell was dead when the two came to terms in the basement of the jail, but that was only to get Elliot to lay off about it. Then there's the phone call in jail where Elliot snaps back at the very end to hear Tyrell's "Bonsoir, Elliot" after Mr. Robot hands him the phone. Tyrell is out doing something for Mr. Robot, but the question is what? It makes me think that Elliot, Darlene, and Angela are all important to Whiterose for one reason or another when everything seems to come back to the Washington Township plant. I wonder how much Elliot knows about it and how it ties into his plan, because it must be in there somehow, either to raze E Corp to the ground or something worse. And I like how if hacking were kung fu then Elliot is the master. Don't gently caress with him when it comes to computers, but also don't ask him to do literally anything else because hacking is all he's good at.
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Shoren posted:And I like how if hacking were kung fu then Elliot is the master. Don't gently caress with him when it comes to computers, but also don't ask him to do literally anything else because hacking is all he's good at. I really enjoyed whiterose's reaction to hearing her minion spoke to Elliot "Give me your phone immediately, it's bugged" *click*
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My thinking is that Mr. Robot is faking this whole inter-self recognition and mutual understanding with his other personality because now that Elliott knows the truth about him Mr. Robot needs a different method of keeping Elliott out of the loop so he's trying to lull him into complacency. Also Trenton/Colby/Darlene all saw Dom. We know this because Dom already knocked on Angela's door earlier in the episode so she is an experienced door-knocker and she was able to be in 3 places at once because Trenton, Colby and Darlene are all really the same person, WWE Superstar John Cena.
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Sep 3, 2016 06:40
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I'm sorry I completely somehow missed it but what is stage 2?
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precision posted:Nobody saw the Darlene twist coming because it makes no goddamn sense. It's a complete out-of-the-rear end pull for the show to go "oh yeah, so actually Elliott doesn't realize huge chunks of reality, bee tee dubs" - and a testament to the show's writing that they still made it work. You should rewatch season 1 if you feel that way. Darlene's character makes no sense without that context. It was rubbing me wrong the first time but I figured it was TV and she was supposed to be whimsical. Nope. Everything that seemed like a mistake was deliberate. Blind Rasputin posted:I'm sorry I completely somehow missed it but what is stage 2? It's Elliot's (or Mr. Robot's) plan, as yet unrevealed. Rarity posted:My thinking is that Mr. Robot is faking this whole inter-self recognition and mutual understanding with his other personality because now that Elliott knows the truth about him Mr. Robot needs a different method of keeping Elliott out of the loop so he's trying to lull him into complacency. I thought about this too but I think it would be unsatisfying given so much of the season was devoted to moving their relationship forward. Something is definitely coming though.
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It's very weird for me that the best spoken Chinese in the show is done by the dark army minion. B d Wong is pretty bad
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Blind Rasputin posted:I'm sorry I completely somehow missed it but what is stage 2? It's your plan, you should know 
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DaveKap posted:Yeah I wrote about this stuff a few weeks ago in here. The parallel of Mr-Robot-dad-imaginary/elliot's-in-jail means we still need a darlene-is-sister twist for this season that nobody sees coming. I don't really feel like "stage 2 was his idea" is enough of one though I could see next episode making it so if it explains it well enough. See I figured the twist we didn't see coming was Leon being Dark Army. Surprised the poo poo out of me, and it was in the same episode as the prison reveal, much like season 1's format.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:It's very weird for me that the best spoken Chinese in the show is done by the dark army minion. B d Wong is pretty bad
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Fight Club is a good movie
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Zzulu posted:Fight Club is a good movie
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Ersatz posted:Yeah. My Mandarin is pretty crap, but my wife's from Beijing so I have good handle on what it should sound like and... that's not it. I really like the actor otherwise. I think B.D. Wong doesn't speak Mandarin because the couple of times they had his character speak it in Law and Order SVU, it was another actor ADR'd in. My friend said it sounds like he learned it phonetically.
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sticklefifer posted:See I figured the twist we didn't see coming was Leon being Dark Army. Surprised the poo poo out of me, and it was in the same episode as the prison reveal, much like season 1's format. BTW I am now reminded of what this season is missing. A proper long take. We got the amazing one from season 1 to top and this season has had a couple of them but they weren't even close to season 1's in quality and length so I'm thinking we still have something in store, yes?
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I am pretty sure Elliot has the same condition as the guy in Memento, that is why he doesn't remember his sister or the fact he planned phase 2.
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Dr. Josef Mengele posted:I am pretty sure Elliot has the same condition as the guy in Memento, that is why he doesn't remember his sister or the fact he planned phase 2. He may have similar symptoms but that doesn't mean he has the same disease. I mean they're both drastically different symptoms anyway.
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He aint got no disease, he's just a super genius
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That whole bit about moses also hearing voices and that, and it making sense to him, leads me to believe he's going to develop bad schizophrenia. My mate's dad had that happen to him, ended up thinking he was God.
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a dog from hell posted:You should rewatch season 1 if you feel that way. Season 1 Darlene character works well both ways, I think, and that's the beauty of it First time she seems like this crazy, extroverted girl, taking liberties and forcing intimacy with super-nerd Elliot, seemingly because she had a romantic interest in him. I honestly expected that they would have an affair eventually (and Elliot obviously had the same idea) And then, it wanst any of that. Her character takes 180º turn and everything still fits, but diffrently. Her character makes sense when you know it and when you dont, is just the sense is completely different in each case Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Sep 3, 2016 |
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Sep 3, 2016 15:17
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Cisco totally walked in on Trenton and Mobley loving on the floor the other side of the couch
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MorphineMike posted:Cisco totally walked in on Trenton and Mobley loving on the floor the other side of the couch I'd like a nice surprise like that for once. The show has great nasty surprises but the odd nice one would be great.
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I thought it was weird that they glossed over the fact that Darlene didn't trust Cisco at the end of last week's episode, so much so, that she demolished his computer and supposedly took a bat to his head, yet in this episode he doesn't have any wounds and she seems to be relatively ok with him now. I know sometimes they skip ahead and then go back to show you what they skipped over, but it just seemed really jarring to me in this instance.
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