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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Aesop Poprock posted:

Yeeeeah, but men had the final say over anything the women would nominate, just like every other culture. Its an interesting abberation but it was more the women being modern secretaries cause the men didnt want to deal with it. There's never been a purely matriarchal culture that we know of.

http://www.debunker.com/texts/iroquois.html

That and everything about the Iroquois Constitution only applied if you were part of the in group; otherwise they'd murder you and rape your women just like any other society.

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Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

He's written two of these, and they are both national treasures. I don't think there's anything else I've read about the Trump campaign that is as bizarrely perfect as Keilor's articles.

quote:

Labor Day and it is not going well. You had a very bad month. You tossed out those wisecracks on Twitter and the Earth shook and your ratings among white suburban women with French cookware declined. The teleprompter is not your friend. You are in the old tradition of locker room ranting and big honkers in the steam room, sitting naked, talking man talk, griping about the goons and ginks and lousy workmanship and the uppity broads and the great lays and how you vanquished your enemies at the bank. Profanity is your natural language and vulgar words so as not to offend the Christers but the fans can still hear it and that's something they love about you. You are their guy. You are losing and so are they but they love you for it.

Meanwhile, you keep plugging away. It's the hardest work you've ever done. You walk out in the white cap and you rant for an hour about stuff that means nothing and the fans scream and wave their signs and you wish you could level with them for once and say one true thing: I love you to death and when this is over I will have nothing that I want.

Play fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Sep 4, 2016

Idran
Jan 13, 2005
Grimey Drawer

computer parts posted:

That and everything about the Iroquois Constitution only applied if you were part of the in group; otherwise they'd murder you and rape your women just like any other society.

They were specifically talking about who were the decision makers in the Iroquois Confederation, though. (I mean, that's true, it's just a non sequitur with what they were talking about.)

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
https://twitter.com/tresdessert/status/771939103982161922

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003


Did someone find the painting of his true self in an attic sometime in the last month? He looks like absolute hell

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer
Are you guys open-minded enough to accept that Milo died and this person in the image is a body-double? He's not even doing a good job.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

It looks like he got beaten by the embodiment of his own self loathing.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012





Finally, 'I demand to see your manager!' Now, for men.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Man if that isn't the I only gently caress black dudes haircut.

"My son is the only king I need"

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

is this how he tries to look "respectable"

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

stinkles1112 posted:

The funniest part of his screed is that I've seen some very compelling cases made by progressives irt porn being truly awful and I kind of agree but once again Walsh can't even be correct correctly

I mean yeah, there's absolutely a point to be made that porn influences society's views on and understanding of sex, and that the current mainstream porn fashion does so in ways that can be lovely for many people. But going on about moral decay and trying to outlaw the whole thing entirely will do gently caress all to change anything about that. Not to mention that Walsh's motivation in this doesn't have anything to do with the desire to improve anybody's life but his own.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Perestroika posted:

I mean yeah, there's absolutely a point to be made that porn influences society's views on and understanding of sex, and that the current mainstream porn fashion does so in ways that can be lovely for many people. But going on about moral decay and trying to outlaw the whole thing entirely will do gently caress all to change anything about that. Not to mention that Walsh's motivation in this doesn't have anything to do with the desire to improve anybody's life but his own.

And I thought they were just getting at the lovely way it treats the actual people who're in the videos. Kinda like modeling does. Or something along those lines.

Capfalcon
Apr 6, 2012

No Boots on the Ground,
Puny Mortals!

Keeshhound posted:

I heard the whole thing in his Lake Wobegon voice as I was reading it which made it all feel wrong. It's like imagining Mr. Rodgers getting angry. :ohdear:

It's "I'm not mad, just disappointed" stretched out over a few wonderfully blistering pages.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Idran posted:

They were specifically talking about who were the decision makers in the Iroquois Confederation, though. (I mean, that's true, it's just a non sequitur with what they were talking about.)

Oh my bad, usually this topic is about how great and enlightened the Iroquois were because of their Constitution when in reality it was somewhere around the USSR's constitution in terms of universal applicability.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

Did someone find the painting of his true self in an attic sometime in the last month? He looks like absolute hell

I can only imagine how ghastly he's going to look in late November after Trump loses the election. Man, gently caress Trump and Clinton, let's see Milo's health records and a letter from his doctor because the man is falling apart fast.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

So now that the right wing media is praising that Mother Teresa is a saint, I came across this article talking about how despicable she was.

quote:

Over hundreds of hours of research, much of it cataloged in a book he published in 2003, Dr. Chatterjee said he found a “cult of suffering” in homes run by Mother Teresa’s organization, the Missionaries of Charity, with children tied to beds and little to comfort dying patients but aspirin.

He and others said that Mother Teresa took her adherence to frugality and simplicity in her work to extremes, allowing practices like the reuse of hypodermic needles and tolerating primitive facilities that required patients to defecate in front of one another.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/world/asia/mother-teresa-critic.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

quote:

Mother Teresa said she told one cancer patient that pain means Jesus is near to you and that suffering is “an opportunity to share in the passion of Christ.” She said she compared suffering to kisses from Jesus. She said the person replied, “Please tell Jesus to stop kissing me.”

quote:

"I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people," and "the most beautiful gift for a person that he can participate in the sufferings of Christ,"

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So now that the right wing media is praising that Mother Teresa is a saint, I came across this article talking about how despicable she was.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/world/asia/mother-teresa-critic.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

This has been out there for a long while, but people get really, really angry when it's brought up.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Pope Guilty posted:

This has been out there for a long while, but people get really, really angry when it's brought up.

I love that so much of it boils down to 'she told people who will never afford medicine to handle their pain a bunch of platitudes to try to make their constant pain seem like literally anything other than the worst thing ever, THE BITCH'

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
My old roommate started talking sugar about Mother Theresa one day and how much of a good person she was. He offered a "oh, I guess I'll have to check into it" after giving him the truncated version of Christopher Hitchen's tirade.

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I love that so much of it boils down to 'she told people who will never afford medicine to handle their pain a bunch of platitudes to try to make their constant pain seem like literally anything other than the worst thing ever, THE BITCH'

Considering the money her Missionaries of Charity brought in, and the "cult of suffering" previously mentioned? Yeah, gently caress her.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I love that so much of it boils down to 'she told people who will never afford medicine to handle their pain a bunch of platitudes to try to make their constant pain seem like literally anything other than the worst thing ever, THE BITCH'

Her organization had the funds to provide pain-killers, sometimes actually had the drugs as well, and actively chose not to administer them. This coupled with the fact that when she herself got sick she didn't follow her own supposed beliefs and instead chose to get the best care possible instead of "sharing in the passion of Christ" shows her to be a massive hypocrite.

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

I love that so much of it boils down to 'she told people who will never afford medicine to handle their pain a bunch of platitudes to try to make their constant pain seem like literally anything other than the worst thing ever, THE BITCH'

She had more than enough money to give them painkillers and ease their suffering, or provide healthcare, but instead told them how beautiful their agony was. While she did this, she raised millions of dollars for the church by pretending she was doing humanitarian work, including money stolen by Charles Keating which she refused to return, and bought expensive medical care for herself. She was a hypocritical monster and the world is better for her absence.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

nine-gear crow posted:

I can only imagine how ghastly he's going to look in late November after Trump loses the election. Man, gently caress Trump and Clinton, let's see Milo's health records and a letter from his doctor because the man is falling apart fast.

Cocaine'll have you believing your own bullshit.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

is this how he tries to look "respectable"

Pretty sure "respectable" and "Milo" have never been in the same sentence before. His whole brand is built off of being the opposite of respectable.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Sir Tonk posted:

Pretty sure "respectable" and "Milo" have never been in the same sentence before. His whole brand is built off of being the opposite of respectable.

perhaps i should have said "presentable" for national TV, instead of a freak show for fascist teenagers and college republicans

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/772464371196911616
I think once this election is all said and done, the democrats and Beck are going to look at each other, nod, and resume the traditional formalities of hating each other.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Glenn Beck is only barely a voice of reason. He still buys into all the dumb bullshit Hillary conspiracies, he still thinks liberals are evil greedy baby-killers, he just thinks Trump is as bad or worse than Clinton.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/772464371196911616
I think once this election is all said and done, the democrats and Beck are going to look at each other, nod, and resume the traditional formalities of hating each other.

He's on record saying he would've voted for Hillary in 2008, had she won the nomination.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
"Wow, look at Glenn Beck being the voice of reason! Never saw this coming!" pops up about once every six months. He inevitably drops back into chalkboard conspiracy theories and Galt's Gulch prophecies before the week is out every single time.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Twelve by Pies posted:

Glenn Beck is only barely a voice of reason. He still buys into all the dumb bullshit Hillary conspiracies, he still thinks liberals are evil greedy baby-killers, he just thinks Trump is as bad or worse than Clinton.

That's what people here are saying. He's right. About that last part anyway. It took an election this bad and terrible to raise someone like Glenn Beck all the way up to "barely reasonable".

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Twelve by Pies posted:

Glenn Beck is only barely a voice of reason. He still buys into all the dumb bullshit Hillary conspiracies, he still thinks liberals are evil greedy baby-killers, he just thinks Trump is as bad or worse than Clinton.

Glenn Beck believes himself to be some sort of God-chosen freedom fighter destined to help usher in a new era of American conservative prosperity. Now that he's been thrown off of Fox and is barely relevant to like...anything he doesn't need to worry about following the party line. He sees himself as an underdog maverick unjustly pulled off stage.

When really he's just a person who willingly went bug gently caress crazy, took a flying leap off of the cliff to crazy land, and occasionally gets lucky and sounds like a reasonable person. I think in the case of Trump he sees how absolutely destructive he is and isn't afraid to go against the party on it.

I used to laugh at Glenn Beck but these days I find it hard; it feels like kicking a puppy.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Yeah but the problem is he hasn't had any sort of epiphany or anything and doesn't seem to realize that conservative policies are directly responsible for the rise of Trump. This is why he isn't reasonable; he thinks Trump is a betrayal of conservatives when he's actually the logical progression of them.

Periodiko
Jan 30, 2005
Uh.

Mister Macys posted:

He's on record saying he would've voted for Hillary in 2008, had she won the nomination.

He's also a liar and a charlatan, who had a mental breakdown on-air when Obama won re-election that took an electoral map of the US and between tears portrayed the small blue parts of the country as a virus intruding on the massive swathes of red. He's a lot like Trump, he just wants to be treated as smart and important, he can seem reasonable one day and a total monster the next. Also he was a loving Cruz supporter, the only guy in contention of being worse than Trump.

It's a mistake to treat Beck like he "believes" anything, he's a man who cries on camera for a living. He's closer to being a televangelist than a political commentator. He just wants to be on real TV again.

edit: poo poo! he even had a fake university to scam money from followers like Trump. Beck University. Dude is just jealous.

Periodiko fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Sep 4, 2016

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Periodiko posted:

It's a mistake to treat Beck like he "believes" anything, he's a man who cries on camera for a living. He's closer to being a televangelist than a political commentator. He just wants to be on real TV again.

Bingo. When it comes to Glenn Beck, there's no there there. The man is an ideological mercenary, ready to say and do whatever it takes to get the biggest paycheck and the most amount of attention out of it.

I've plugged it before, and while it's past its sell-by date due to Beck obliterating himself into cultural obscurity in recent years, Common Nonsense by Alexander Zaitchik is none the less a fascinating read that shows off just what an utterly hollow human being Beck is.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Reminder, the guy was a 90s morning zoo radio jock with clips making fun of a woman for a miscarriage.

Also his "only sane grown up left" gimmick was a thing even when he was on Fox News/during Obama's 1st term.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

nine-gear crow posted:

The man is an ideological mercenary...

I'm gonna steal this term. Very nice use of language, Nine-gear Crow. Wish I'd though of it.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

PhazonLink posted:

Reminder, the guy was a 90s morning zoo radio jock with clips making fun of a woman for a miscarriage.

Also his "only sane grown up left" gimmick was a thing even when he was on Fox News/during Obama's 1st term.

He converted to mormonism as an adult so that he could have sex with a mormon. I don't know if he had sex before that but I imagine sex with a mormon is terrible.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000
it really depends on the mormon

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)

Kilroy posted:

it really depends on the mormon

If it's a legitimate conversion they have ways of shutting it down?

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Bast Relief
Feb 21, 2006

by exmarx
Like, all of my guy friends have a story of having their hearts broken by a Mormon girl because they wouldn't convert. Apparently these chicks were trying to score souls by doing really raunchy wild sex things. That's just what I've heard, they're like trained to make their husbands happy or some bullshit. I doubt it's true.

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