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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Red Brown coalition make it happen Germany

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az
Dec 2, 2005

Beefsteak populists?

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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Besteht rechnerisch die Möglichkeit, dass es weder eine große Koalition noch Rot-Rot-Grün ("SED 2.0") eine absolute Mehrheit erhält?

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Mithaldu posted:

I don't know about the western part of that, i've rarely been there.

News also confirmed it, the AfD voters are mainly 30-40 with Hauptschulabschluss. The same thing is also clearly visible in my parent's acquaintances: They have a garden neighbor who married a woman with bulgarian citizenship, and regularly has her bulgarian father in his garden who barely speaks german, but has been here for 30 years and is an awesome dude. Yet despite his loving family being half ausländers he is afraid of the ausländers and the bombs and voted AfD.

I don't think you understand that he is voting against a certain kind of foreigner from outside Europe who speaks funny and is in the news all the time.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
I don't think you understand that he isn't actually making that distinction. According to him his wife's father is german. Doesn't speak it, but really is. Been here long enough, isn't he?

People on his level of smarts are not capable of making the kind of distinction your hosed-up brain rationalizes together so you can sleep at night.

He also didn't grok that the Stralsunder Stiefelträger won't stop to ask if his wife's father has been in germany for 30 years when they hear him talk bulgarian.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Randler posted:

Besteht rechnerisch die Möglichkeit, dass es weder eine große Koalition noch Rot-Rot-Grün ("SED 2.0") eine absolute Mehrheit erhält?

nach aktuellen hochrechnungen, ja. weder SPD-CDU noch rot-rot-grün haben mehr als 50% der stimmen. dementsprechend sieht momentan eine schwarz-rot-grüne koalition am wahrscheinlichsten aus. :\

Babies Getting Rabies
Apr 21, 2007

Sugartime Jones

botany posted:

nach aktuellen hochrechnungen, ja. weder SPD-CDU noch rot-rot-grün haben mehr als 50% der stimmen. dementsprechend sieht momentan eine schwarz-rot-grüne koalition am wahrscheinlichsten aus. :\

Die Stimmen bilden die Sitzverteilung nicht Eins zu Eins ab. Die große Koalition wird bestehen bleiben, laut momentanen Hochrechnungen hat sie 6 Sitze mehr als sie braucht. Wenn die Grünen doch noch über die Fünfprozenthürde kommen, könnten es weniger sein, aber meines Wissens gefährdet das die große Koalition auch nicht.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Ghost Farts posted:

Die Stimmen bilden die Sitzverteilung nicht Eins zu Eins ab. Die große Koalition wird bestehen bleiben, laut momentanen Hochrechnungen hat sie 6 Sitze mehr als sie braucht. Wenn die Grünen doch noch über die Fünfprozenthürde kommen, könnten es weniger sein, aber meines Wissens gefährdet das die große Koalition auch nicht.

ah okay, dann bist du da besser informiert als ich!

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Wo findest du diese Hochrechnung? Ich sehe Grüne 4,9% und lockere Mehrheit für Rot-Schwarz, v.a. wenn man berücksichtigt dass die 15% Sitze für rausgeflogene Parteien auf die anderen verteilt werden.

Stand 21:42 Uhr: http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/mecklenburg-vorpommern/landtagswahl_mv_2016/Wahl-MV-SPD-deutlich-vorn-AfD-vor-CDU,wahlmv312.html

e:

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx
Greens no seats?

Couldn't happen to a nice bunch of people.

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.

Randler posted:

Rot-Rot-Grün ("SED 2.0")

are you actually being serious and not just flippant when you type this ?

aren't you supposed to be a smart guy ?

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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skipThings posted:

are you actually being serious and not just flippant when you type this ?

aren't you supposed to be a smart guy ?

Zwei von drei Parteien in einer rot-rot-grünen Koalition waren funktionell Teil der Sozialistischen Einheitspartei der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik. Und die SPD hat niemals eine nachdrückliche Reinigung von ehemaligen Kadern vorgenommen. :colbert:

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
FDP, CDU und CSU wurden auch nie von nazis gereinigt, aber ich seh deinen arsch nicht protestieren :colbert:

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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botany posted:

FDP, CDU und CSU wurden auch nie von nazis gereinigt, aber ich seh deinen arsch nicht protestieren :colbert:

Die Altnazifrage ist biologisch gelöst. Die SED-Schweine sind noch eine Weile im Funktionärsalter. :colbert:

az
Dec 2, 2005

Randler posted:

Zwei von drei Parteien in einer rot-rot-grünen Koalition waren funktionell Teil der Sozialistischen Einheitspartei der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik. Und die SPD hat niemals eine nachdrückliche Reinigung von ehemaligen Kadern vorgenommen. :colbert:

That's what we need in modern politics, ideological cleansings.

edit: Unironically, we should cleanse all the nazis in local garbage incinerators.


botany posted:

FDP, CDU und CSU wurden auch nie von nazis gereinigt, aber ich seh deinen arsch nicht protestieren :colbert:

It's even more amusing considering the SPD was forcefully merged into the SED.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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az posted:

That's what we need in modern politics, ideological cleansings.

Parteien können darüber entscheiden, wer in ihnen Mitglied ist. Wenn die SPD neben Sarrazin auch noch die Resterampe des Führungspersonals der Deutschen Demokratischen Diktatur sein will, dann ist das eine bewusste Entscheidung der Genossen.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

az posted:

Beefsteak populists?

ban veganism now

az
Dec 2, 2005

Kurtofan posted:

ban veganism now

No, it makes hanging out with my vegan buddy much better since he won't eat any of the snacks, you know, because they always have something wrong with them. One time I made vegetable snacks but he wouldn't eat any of it because they touched the cutting board that I used to dice some cheese before. It's a fun little game that I can play, offer him random food items and guess if he will reject them or not (he always rejects them and grabbing food out on the town is impossible).

Also what food is red on the outside and brown on the inside, I need an updated vernacular for AfD voting commies.

az
Dec 2, 2005

Randler posted:

Parteien können darüber entscheiden, wer in ihnen Mitglied ist. Wenn die SPD neben Sarrazin auch noch die Resterampe des Führungspersonals der Deutschen Demokratischen Diktatur sein will, dann ist das eine bewusste Entscheidung der Genossen.

The SPD disagrees with you considering they rejected most former SED members in the new states and haven't been doing particularly hot there because of it.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Randler posted:

Parteien können darüber entscheiden, wer in ihnen Mitglied ist. Wenn die SPD neben Sarrazin auch noch die Resterampe des Führungspersonals der Deutschen Demokratischen Diktatur sein will, dann ist das eine bewusste Entscheidung der Genossen.

ja, wenn es etwas gibt, das man der SPD vorwerfen kann, dann sicherlich dass sie zu linkspopulistisch sind. anders gesagt, mein gott müssen diese ganzen hartgesottenen stalinisten in der SPD inkompetent sein um so wenig einfluss auf irgendwas zu haben.

bronin
Oct 15, 2009

use it or throw it away
SPD und links. Witz des Jahrhunderts

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

botany posted:

ja, wenn es etwas gibt, das man der SPD vorwerfen kann, dann sicherlich dass sie zu linkspopulistisch sind. anders gesagt, mein gott müssen diese ganzen hartgesottenen stalinisten in der SPD inkompetent sein um so wenig einfluss auf irgendwas zu haben.

Wenn sie kompetent wären, wären sie nicht links. :smuggo:

Und ansonsten ist das Argument dämlich. Die CDU hat auch nicht Pläne für den Dritten Weltkrieg vorbereitet, war aber trotzdem von Altnazis durchsetzt. Das Pack aus den Diktaturen ist mit Masse opportunistisch eingestellt, aber das ändert nichts daran, dass es Pack ist und man die nicht mit offenen Armen empfangen sollte.

bronin posted:

SPD und links. Witz des Jahrhunderts

Links, vielleicht nicht. Link, andererseits...

skipThings
May 21, 2007

Tell me more about this
"Wireless fun-adaptor" you were speaking of.

az posted:

No, it makes hanging out with my vegan buddy much better since he won't eat any of the snacks, you know, because they always have something wrong with them. One time I made vegetable snacks but he wouldn't eat any of it because they touched the cutting board that I used to dice some cheese before. It's a fun little game that I can play, offer him random food items and guess if he will reject them or not (he always rejects them and grabbing food out on the town is impossible).

Also what food is red on the outside and brown on the inside, I need an updated vernacular for AfD voting commies.

you are all just making this poo poo up, aren't you? This would make some orthodox followers of Abrahamist faith's blush

Einbauschrank
Nov 5, 2009

botany posted:

FDP, CDU und CSU wurden auch nie von nazis gereinigt, aber ich seh deinen arsch nicht protestieren :colbert:

Waren auch Nazis in der SED und der SPD. Davon abgesehen macht es einen kleinen Unterschied, ob man nach dem Zusammenbruch einer Diktatur in eine anständige Partei eintritt oder ohne Not in einer Verbrecherpartei verbleibt. Die Nasen, die von der NSDAP in die SRP gewechselt sind, haben sicherlich nichts aus der Geschichte gelernt. Ebensowenig die 5%, die nach der Wende in der SED verblieben sind, um das Jahrhundertverbrechen Sozialismus noch einmal zu wagen.

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

az posted:

Also what food is red on the outside and brown on the inside, I need an updated vernacular for AfD voting commies.

A can of coke

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Linke actually lost the most votes of all parties in the latest Hochrechnung. Guess over the next couple elections we're gonna find out just how many Gutmenschen Linke voters there actually are and how many votes were from disgruntled smallminded Ossi authoritarians that were fine with the wall because they never got the idea to go anywhere anyway. Because those are going to jump ship to AfD.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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wayfinder posted:

A can of coke

Amimarke für Amiwerte.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

Einbauschrank posted:

das Jahrhundertverbrechen Sozialismus

lmao

az
Dec 2, 2005

^^pre emptive "the nazis were socialists" :ironicat: strike

skipThings posted:

you are all just making this poo poo up, aren't you? This would make some orthodox followers of Abrahamist faith's blush

I wish. We used to be best friends growing up together and lost sight of each other when I joined the military and he went to Berlin for university. Over the years we kept reconnecting every now and then and one night in the Burger King on the Reeperbahn he told me he was a vegetarian now and wouldn't eat burgers anymore because meat made him nauseous. Alright I said, cool no problem, have some fries and that was it. But it wasn't. Time passed and we would meet two or three times a year, every time his dietary requirements had shifted further and further. I remember distinctly when he refused gummy bears because they had gelatin in them, next up he refused to eat my moms great spaghetti with tomato sauce that I had specifically asked her to do because I thought it would be a good fit, but no, you see there was butter in the dish and that didn't work out anymore. Bland Rösti with mashed potatoes? Nope you put milk in it, milk is bad now. Late night out on the town in a fast food shop. Have some fries? Nah the oil they're made in has traces of animal products in it. Fish burger? Hell no. Everything that even got within smelling distance of animal products, oils, eggs, fish, milk, down to the micro level of hormones or bonemeal was out eventually leading up to the cheese contaminated chopping board. Now I just serve him tap water in a mug because beer has also been declared unacceptable, and I don't ask questions anymore.

Last time we met he told me about a nice night he had making homemade pizza with his WG buddies and iirc the final product they ate sounded like a Dinkel brick with light tomato sauce on it, hold the oil. It seems absolutely miserable to live like that but vOv The weirdest thing is that he isn't even a traditional Öko or hippie and you would never be able to tell from looking at him that he subsists of what I assume is weeds and sunlight now.

az fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Sep 4, 2016

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
so your friend is a vegan then. wow. crazy story bro

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
gonna have to sit down after that rollercoaster of suspense actually. whew

Babies Getting Rabies
Apr 21, 2007

Sugartime Jones
The vegans I know drink beer, and plenty of it, and their food is also super fatty, so I have no idea where his issue with oil comes from, either. He sounds like a special kind of crazy vegan.

az
Dec 2, 2005

botany posted:

so your friend is a vegan then. wow. crazy story bro

I'm sorry I'm not particularly well versed in veganism and the gradual shift from no meat to nothing remotely animal confused and surprised me?

Especially since he never told me beforehand and kept letting me run aground in social situations where I would get food for us and he would look at it and reject it on the spot with no information, and I don't think regular vegans exclude one subset of animal products at a time in a years long process.

botany posted:

gonna have to sit down after that rollercoaster of suspense actually. whew

now you're just hurting my feelings

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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Ich möchte Dich nicht erschrecken, aber Veganertum ist erst der Anfang. Es gibt noch so viel extremeres danach. :kheldragar:

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

az posted:

I'm sorry I'm not particularly well versed in veganism and the gradual shift from no meat to nothing remotely animal confused and surprised me?

Especially since he never told me beforehand and kept letting me run aground in social situations where I would get food for us and he would look at it and reject it on the spot with no information, and I don't think regular vegans exclude one subset of animal products at a time in a years long process.


now you're just hurting my feelings

relax, i was just teasing :glomp: if he really never gave you a heads-up that's just inconsiderate. i'm just touchy because i dated a super chill vegan for two years who didn't mind that i eat meat and never criticized people for their food choices, but got so much unwarranted poo poo for her food choices that i get kind of preemptively angry every time people make fun of vegans.

az
Dec 2, 2005

I'm not judging vegans at all, I just found the process odd and I don't think I could live like that, and I lived mostly on salads during large parts of soldiering because BW food is sometimes more usable as improvised weaponry than nourishment.

Randler posted:

Ich möchte Dich nicht erschrecken, aber Veganertum ist erst der Anfang. Es gibt noch so viel extremeres danach. :kheldragar:

Na erzaehl, ich bin all ears.

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax
freegans sind die wirklich krassen. and i say that as a fan of a band who's lead singer lived the freegan lifestyle for a good while.

az
Dec 2, 2005

Let me guess without bothering to google... Only freerange food sounds too reasonable. Only food found freely in the bushes?

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

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az posted:

Na erzaehl, ich bin all ears.

We have such sights to show you.

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botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

az posted:

Let me guess without bothering to google... Only freerange food sounds too reasonable. Only food found freely in the bushes?

lemme drop some knowledge on you

quote:

Freeganism is a practice and ideology of limited participation in the conventional economy and minimal consumption of resources, particularly through recovering wasted goods like food.[1] The word "freegan" is a coinage derived from "free" and "vegan".[2] While vegans might avoid buying animal products as an act of protest against animal exploitation, freegans—at least in theory—avoid buying anything as an act of protest against the food system in general.

Freeganism is often presented as synonymous with "dumpster diving" for discarded food, although freegans are distinguished by their association with an anti-consumerist and anti-capitalist ideology and their engagement in a wider range of alternative living strategies, such as voluntary unemployment, squatting abandoned buildings, and "guerilla gardening" in unoccupied city parks.[3]


that on the other hand is "amazing atheist" level crap

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