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I'm on emergency leave and just re-watched Hot Rod for like the 6th or 7th time. gently caress you, I grieve in my own way.
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MurderBot posted:more smoke & mirrors than it is reality. I would go for "A Bowl of Bullshit Soup" personally but really, whichever phrase you use, what part of the Army isn't?
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Sep 4, 2016 06:34
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One way to avoid having to drive 200 miles to get promoted in the guard is to have multiple MOS's. "Oh, that E-6 slot for commo is pretty far away. Got any E-6 supply slots? Etc, etc." I've got a buddy who has 5 MOS's. 5. Sheesh.
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Sep 4, 2016 13:20
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mlmp08 posted:I'm on emergency leave and just re-watched Hot Rod for like the 6th or 7th time. I just punch dance my grief away in a wooded glen atop a mountain
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Sep 4, 2016 13:27
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I had two, 72E/74C Tactical Telecoms, 45B Small Arms Repair, and was working on a 3rd for basic supply grunt to try and pick up pldc and my E-5. gently caress med units if you aren't a lab rat, medical, etc.
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Sep 4, 2016 13:27
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McNally posted:No poo poo, this is how the worst people get promoted. A normal human being isn't willing to drive all the way across the state to pick up E5, whereas the type of guy you don't want in charge of you is. Not an emptyquote
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Sep 4, 2016 16:37
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I like how you put "max your pt test" ahead of knowing your job when you were describing an all start soldier.
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Sep 4, 2016 17:11
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TBeats posted:I like how you put "max your pt test" ahead of knowing your job when you were describing an all start soldier. I think he was going off of Big Army's stated order of preference.
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Sep 4, 2016 17:13
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psydude posted:I think he was going off of Big Army's stated order of preference. Yeah, basically. lol if you think being competent is more important than your PT score.
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Sep 4, 2016 17:44
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Why is it that no officer is capable of having the correct time. "Take this time to think of any questions. In 25 seconds, the time will be [Thirteen minutes behind everyone else's time]" They have time linked mobiles, even my obsolete R101 does that. They're doing to gently caress with us, aren't they? 
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Sep 4, 2016 23:32
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psydude posted:I think he was going off of Big Army's stated order of preference. This. My parting words to my unit were "I am great at what I do, I'm just a lovely soldier." because it's true. I was on profile, no PT test in 4 years thanks to injuries, but could rock the gently caress out of whatever crap I had to do in no time flat. I was hand selected by Australian military to brief their Public Affairs General about a tentative plan for digital media and equipment to buy, and most of all, how to gauge success because big boss men like being able to understand analytics and seeing things like "we are successful because of X" crap. I worked 7AM till 10PM most nights pushing quality video work daily, but got yelled at by my 1SG for not doing PT (injured) eating snacks at night (No DFAC because I was working against a timeline) and not showering despite showering at least once a day because lugging camera equipment will make you sweat. I did a lot for that exercise but was looked at as a shitbag because I couldn't soldier. Can't run but you can shoot the hair off a tick's rear end stuck on a bloodhound chasing after a rabbit? Too bad, you must run a two mile in under this time. We understand that all of our methods and rules are archaic but gently caress you! I have a big problem with military promotions. The Australians make you go back to square 1 and become a digger if you switch MOS. no more hitting E4P or E5P and switching MOS because now we have a lovely leader who doesn't know his loving job either.
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Sep 4, 2016 23:33
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Soulex posted:This. It sounds like your unit just didn't like you.
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Sep 4, 2016 23:50
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They didn't. Jokes on them, I'm loving almost 100% free. Enjoy Motor Pool Mondays. Enjoy your unit with too many officers with too many fingers in pies. Enjoy the weekends working and the volatile office environment you created. Enjoy your created social environment which resembles arson and vandalism. Enjoy your need to ruin other peoples smiles and good days because I have mine. gently caress you.
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Sep 4, 2016 23:54
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Soulex posted:This. war is hell
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Sep 5, 2016 01:07
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:war is hell only because the army is involved
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Icon Of Sin posted:only because the army is involved QFT
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:war is hell peace is a motherfucker
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spacetoaster posted:One way to avoid having to drive 200 miles to get promoted in the guard is to have multiple MOS's. I'm going to attempt to get two secondary MOS. 38G6E and 38G6H the catch is that there is not schoolhouse and you just go before a board based on civilian experience.
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Sep 5, 2016 03:47
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Soulex posted:The Australians make you go back to square 1 and become a digger if you switch MOS. no more hitting E4P or E5P and switching MOS because now we have a lovely leader who doesn't know his loving job either. Yes, because all senior managers need to know how to be a digger. 
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Sep 5, 2016 04:48
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There is absolutely not a single enlisted rank that is equivalent to being a 'senior manager'.
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Sep 5, 2016 13:16
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Senior babysitter is real though.
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Sep 5, 2016 15:55
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Discharged from the IRR today, suuuuuck my dick Army.
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Grognan posted:Discharged from the IRR today, suuuuuck my dick Army. Feels good, don't it?
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Sep 5, 2016 19:34
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spacetoaster posted:Yes, because all senior managers need to know how to be a digger. Digger = private I'm not talking about nobles. Y'all are obviously exempt by being superior human genetics.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:17
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Noble leadership is different. Lol at calling an NCO a senior manager. An NCO that doesn't know how to do the work is worthless. What are they outside of SMEs of their MOS? Senior Managers of Cut Grass and Policed Parking Lots and Haircuts and Standing At Ease When You're Talking to Me? Wouldn't even qualify as middle management until you get to PL/1SG territory. And in comparison to a traditional corporate hierarchy they're more like the dudes who made it off the assembly line and aren't Union anymore.
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By working the Guard promotion system (ie doing bullshit like changing units to one 150 miles away and poo poo like that) who went from E4 to E7 in like three years. He also talked his way into being assigned to a unit on the other side of PA but drilling with a local unit.
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Sep 6, 2016 02:44
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bulletsponge13 posted:By working the Guard promotion system (ie doing bullshit like changing units to one 150 miles away and poo poo like that) who went from E4 to E7 in like three years. there are weasels in the guard who can do this it's pretty incredible to see tbh
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Sep 6, 2016 02:46
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Does it even matter? Like in the guard I'd imagine # of deployments says 100x more than how long you've "been in", since you spend 98% of your time not army-ing in "garrison".
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Ace of Baes posted:Does it even matter? Like in the guard I'd imagine # of deployments says 100x more than how long you've "been in", since you spend 98% of your time not army-ing in "garrison". one guy from my unit got a bronze star (no valor) from our deployment he was the e-7 paperwork nazi he put himself in for it of course
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:one guy from my unit got a bronze star (no valor) from our deployment I was denied one (no Valor) because I was a SPC.
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Sep 6, 2016 04:11
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he also got a bronze star license plate
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about 2/3 of my company got purple hearts. exactly one person, my buddy, got a bronze star with v device with the exception of all the e-7 and aboves. everyone deserved the medals they got, except 2 of the 3 platoon sergeants. they were huge pieces of poo poo. way more people in my company deserved at least a loving bronze star.
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Mike-o posted:about 2/3 of my company got purple hearts jesus christ
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I've told the story before, but two E4s from my company had their valor awards downgraded from Silver Stars to Bronze Stars w/V because they were only SPCs. It's bullshit- their squad leader did get a Silver Star, and they did way more hardcore poo poo. At least everytime their SL was interviewed (it happened a bunch- he was in the Army video game and all that poo poo) and he took them to all these trade shows and cool poo poo where they got free stuff.
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Fudge posted:. Lol at calling an NCO a senior manager. Oh I would never do that. I was talking about officers.
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bulletsponge13 posted:I've told the story before, but two E4s from my company had their valor awards downgraded from Silver Stars to Bronze Stars w/V because they were only SPCs. It's bullshit- their squad leader did get a Silver Star, and they did way more hardcore poo poo. At least everytime their SL was interviewed (it happened a bunch- he was in the Army video game and all that poo poo) and he took them to all these trade shows and cool poo poo where they got free stuff. Yeah, this is cited as the reason why because even though my performance warranted it, my SL was a piece of a poo poo and got an ARCOM and "what would that say about him?" And "A soldier can't get awarded higher than his first line" blah blah blah. Doesn't matter. I didn't get one because of my rank. The people who put that poo poo on their NCOERs sure as hell did. spacetoaster posted:Oh I would never do that. I was talking about officers. You only know what a shovel looks like because you use one to shovel all of the salt collectively gathered through the tears of the enlisted to make sure that you can make a neat little path around Sergeant Major's grass and "goddamn it just let him have his grass Bob, can you stop antagonizing him?"
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Soulex posted:Yeah, this is cited as the reason why because even though my performance warranted it, my SL was a piece of a poo poo and got an ARCOM and "what would that say about him?" And "A soldier can't get awarded higher than his first line" blah blah blah. Doesn't matter. I didn't get one because of my rank. The people who put that poo poo on their NCOERs sure as hell did. That's the poo poo that pisses me off the most; I look at the citations for MoH recipients, especially the E4's and 5"s and they were part of platoons and squads all in the same poo poo -- could you imagine the blowback if a SNCO where to try and say that they deserve the MoH over their joe, because, "soldier can't get awarded higher than his first line"?
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There's a new article making rounds on Facebook on how the Army is broken right now: http://warontherocks.com/2016/09/si...arly+Bird+Brief Old news but well written. TLDR: Risk aversion, micromanagement, bureaucracy, listen to juniors, send people to school, strengthen ethics. I don't know how it is for the other branches but in aviation we've become so risk averse that its seriously affecting new generations of junior officer's flying careers.
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Sep 6, 2016 16:08
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It's affecting soldiers now. gently caress junior flight
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Soulex posted:It's affecting soldiers now. gently caress junior flight I think the most Army thing I've ever seen was when my first battalion lost a set of nods and a radio at Ramadi. They had every single person in the battalion stop what they were doing and sweep the entire loving base for like 3 days with only 4 hour breaks for sleep. They made us run through the amnesty box like 3 times a day. I think that was my "I'm never ever going to re-enlist" moment.
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