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I'm pretty sure those cyclops guys would have been almost impossible if that hill wasn't at a nice incline that made them wiff their attacks any idea how much longer this thing is up?
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Yodzilla posted:Wait what was it before? L2 to aim, R2 to fire. There was only one ammo type, and you had to equip it in the menu. No quickswitch for them either, though it didn't matter since there were only bows.
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Phantasium posted:L2 to aim, R2 to fire. yeah you could aim and fire without needing to let go of the aiming stick so the headshots were even more sick
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Sep 4, 2016 01:33
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Fonzarelli posted:I'm pretty sure those cyclops guys would have been almost impossible if that hill wasn't at a nice incline that made them wiff their attacks ends the 6th
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Sep 4, 2016 03:07
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Trick Question posted:I'm not sure how good you would have to be to prevent the game from crashing, but I'm definitely not getting there in three days. Yeah I have to apologize, I was a little drunk when I typed that. Sorry it's crashing for you, I'm honesty surprised how good and solid the alpha and beta have been. Just in general everything about how this game has been rolled out is unusual for a Japanese company.
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Sep 4, 2016 05:21
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Ninjutsu builds are so hilariously overpowered for boss fights.
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RatHat posted:Ninjutsu builds are so hilariously overpowered for boss fights. What skills are you taking?
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Sep 4, 2016 05:54
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I haven't done a Ninjutsu build myself, I'm just talking from what I've read. This Reddit thread sums it up pretty well. Basically you have ridiculous amounts of throwing items that do tons of damage, and since you can fight at range it makes bosses super easy.
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Sep 4, 2016 06:05
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I can kill that fight in about 45 seconds with about 3 hits from my spear. How is this over powered?
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Sep 4, 2016 07:59
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Because what you're doing requires a lot more skill than just spamming shurikens.
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Sep 4, 2016 08:05
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jesus the field area where the side mission takes place is a goldmine for getting loot from revenants. i pretty much replaced my entire gear set that i finished the first mission with in like 15 minutes
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That's not "overpowered" that's just doing what it's supposed to. Ninjitsu kind of sucks in a lot of situations, and excels in boss fights with room to dodge. Magic is really good at boss fights too, but group fights are a nightmare with it (and it needs a smoke bomb as a setup a lot of time because the cast times are ridiculous).
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Sep 4, 2016 12:12
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Hrmm I really don't think I like fighting a whole lot of guys at once in Nioh. The twilight field level is just kind of a mess of visual noise, uneven terrain, and clumps of enemies. They don't really fight together but instead just sort of flail around together in a big ball of hurt.
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Sep 4, 2016 18:17
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That's the only problem I have with the game so far. I had to kite group all over the room and hit them once with the spear because otherwise I could never get a hit in.
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Sep 4, 2016 18:55
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Yeah in games like Batman and other brawlers it's set up where enemies don't all just attack at once and group fights are manageable because of it. I mean hell even Ninja Gaiden did it because those were set encounters. In Nioh there are tooltips about fighting multiple things being foolish but there's not a lot you can do about that if they just all spawn in! I can't recall any areas in the Souls games that treat encounters like that. You always can control over who you pull and where in the environments. Also boy do the amrita memories do nothing for me. They're almost all "nooo don't kill me!" e: also it's kind of hilarious that you can get unique drops from revenants. I now have the Warrior of the East's helmet!
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Haha holy poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXlm24kBFtU
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Yeah that's bound to happen anytime you get to choose when the encounter starts. Takes a lot of investment though. As for group fights, your only real option, apart from the dubious "get good" (aka "get lucky with animation syncs") is smoke bombs and running. Running lets you lose stragglers and cut down the numbers you have to fight that way (doesn't work in that side mission, but I suspect that's why that one is a side mission not a primary). Smoke Bombs make everyone who saw you run into the smoke and stand there happily taking hits. Quickdraw, the Axe spinning attack, Spear spinning attack, Axe Charge, Dual Sword rapid slash, grenades or straight up attacking will destroy groups after a smoke bomb. And everybody gets enough ninja points at the start of the game for free to get smoke bomb (and have 1 left over for stuff like backstabs). Consumable grenades can also help. DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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Sep 4, 2016 21:43
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Doing the parry attacks to get i-frames and doing pulse Iai quickdraws also make group fights easier, the quickdraw is so loving good in this game that it's ridiculous.
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Yeah, quickdraw is amazing and I can't wait to get the Tier 4 versions Muneshige does. Ki-Break (easily done through the Ki-Sword-Burst)->Iai->Iai->Iai->Grounded Grapple is the most broken thing. Also the Bull Guardian Spirit and a CC Health Recovery weapon with a heavy armor build is hilarious. My tanky character heals for 200+ health every time I kill an enemy, and every time the host picks up a thing, or a yokai takes enough damage to bleed some xp I get healed some more. I hope they buff up the various "when getting hit heal for x" affixes, because they're kind of garbage. DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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Sep 5, 2016 00:21
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In both main missions included in the demon there is exactly 0 forced encounters with multiple foes you cannot avoid or kill one before the fight begins. Any notion to the contrary was you bumbling into it when there was a better option or an optional area. It isn't till twilight and the sub mission where you have to fight anything in a group.
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Belzac posted:In both main missions included in the demon there is exactly 0 forced encounters with multiple foes you cannot avoid or kill one before the fight begins. Any notion to the contrary was you bumbling into it when there was a better option or an optional area. It isn't till twilight and the sub mission where you have to fight anything in a group. Headshotting an enemy before a fight is definitely ideal but its not always possible, or the headshot might not one-shot depending on your stats. In the 2nd level in particular there are a lot of multiple encounters right around tight corners.
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And what ones of them are multiple enemies and not optional?
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Belzac posted:And what ones of them are multiple enemies and not optional? Plenty? Did you block out your memory of the beginning of the second level or something?
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I suppose it's possible but the only one I can vaugely think of is the very very very start where you can kill one with an arrow before triggering the other. All the rest are solos, patroling guys that you can wait out, or just very easy to kill one with a gun shot to the head before engaging. The only places where guys are linked around corners are the optional doors to open.
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RatHat posted:Plenty? Did you block out your memory of the beginning of the second level or something? there are windows in all the patrol routes for sniping and stone thowing to draw everyone one at a time but its tedious as gently caress
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I just played through ALL of the second level in normal mode only fighting one enemy at a time. Good to know I was justified.
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I can get Onryoki down to a third off his health just punching before getting greedy and dying. Turns out not being able to Ki pulse to remove Yokai pools fucks you up.
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You can't ki pulse with fists? That's kind of a big problem.
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RatHat posted:You can't ki pulse with fists? That's kind of a big problem. Nope. No Ki pulses, no sneakup attacks, just one two punches and a kick. I would say they don't expect you to fight barehanded, but there's explicitly a skill that raises unarmed damage so 
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Maybe they'll make an unarmed skill tree for the full game.
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I'm surprised there still isn't a hammer tree E: Oh poo poo I hadn't noticed tap my mountain fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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Sep 5, 2016 02:28
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Hammers are just classified as axes.
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Phantasium posted:Nope. No Ki pulses, no sneakup attacks, just one two punches and a kick. Use Salt.
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Doesn't salt only remove ki from yokai? I didn't think it removed yokai circles too.
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Belzac posted:Use Salt. Nah, that doesn't sound like a challenge run!
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I do hope they make unarmed viable. I put a point in that skill for the hell of it and I managed to parry the very first attack and stab the dude with his own sword 
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RatHat posted:Doesn't salt only remove ki from yokai? I didn't think it removed yokai circles too. It does.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zytzDLOFKs&t=21682s Oh wait, I should be dying now! jasoneatspizza fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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I don't know if the clip you linked is what you meant to show but I learned from it that the idle sword out animation for high stance has you very very very very slowly move backwards.
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Is there anything that can be done when people you visit get stupid and die? Like an item or something to revive them? Not that I'm actually gonna use it, but just outta curiosity.
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