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goodness
Jan 3, 2012

just keep swimming

evil_bunnY posted:

You understand you're not the typical sniper yes?

Another thing overwatch' made me realize is all multiplayer games need internal MMR.

Yeah. I played assault all day and had a much bigger impact on the match. Snipers are annoying but you just respawn and either kill them or avoid.

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New Concept Hole
Oct 10, 2012

東方動的

Fish Fry Andy posted:

They should make support guns become more accurate relative to their magazine size.

Smaller mag auto rifles in the beta gain accuracy faster on sustained fire-- or to be more specific, their first-shot spread multiplier is lower.

pedro0930
Oct 15, 2012
I play mostly support and the class isn't bad at all. How can people think no one needs ammo refill? That's pretty much the reason why tanks are running rampant because no one is resupplying the team's rocket AT guns.

Ammo pouch fills up grenades instantly, this has many applications depending on your grenade choice. With gas or incendiary grenade you can do area denial very well. Alternatively, AT grenade to help dealing with armor or impact grenade for demolition work.

Tripwire works great. I use the incendiary one since you can get multiple people with it and the fire slows people down even if they shoot the trap.

Gun-wise, I use the MG15 suppressor variant. With the bi-pod deployed, it has very little recoil and the bullet has extremely flat trajectory. This allows you to engage target at very long range. I like to set up in the houses that overlooks D and I can easily reach out to any target in the desert. Firing in quick, one second burst also mitigate the overheating problem almost completely. The barrel cools down extremely fast the moment you stops firing it, even for just half a sec.

pedro0930 fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Sep 5, 2016

Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011

xyigx posted:

Same as here xyigx

FR sent.

I finally unlocked the m1916 and holy cow, I lined up a shot on a not too distant sniper glint... and I actually hit him. It was insane.

Drewsky
Dec 29, 2010

I just think that the two first guns for support suck so bad that I can't play enough to get past them. I have fun with all the other classes but support I just can't do.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Drewsky posted:

I just think that the two first guns for support suck so bad that I can't play enough to get past them. I have fun with all the other classes but support I just can't do.

Weird, once you get past the annoying sight the Lewis is great for a run and gun sort of support as long as you watch your ammo for me anyway.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


Saw a flamethrower dude coming at me, immediately dropped to the ground, pulled out my anti-tank rifle, and shot him in the chest :hellyeah:

This game is cool but I don't think it's $60 cool. I almost feel like it's tradition to play the poo poo out of the beta and then never buy the full game

JFC
Oct 16, 2003

Jesus F Christ
Finger Lickin' God
I'm enjoying the game but I don't have many friends on Origin to play with. I'm JFC-SA if you want to friend add me.

Ohmygodsquad
Dec 14, 2005

I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

Saw a flamethrower dude coming at me, immediately dropped to the ground, pulled out my anti-tank rifle, and shot him in the chest :hellyeah:

This game is cool but I don't think it's $60 cool. I almost feel like it's tradition to play the poo poo out of the beta and then never buy the full game

I think it'll be better with a full set of maps. I dunno if this map was the best one to show things off. That one snoop dog played at E3 with the blimp seemed better.

I also haven't seen anyone comment on the environment destruction. Its fantastic. When I'm in a tank and don't have anything to shoot at I just blow up random buildings.

Ohmygodsquad fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Sep 5, 2016

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Ohmygodsquad posted:

I think it'll be better with a full set of maps. I dunno if this map was the best one to show things off. That one snoop dog played at E3 with the blimp seemed better.

I also haven't seen anyone comment on the environment destruction. Its fantastic. When I'm in a tank and don't have anything to shoot at I just blow up random buildings.

sinai might be nice after playing more close-in-fighting maps where tanks will get slammed quickly as an opportunity for vehicles to shine

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I know this is exacerbated by being a free beta that anyone can play but sometimes I swear I'm playing against (badly programmed) bots. Hanging out at D in a light tank just nets you kill after kill after kill of people literally just running straight toward you. There was one time where I left one member of a squad alive for something like 30 seconds and the rest of them just kept spawning on him right in front of me over and over.

It reminded me of playing 64 player Desert Combat in 1942, hopping in the A-10, and cluster bombing the bots that all run the same straight line between the flags

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008
Hot drat the removal of the timer fixed the issue with the questionable usefulness of the behemoth. Also you can blow up the rock bridge so if you tire of snipers, bomb that poo poo :smuggo:

But right now the bomber is the best thing because dat gunner. A fully loaded bomber playing with the gunner in mind and with a fighter escort keeping attack planes off can dominate haaaaaaard.

Anyway EA has my :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: :10bux: I'm completely in. First BF I've preordered since 2.

I'm King_Parliament on Origin if anyone wants to squad up

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~
Awesome, you can blow up the rock bridge now? I was getting so sick of dudes just lurking in the rocks above F.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Kibayasu posted:

I know this is exacerbated by being a free beta that anyone can play but sometimes I swear I'm playing against (badly programmed) bots. Hanging out at D in a light tank just nets you kill after kill after kill of people literally just running straight toward you. There was one time where I left one member of a squad alive for something like 30 seconds and the rest of them just kept spawning on him right in front of me over and over.

It reminded me of playing 64 player Desert Combat in 1942, hopping in the A-10, and cluster bombing the bots that all run the same straight line between the flags

Because people are idiot spotters it can be stupidly hard to see a tank if the tank isn't silhouetted on a ridge and isn't spam firing constantly. Or at least it is for my stupid rear end.

The number of times I know there is a tank *somewhere* but get shot in the face as I look the wrong way is embarrassingly high.

Kerosene19
May 7, 2007


Trabisnikof posted:

The number of times I know there is a tank *somewhere* but get shot in the face as I look the wrong way is embarrassingly high.

:agreed:

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Trabisnikof posted:

Because people are idiot spotters it can be stupidly hard to see a tank if the tank isn't silhouetted on a ridge and isn't spam firing constantly. Or at least it is for my stupid rear end.

The number of times I know there is a tank *somewhere* but get shot in the face as I look the wrong way is embarrassingly high.

The only time I get pissed off is when I'm sitting in the tank sponson and shooting directly at / repeatedly marking the tank that is sitting right outside of the driver's peripheral vision and shooting shells into our flank at point blank range, and the stupid loving driver just sits there panning slightly left and right to look for him, never moving, until he gets blown up. Then half the time when I try to jump out and leave the moron to die, I get placed right in front of the incoming enemy shell or just get vaporized by their passengers anyway. It is astounding how little situational awareness some people have. Like it doesn't even occur to them that is there is space beyond their 80 degree window view.

The game definitely needs to toss up a little hint about third-person view when you get in the drivers seat because it makes driving around / seeing enemies so much easier.

Also man, even with the xp bug ironed out, ranking up kits takes forever. I'm still at rank 0 with support somehow, despite playing like 10 matches with it and constantly being in the top 10 scorewise. I wonder if it doesn't count when you're in a vehicle or something, since that's technically a different class.

I hope we get to keep the dogtags for people we melee killed in the beta. Today I had 3 enemies spawn right in front of me and I beat them all to death with a shovel.

Monocled Falcon
Oct 30, 2011
Tanks might be easier to deal with when more people unlock the at rocket thing.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:

This game is cool but I don't think it's $60 cool. I almost feel like it's tradition to play the poo poo out of the beta and then never buy the full game

I feel the same too and it doesn't seem like much has changed since Bad Company. Sure, it's prettier but the core gameplay hasn't gone beyond pre-determined environmental destruction and gameplay modes haven't changed in the slightest.

Ideally, DICE would get smart and add a sequential Conquest mode but for whatever reason simply refuse. Hopefully at one point they'll release an updated 2142 but until then there are plenty of the titles this fall and winter that are just better.

JFC
Oct 16, 2003

Jesus F Christ
Finger Lickin' God
I choose to spawn into a bomber

Pilot in Team Chat: "JFC could you get out of the bomber please"
I notice we are in the middle of nowhere on the map and heading out of bounds
I look for the correct chat channel to type "Take me to an Objective and I'll bail"
Pilot 4 seconds later: "I'll bet JFC is a real oval office. Get the gently caress out"
We're deep in out of bounds
Me: "Hey take me back to E and I'll jump"
Pilot: "oval office"

fin

wolffenstein
Aug 2, 2002
 
Pork Pro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S74p9xwNsuU

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*
Did they also buff the tailguns when they removed the time limit? I managed to take out 5 planes the last game and I usually can't take out even one unless someone else is shooting at it too.

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Bloodplay it again posted:

Did they also buff the tailguns when they removed the time limit? I managed to take out 5 planes the last game and I usually can't take out even one unless someone else is shooting at it too.

They didn't make any actual changes to the game. They just changed the server settings. The tail guns are the same as they've always been.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Has the in-game chat always been a 24-character wide text box?

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Bloodplay it again posted:

Did they also buff the tailguns when they removed the time limit? I managed to take out 5 planes the last game and I usually can't take out even one unless someone else is shooting at it too.

I think some of the tailguns are different based on which plane variant you are in, but I haven't spent enough time in the gunner seat to confirm that. There are definitely times where it feels decently useful, and others where every single shot seems to deal 1 damage and have terrible spread.

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
Literally can't play this anymore because it crashes immediately on loading a map or 2 min after tops.

Did all the usual poo poo to try to fix it but reinstalling drivers, installing older drivers, reinstalling the game and whatnot have not helped at all.


edit: I had turned off the Pagefile and forgotten to turn it back on. gently caress me forever.

Wooper fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Sep 5, 2016

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

SeanBeansShako posted:

Oh thank gently caress, I thought it was me despite landing so many shots at the enemy.

Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on there but the tailgun is just a complete non-issue for any other plane in the sky. It seems to do less damage than your average infantry weapon... from the ground... across the map. I have unloaded the entire "clip" into the engine of a plane that was just short of riding our tail into the ground. If I was being even remotely threatening, I didn't know it, and the chase plane didn't seem to give a single gently caress about all the bullets flying directly at him while he happily destroyed the bomber and then flew off seemingly no worse for wear. (Not even a puff of smoke or damage to fuselage.) I wonder if the tailgun isn't just outright bugged and simply not doing damage.

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum
This game is really fun but I am having a game breaking bug greater than half the time I play. I can't use any gadgets or the pistol, I am stuck with the main weapons half the time I play. And sometime I can't even spot or fire from a tank. Seems like this is just me though as I don't see any mention anywhere. In the latest instance of this, if I play scout, I can't do my k rounds. But everything else seems to work.

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

Rusty posted:

This game is really fun but I am having a game breaking bug greater than half the time I play. I can't use any gadgets or the pistol, I am stuck with the main weapons half the time I play. And sometime I can't even spot or fire from a tank. Seems like this is just me though as I don't see any mention anywhere. In the latest instance of this, if I play scout, I can't do my k rounds. But everything else seems to work.

I get this occasionally. It seems to be an issue with the game not properly loading up what you've actually unlocked. The only way I've gotten past it is by FIRST loading Origin INDEPENDENTLY of BF1, THEN firing up BF1, or, if that doesn't work, closing out of BF1 and restarting it.

Symetrique
Jan 2, 2013




Gonkish posted:

Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on there but the tailgun is just a complete non-issue for any other plane in the sky. It seems to do less damage than your average infantry weapon... from the ground... across the map. I have unloaded the entire "clip" into the engine of a plane that was just short of riding our tail into the ground. If I was being even remotely threatening, I didn't know it, and the chase plane didn't seem to give a single gently caress about all the bullets flying directly at him while he happily destroyed the bomber and then flew off seemingly no worse for wear. (Not even a puff of smoke or damage to fuselage.) I wonder if the tailgun isn't just outright bugged and simply not doing damage.

I've had the opposite experience, both while tail gunning and while being shot at by a tail gun. In an attacker I was able to swap seats to the gun and basically disable a dogfighter that was riding my tail several times. If you're expecting the tail gun to outright destroy an enemy plane, its not going to happen. At best, you'll damage him enough that he'll back off, but dogfighters also have an instant repair thats on a cooldown, so maybe thats why the plane you were shooting at took so much damage. Try aiming at the upper part of the engine, planes might have a lot of health but pilots definitely dont.

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum

Gonkish posted:

I get this occasionally. It seems to be an issue with the game not properly loading up what you've actually unlocked. The only way I've gotten past it is by FIRST loading Origin INDEPENDENTLY of BF1, THEN firing up BF1, or, if that doesn't work, closing out of BF1 and restarting it.
Okay, as long as it isn't just me, but it just seems like I am affected more than the average person because I have this bug most of the time I play.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
How do you choose different load outs for the tank thingies?

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008

SquadronROE posted:

How do you choose different load outs for the tank thingies?

When you select the tank icon it reserves that spot for you and you can click the customize button in bottom left.

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008
Heads up that the Battlefield twitter reported they're simulating first day server problems, so expect some weirdness. I've had some today I didnt have Saturday or Sunday.

New Zealand can eat me
Aug 29, 2008

:matters:


You know that stupid ring-cliff at F that is usually infested with snipers? You can actually ride a horse up that arch and ride around the ring over and over, trampling them all :allears:

I saw a lot of Fog today, which has been really cool.

The building destruction is great, I will give them that. It's really satisfying to bring the building down on top of bad snipers. The AT Rifle seems more suited for this task than the dynamite, which is buggy and weird.

Does anybody have some good pictures of the angle to line up at to get F from the A cannon? I've tried a few times and have only gotten a bit of damage once

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

In addition to the tank cannon on the tank buster attack plane I had no idea it got anti-tank bombs as well and those are also amazing.

turn it up TURN ME ON
Mar 19, 2012

In the Grim Darkness of the Future, there is only war.

...and delicious ice cream.
The balloon buster thingy with the rockets is awful. Don't use it.

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008

SquadronROE posted:

The balloon buster thingy with the rockets is awful. Don't use it.

Use it against bombers and emerge a changed man.

swampcow
Jul 4, 2011

I love being assault and using gas grenades while under siege. It's like ninja smoke, except the ninja doesn't leave and he also has a shotgun.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



DeliciousPatriotism posted:

Heads up that the Battlefield twitter reported they're simulating first day server problems

A bold strategy

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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

We held a 20 point lead all game and lost ultimately by 300-299 jfc

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