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Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.
The next update has five FMV videos, so expect poo poo to get nuts.

Should be up at some point today.

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Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mega64 posted:

The next update has five FMV videos, so expect poo poo to get nuts.

Should be up at some point today.

:allears:

one of the more amazing sequences in any FF

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.










Bahamut has arrived at Alexandria.



That's Bahamut, isn't it...?

Dagger hasn't even become Queen yet, and already she's got to make some major decisions that will determine the destiny of her nation.



Yes, Your Highness! Our soldiers have already assembled and await your orders.



This is an emergency! Get your act together before the princess arrives!





Please give your orders.





So this little thing is kinda dumb. You want to give orders to the Pluto knights that best correspond to their personalities. However, you'll only actually know about these if you actually talked to all eight as Steiner way back at the beginning of Disc 1. And even if you did this, you certainly won't remember it at this point. Good thing I compiled this info earlier.

quote:

I'll summarize them here since all of them start with the same text up to "given orders to":

* The double super-sleuths, Blutzen and Kohel.
* Our most inspirational writer, Laudo.
* The most famous artillerist in the realm, Dojebon.
* The only man who can name all the girls in town, Weimar.
* The knight with the knack for navigating the neighborhood, Haagen.
* The winner of last year's cannonball race, Mullenkedheim.

And this is Breireicht who knows all this stuff and spends his time running up stairs.

This is the only time you'll get this information and it's important to know to succeed in a sidequest in Disc 3.



Blutzen and Kohel are the the super-sleuths, so this job is right up their alley.





Haagan knows the neighborhood and Weimar knows the women, so they are best-suited for protecting the townspeople.





Laudo's a gifted writer and thus best-suited for writing the request from Lindblum. Breireicht spends his time memorizing information and running fast, so he's best-suited for delivering the request.





Dojebon and Mullenkedheim are both gifted at shooting things, so we make them shoot things.





Our reward depends on how well we pick. The soldiers will be less confident doing things they're not assigned to do. Two correct teams nets an Elixir, one a Hi-Potion. The female-exclusive Angel Earrings you get from all four boosts Holy damage and Strength, and teaches Auto-Regen (very useful support ability due to how FF9's ATB works), Reis's Wind if Freya somehow doesn't have it yet, and MP +20% for Dagger and Eiko.







I don't know what to do...





-----

:siren: :siren:

(SERIOUSLY LISTEN TO THIS)





Mistodons are wrecking havoc upon the town.



I will give my all for Alexandria!
Well said! Let us march on to victory!

However, Alexandria's two greatest knights are here to save the kingdom from this threat.



Beatrix comes with her signature sword, Save the Queen. The rest of her equipment you can strip off at your leisure, though you'll be fighting with her a bit, including a four-battle gauntlet at the end.



Rusty's a bit, well, rusty since it's been awhile. We'll be fighting nothing but Mistodons, so remove the Blood Sword and go with Undead Killer. Level Up is also much recommended (unless you're low-leveling it) since this is a great opportunity to catch Steiner back up to speed.



Let's get to saving Alexandria!



Even without criticals and with being as underleveled as he is, Steiner still has no issue one-shotting these guys. Beatrix is better off as support while Steiner does his usual "wreck poo poo" thing.



Steiner starts at L14. He'll be L21 by the end of this.







Beatrix's damage output isn't as great, probably due to Save the Queen having a weird formula or whatever.







The third fight has two Mistodons.





Beatrix knows Life, and it's still as effective here as it was end of Disc 2.



At this point, we'll fight four in a row. I strip Beatrix down to just her weapon for the free loot.







I'm fine. What about you? You're wounded!
It's just a scratch.







No! I cannot face the princess until we destroy all these beasts. On my honor, I vow to protect the princess, the citizens of Alexandria, and...



Steiner...







I have no regrets!



What is it?
I...





Our last battle once again brings us two of these guys.





Steiner's intense desire to protect triggers his Trance automatically.



You do not stop someone trying to protect the one they love.





And that goes both ways.

-----





I hear music... Where is it coming from...? Is it coming from upstairs...?

We've got control of Dagger now.



We're kinda railroaded at this point, though.



The only place we can go is through this left door, into the only part of Alexandria Castle we haven't seen before.



As Dagger passes these statues, they magically lower and cross their swords.







Something bizarre is going on here.







But it's not like Dagger has any better option, right?



I can still hear the music. Where is it coming from...?



Mother... Zidane... No... I can't depend on them anymore!



Dagger's been through a lot, and is still going through even more now, but she still has to be strong for her people, even if she must do it with only her own power.

-----

AIRSHIP NOISES



It can't be helped. I designed this ship as an oglop, after all. So, I have no <gwok> idea what could happen.
Sounds like it might crash any minute.
Perhaps... But I think we can at least make it to Alexandria.
Oh, man... I guess we'd better cross our fingers.
Zidane...I'm starting to feel sick...
It's probably from the flight. Go inside and get some rest. Try to stay in the middle of the ship. You'll feel less movement.
Go on, Vivi.
Okay... Thanks...

I mean, Vivi may have other reasons to dislike airships considering the last time he was on one. Also, go figure Amarant actually being helpful to someone. I guess not even Amarant can be a dick to Vivi.



What?
I saw something sparkle.
Huh?





Dagger!? Eiko, what's going on?
I thought I just heard Dagger's voice.



What? Geez, something's wrong with this ship...
This light...



Holy judgment?





The summoner is being called...





r.i.p. Eiko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMms8Zu4TtY







Eiko, you forgot you can't actually fly, didn't you.



That's OK, at least you'll get a good burial since you're gonna land right at Alexandria.







Yeah, like the six-year-old wouldn't jump off an airship without knowing that would happen.







The summoners are reunited. But what is Eiko's plan?





I heard your voice on the airship.
No wonder... I felt your presence, too, and all of a sudden, I was covered in light.



It's happening again!
Dagger, this is the light of destiny.
The light of destiny?



This light appears when a holy eidolon calls for its summoner.

The crystal must've been divided to prevent any wicked powers from taking control of this holy eidolon. Now that the four crystal shards are together again and there is peril here, the eidolon enshrined here is calling for the two summoners who possess these jewels. The time has come to realize the full might of Alexandria.



But... I don't know what to do.
It's okay. I'll show you.





Uh-huh. Now, pray in your heart.











https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WWm6hgpSTY









So the summoners successfully summon the eidolon of Alexandria, none other than Alexander.



Alexander is a staple summon in the series, beginning with FF6 and showing up in most games since (though arguably the Giant of Babil in FF4 may be considered a version of Alexander). It's essentially a giant holy robot that shoots holy rays upon its enemies. It's portrayed as one of the more powerful eidolons in the series.

This version's the only major one to have wings, but it's also by far the most iconic interpretation of Alexander.



The summoners have brought forth Alexander after 500 years of dormancy, so let's hope it can save the kingdom from the wrath of Bahamut.







Indeed, Bahamut's Megaflare effortlessly bounces off Alexander's wings (because it has Auto-Reflect equipped).



And here is Alexander in all his winged holy robot glory.



This is one of the longest and easily coolest FMVs in the game, so if you haven't watched it yet I highly suggest doing so.



Alexander's signature attack is Holy Judgment, which rains massive rays of holy light upon its foes.





It's potent enough to easily dispatch Bahamut.



Alexandria is saved.

SILENCE



So, you wish to defend the castle with your brilliant wings...? How admirable... Your powers even transcent Bahamut's... Alexander, I've been waiting for you.



Kuja's plan wasn't to destroy Alexandria for revenge or anything like that. He was using Brahne to get the four gems together himself so he could capture Alexander for his own purposes. Bahamut was the bait in this case, used as a lure to bring out Alexander.

Kuja's plan this entire time was to obtain Alexander and use its power for his own purposes.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLz45ISA7SU





The eyeball has a name. The Invincible is a name that stems from FF3's ultimate airship. This thing had cannons, had a fat chocobo, had shops, and could even fly over mountains when no other airship could do so. It also had a kicking theme.



So it may not surprise you to learn that this bizarre eyeball Kuja has control over is not some weird mystical being, but rather a massive ship.

:siren: :siren:



I granted you the freedom to do as you wish in Gaia for one purpose alone. Now that you have lost sight of your mission, I will no longer tolerate your actions.



Looks like someone above has decided to end Kuja's game here.



Wait WHAT THE gently caress!?





Enslave Alexander, as you have enslaved Bahamut!







That mysterious man is none other than Garland. Garland is best known as the first boss of FF1, who eventually becomes warped into the final boss Chaos due to FF1's insane time travel shenanigans.

This is also very likely the man that Kuja is collecting the eidolons to defeat, as he alludes to several times back in the final chapter of Disc 2.



If it is indeed Garland, he must know my plan! But why has he assumed control of the Invincible...?



At any rate, Kuja's plans are getting derailed, but all this poo poo's getting above my head so let's switch gears.

-----







Well, we had to get here somehow.



<Gwok-gwok!> That's right!









Where is Her Highness!?
I don't know. We're looking for her, too.





We have to find Eiko, too.
They're probably together.

Now we've got our team ready to find Dagger and Eiko.





And also escort idiots too preoccupied to realize the entire nation is blowing up around them.





Oh hey gently caress Dagger let's fight a book.





This is Tantarian, an optional side-boss you can only fight now and back at Disc 2 when you're rescuing Dagger then.



There's two forms to this book, and this is by far the more dangerous one.





Doom, of course, sets up an instant-death countdown.





Paper Storm can hurt a good chunk. It also has a painful single-target attack as well.







In this form, it has sky-high defenses. Each time you damage it, it flips forward that many pages.



It has an Ether, Elixir, Silver Fork, and for its rare steal a Demon's Mail, a really nice armor upgrade for Freya and Steiner. I have Zidane steal all battle but never grab it. Not a big deal either way.





The trick is to get the book between page 150 and 200.



Then its defenses drop and all it'll cast is Poison. Big deal, especially if the entire party has Antibody. Devil Killer is also handy since this is the first Demon enemy in the game.

It's vulnerable to Darkness and Slow, so go with those as usual.



When open, it's vulnerable to Fire. It has a huge chunk of HP though, close to 22k. If hit with a physical attack or if enough time passes, Tantarian will close again and you'll have to damage it back to its vulnerable form.

It's pretty tricky and painful, especially if you do this in Disc 2, but it's not too bad thanks to Vivi.



The rewards are two-fold. First, 30AP is nothing at all to sneeze at.



Second, the reward is Running Shoes. These boost Speed a bit and teach Haste, Auto-Potion, and Auto-Haste. The latter, as you may expect, is one of the best passives in the game since it doesn't wear off like normal Haste. These guys are also limited quantity so might as well grab them here.

Zidane's definitely getting these to make stealing much easier to do. Gotta level up Thievery some more, after all!





drat straight I am.







Oh yeah, more people to save.



Otherwise it's a straightforward trip up the same path Dagger took.



<Gwok!> So, this is the secret of Alexandria Castle...
Are Dagger and Eiko up there?
Maybe. Let's go see.





Wh-Why? I wanna go with you. I wanna help Dagger and Eiko, too.
Kuja might destroy this castle at any minute. Get out of here while you can. Go on, Vivi. Don't worry about me. Someday, you'll probably do the same thing for someone who's really important to you.





Next time you wanna play hero, don't even bother calling me.





But remember, this is not just your war, so don't even think about fighting Kuja now. As soon as you find Dagger, leave.
Alright.
Come on, Vivi. Let's go.







But I have to go with my instincts on this one. I don't know what else to say...



Zidane's willing to risk his life for Dagger, but not his friends'. He cares about them too much to get them involved in something so reckless. Zidane is loyal to his friends to the end.



What the heck was that!?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q4IQNA9vqI





Invincible is making its move on Alexander...







...but it certainly doesn't seem to be trying to capture it. Garland seems more determined to simply kill it instead.







Things are going bad for both Dagger and Alexander.



Even Eiko is helpless to save Dagger now.





The castle's crumbling apart, and Dagger's going along with it.



But as usual, Zidane is here to the rescue.



And despite all the bullshit they keep telling themselves, they couldn't be any happier to be together again.





It's a happy ending.



...except for Eiko.

...and Kuja.

...and Alexandria.

...and Dagger once reality sinks in for her.

SILENCE



I don't know why I wasn't honest with you...



Dagger is speechless.







We're still not out of the woods, yet, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heWuiG5dCOs





So the Invincible's about to work its magic...







...and proceeds to destroy Alexandria.



In microscopic proportions, the process still continues after thousands of years. Eventually, these circulating souls will no longer belong to Gaia. They must never be circulated back...



I would never imagine he would choose to end his remaining days on Gaia... Perhaps, this was his fate, set in ages past.



So at the end, Dagger and Eiko fail to protect Alexandria. The holy summon Alexander, who was supposed to protect Alexandria, was nothing more than a pawn between some mysterious power struggle between Kuja and Garland. Garland won out and destroyed Alexander rather than capture it, destroying much of Alexandria in the process. Garland assumes Kuja dead now, and resolves himself to facing his counterpart, which is apparently Zidane? What the hell is Zidane's role in all this, anyway?

It doesn't matter as Zidane, Dagger, and Eiko are very likely dead now. So next time we continue with our end-game party of Vivi, Freya, Amarant, and Steiner.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.
There are a lot of scenes in FFIX that've stuck with me through the years, and this is one of them. Alexander remains my favorite summon in the franchise because of it, and I always feel a little melancholy on replays when he gets iced by Garland and dies defending his city. I still remember being a kid and watching the whole thing unfold for the first time.

FFIX is good, y'all.

Serifina
Oct 30, 2011

So... dizzy...
This whole thing is seriously one of the very best sequences in the game, and to me, in the series. There's so much going on and it's all very well-paced, with one of the best soundtracks in the series. It all works just so well.

Bahamut's attack and defeat, only for Kuja's apparent master to appear and destroy not just Alexander but Alexandria as well, interspersed with the battle in town, the summoning itself, and even Kuja being truly disturbed for the very first time...

The look Garnet has when she sees Zidane, and again when she realizes he's saved her - it's great. I don't think any of the other games portray emotion as well as this game does.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

There is one subtle hint that Zidane is special beyond a connection to Kuja.

Star Platinum
May 5, 2010

Bad Seafood posted:

There are a lot of scenes in FFIX that've stuck with me through the years, and this is one of them. Alexander remains my favorite summon in the franchise because of it, and I always feel a little melancholy on replays when he gets iced by Garland and dies defending his city. I still remember being a kid and watching the whole thing unfold for the first time.

FFIX is good, y'all.

:agreed:

This part of the game is a rollercoaster of emotions and Alexander utterly owning Bahamut is rivaled by only one other FMV in the game, anyone who has played it knows what I'm talking about. Also, it'll take a while to get there, but I'd just like to take this chance to say that Garland owns and is secretly the best villain in the game.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rigged Death Trap posted:

There is one subtle hint that Zidane is special beyond a connection to Kuja.

is it the massive cheekbones?

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!
Eiko glaring at Zidane and Dagger at the end of that FMV is the icing on the cake. And with the ups and downs this game has, it fits perfectly. Disc 3 is nothing short of magic. There's a reason I have a permanent save at the beginning.

Bad Seafood
Dec 10, 2010


If you must blink, do it now.

Star Platinum posted:

:agreed:

This part of the game is a rollercoaster of emotions and Alexander utterly owning Bahamut is rivaled by only one other FMV in the game, anyone who has played it knows what I'm talking about. Also, it'll take a while to get there, but I'd just like to take this chance to say that Garland owns and is secretly the best villain in the game.
Garland is also my favorite bad guy in the game but I feel like we should probably talk about him later.

Alxprit
Feb 7, 2015

<click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!



Dude's sobby as heck but doesn't keep him from being a major pain. Early strategies for fighting it in Disc 2 involve abusing Steiner's Minus Strike ability. While getting Auto-Haste early is nice, it's hardly necessary.

Also, everything is great despite everything being ruined.

While I'm at it, here's some playable characters I didn't show before (including Kuja because Record Keeper adds villains to be cool), and a sprite of a Zidane battle used in a Dissidia event.



Southhouse-
Oct 15, 2012
Tantarian here is another reference to an earlier game in the series. In FFV, you encounter these enemies in the Library of the Ancients:



They are all pictured on the different sides of the book, there the mask on the front, the demon on the spine, the spider on the back and the face inside.

This section of the game is one of the most memorable sequences of the series for me, from the presentation of the FMVs, the music and the new plot threads popping up all at once. FFIX is fantastic with its use of leitmotifs and I love how Sword of Doubt, Rose of May and now The Thing I Must Protect use the same melody but brings out completely different emotions.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

Mega64 posted:

It doesn't matter as Zidane, Dagger, and Eiko are very likely dead now. So next time we continue with our end-game party of Vivi, Freya, Amarant, and Steiner.

Not mentioned as much as the other tributes and callbacks to the classic series is it matches the massive turbulence of the parties makeup and casualties as FFIV.

So we've got the Black Mage, the Ninja, the Dragoon and Knight for the final party, Eiko or Dagger must have survived to be the white mage/summoner character.

DeafNote
Jun 4, 2014

Only Happy When It Rains
cant go wrong with a guy who has an organ following him everywhere

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I told you Disc 3 was the best.

Also, needless to say, Dissidia has Kuja hate FFI's Garland, possibly as an extension of his relationship with IX's.

DeafNote posted:

cant go wrong with a guy who has an organ following him everywhere

Keeper of Time is the best leitmotif in a game filled with great leitmotifs.

biscuits and crazy
Oct 10, 2012
Garland really doesn't gently caress around, does he?

And that theme music. Holy poo poo its awesome.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
In all the amazing things about this sequence (and there are many) my favourite is the subtle callback to Zidane and Dagger's first meeting with the swinging on the bunting.

And Eiko's bitchface. Always Eiko's bitchface.

SorataYuy
Jul 17, 2014

That... didn't even make sense.

FeyerbrandX posted:

Not mentioned as much as the other tributes and callbacks to the classic series is it matches the massive turbulence of the parties makeup and casualties as FFIV.

So we've got the Black Mage, the Ninja, the Dragoon and Knight for the final party, Eiko or Dagger must have survived to be the white mage/summoner character.

Amarant is a straight-up Monk, Zidane's the Thief/Ninja for the party (his massive damage output is Ninja territory.)

SloppyDoughnuts
Apr 9, 2010

I set fire to the rain watched it pour as I touched your face
:goonsay: Alexander has wings in FF14, actually! Although they're entirely ornamental and are basically only there as an FF9 reference.



I couldn't find a clearer ingame image so here's some concept art.



Those 2 big curved spikes are coming out of his reverse-elbows and aren't actually connected to his wings.

SloppyDoughnuts fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Sep 5, 2016

Kanfy
Jan 9, 2012

Just gotta keep walking down that road.
I guess you could say that Garland... really knocked them all down.

While all the poo poo going down obviously takes the spotlight, I'm just going to point out that Tantarian is an enormous dick of a boss especially if you fight it as early as you can (and why wouldn't you unless you'd know you can do it later), and that Protecting My Devotion (which is the way better name :colbert:) is probably in the top 5 best tracks in the game.

SorataYuy posted:

Amarant is a straight-up Monk, Zidane's the Thief/Ninja for the party (his massive damage output is Ninja territory.)

Throw is a signature Ninja move rather than a Monk one though, so he's a bit of a hybrid.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'm about to hit Madain Sari in my playthrough right now, so a day or two more and I should be playing along (more or less) with the LP. I actually got Madain's ring from Fossil Roo, which isn't as great of a feat when you can just get them at Black Mage Village, but it's a thing. The ring was in fact the first and only item I found in the digging section, so I consider it a win. Took less than five minutes too.

I'm also reminded of the first time I played, in which for some reason Zidane had the Exploda thief sword from the moment you get it until mid-end disk 3 when you're somewhere else and get the Orichalchum Dirk/Knife? I think it was. For those playing at home, that is over an entire disk worth of game without me finding a weapon upgrade for the main character, who is your main source of damage for about half that time. I honestly don't know how I did, considering that every other time I've played I keep finding weapons that AREN'T the Exploda to murder mobs with. I guess I was a young moron who didn't understand synth shops very well at the time.


On the note of Disk 3 being the best disk; I love it to bits myself, but there's two or three gimmick dungeons coming up which always annoy me. One of them being the biggest kick to the nuts for any jRPG player who is used to selling their old gear, even with the brutal wakeup call of synth shops.

Tashilicious fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Sep 5, 2016

Squarely Circle
Jul 28, 2010

things worsen and worsen
RIP giant holy robot you were really cool :smith:

Earnestly
Apr 24, 2010

Jazz hands!

Slight spoiler in your post, chief.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Earnestly posted:

Slight spoiler in your post, chief.

If you mean the thing under the tag, its been liberally implied in at least two lines in just this update

Mega64
May 23, 2008

I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

Mega64 posted:

:siren: Tag mild spoilers, don't post major spoilers at all. Mild would be stuff like future characters, unimportant bosses, and minor plot details. Don't post major plot spoilers, please. :siren:

I've been kinda lax about this lately, but I don't want people getting accidentally spoiled on anything or for people to discuss important stuff I haven't even gotten to yet. Not like there isn't plenty to talk about in the last few updates so far.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I thought I kept it vague enough to be in line with the info the player is presented at this point, but I'll change it.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Fun fact: Tantarian is probably a mistransliteration of Dantalion, one of the goetic demons described in the Lesser Key of Solomon. He's described as having many different faces, and that he holds a book in his right hand.

The Lesser Key of Solomon is used as a general grab-bag of names for fantasy settings, and several appear in this game.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

Mega64 posted:

I've been kinda lax about this lately, but I don't want people getting accidentally spoiled on anything or for people to discuss important stuff I haven't even gotten to yet. Not like there isn't plenty to talk about in the last few updates so far.

Like that today Alexandrians will not go quietly into the night.

For today... we celebrate... Our LABOR DAY :byodood:

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Yeah, the survivors are going to be laboring pretty hard to rebuild everything.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Hey now Lindblum and Alexandria have more in common than ever before! Big castles, magitek, both got WMD by assholes with questionable fashion sense

Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.
FFIX went right into my favourites list more or less the instant I got it, and this cutscene... had nothing to do with it because it was literal years before I ever got to actually see it myself.

My disk 3 was scratched in some maddeningly precise way so that this cutscene always, always, froze right at the start, and the only way to continue the game was to open and close the disk tray, skipping it. I was never entirely sure what had happened although I could guess most of it (Alexander being destroyed, everything exploding, Zidane saving Dagger). It wasn't until The Youtube Age when I finally saw that cutscene, and I laughed for a straight minute the first time I saw Eiko's reaction.

This game is amazing.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
Echoing the sentiment about this sequence. It's great and one of the biggest regrets I have about this game is being unable to summon Alexander. He got chumped thoroughly by the Invincible.

Also one of the minor details that's really neat about the sequence is the visual implication of how the Invincible chumped Alexander: first it knocked away it's defenses, then took control of it (via Garnet's completed crystal) and got it to decapitate itself. Then it finished the job on it's own.

Tashilicious posted:

Hey now Lindblum and Alexandria have more in common than ever before! Big castles, magitek, both got WMD by assholes with questionable fashion sense

Garland doesn't have questionable Fashion Sense, he's rocking it old school villain style.

Star Platinum
May 5, 2010
I cannot condone any badmouthing of Gothic Iron Man Christopher Lee. :colbert:

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Star Platinum posted:

I cannot condone any badmouthing of Gothic Iron Man Christopher Lee. :colbert:

:allears:


But seriously garland has no chest or even organs it seems. The angles on those screenshots don't do it justice.

Tashilicious fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Sep 5, 2016

Quantum Toast
Feb 13, 2012

Fedule posted:

My disk 3 was scratched in some maddeningly precise way so that this cutscene always, always, froze right at the start, and the only way to continue the game was to open and close the disk tray, skipping it. I was never entirely sure what had happened although I could guess most of it (Alexander being destroyed, everything exploding, Zidane saving Dagger). It wasn't until The Youtube Age when I finally saw that cutscene, and I laughed for a straight minute the first time I saw Eiko's reaction.
That's weird, mine had the exact same problem, but only from the second time onwards. First time I played this bit it worked just fine.

Bufuman
Jun 15, 2013

Sleep in the briefing room.
At your own peril.
One thing I'd like to point out is that The Thing I Must Protect is a combination of Steiner and Beatrix's themes. Sure, Beatrix's part is extremely obvious, but you'd be surprised how many people never noticed Steiner's bit in there too. Uematsu's talent is once again at play here, and turning the two themes from comedic and somber to inspirational and uplifting is a great example of why he's such a beloved icon.

But yeah, FF9 really does the traditional JRPG "poo poo just got REAL" part of the game quite well. The only bad part is that Alexander has always been a favorite summon of mine and I'm kinda sad to see him go. It would've been cool to have him as a secret summon or something, but nope.

Bufuman fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Sep 6, 2016

Fedule
Mar 27, 2010


No one left uncured.
I got you.
Oh by the way I believe it's time for people to start posting that one OCRemix. You know the one.

Okay fine I'll do it. It's The Rose General, the only piece of music to actually make me say "holy poo poo" out loud.

morallyobjected
Nov 3, 2012

Fedule posted:

My disk 3 was scratched in some maddeningly precise way so that this cutscene always, always, froze right at the start, and the only way to continue the game was to open and close the disk tray, skipping it. I was never entirely sure what had happened although I could guess most of it (Alexander being destroyed, everything exploding, Zidane saving Dagger). It wasn't until The Youtube Age when I finally saw that cutscene, and I laughed for a straight minute the first time I saw Eiko's reaction.

This was my disc 4, only without the ability to fix it by popping the tray open. I did a certain long section at the beginning of disc 4 about three times before I found someone to borrow another copy of it from.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!
I had that problem with Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete. I bought a copy snd Disc 2 wouldn't load at all. So I bought another. Disc 2 wouldn't load. Then a third. Disc 2 wouldn't load. I have yet to finish that game. And it's a shame too because I hear you get to punch Nash's face in

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Krumbsthumbs
Oct 23, 2010

2nd Place.
1st Loser.
Tantarian is actually quicker and possibly easier to beat on disc 2 since Steiner's Magic Sword doesn't count as a physical attack, so you can hit him with two people for hefty damage and quickly melt him. As mentioned earlier, you can also have Steiner's HP at a point to use Minus Strike and instantly pop open the book, making the fight a breeze. Getting those Boots on disc 2 is very nice, and if you're lucky enough to grab the Silver Fork then it makes Quina deal solid physical damage.

Krumbsthumbs fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Sep 6, 2016

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