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Like why would it bother you to watch stories that don't take place in the present? The big bads in Buffy are really just there to provide a platform for the main characters to learn things about themselves. I'm okay with that. The whole show is basically one big coming of age saga for the characters, and I think it works pretty well. Angel didn't work for me at all, and I gave up after 3 seasons. Forever Knight is a much better vampire detective show. That's probably not true, but I do love me some Forever Knight.
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Snak posted:Like why would it bother you to watch stories that don't take place in the present? It just bores the gently caress out of me at this point.
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Sep 5, 2016 22:52
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I just think that of all the possible legitimate criticisms you could make of Buffy the Vampire Slayer... "takes place in the past" is a truly bizarre one.
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Sep 5, 2016 22:58
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Regy Rusty posted:I just think that of all the possible legitimate criticisms you could make of Buffy the Vampire Slayer... "takes place in the past" is a truly bizarre one. It's not that, I said it's so loving dated that it makes it hard to enjoy at this point. Also kind of hard to appreciate at this point if you're not right in that age that the cast was playing.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:00
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Not a Sopranos season 1 fan, I take it.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:01
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Don't ever watch anything that wasn't made in the year you're currently in.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:01
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DrVenkman posted:Don't ever watch anything that wasn't made in the year you're currently in. Other than SciFi and Fantasy series I rarely do.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:02
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Like I can kind of get not liking period pieces, because they sometimes use the "exoticness" of the setting as a crutch. But were talking about a show that was set in the present when it came out. When I think "dated", I generally think of cultural references that are no longer relevant, or characters speculating incorrectly about the future. Sometimes looking dated can mean that styles of acting, directing, cinematography, etc have evolved and it will be noticeably different from more recent shows. Sometimes there are things in really old shows that seem strange because they don't reflect what was realistic for the time, but had to be done a certain way because of standards and practices. Like Lucy and Ricky having seperate beds.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:05
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Snak posted:Like I can kind of get not liking period pieces, because they sometimes use the "exoticness" of the setting as a crutch. But were talking about a show that was set in the present when it came out. Have you watched BTVS recently? Nobody talks or dresses like anyone on that show at this point and most of the music from the show is clearly a product of it's time. We're talking about poo poo that was close to 20 years ago.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:08
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Yeah, im watching it now. No poo poo people don't dress today like they did when the show came out. How does that impact the quality of the show? Like are the characters and stories not interesting because they dress differently than kids today?
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Sep 5, 2016 23:11
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Snak posted:Yeah, im watching it now. I honestly don't find it that interesting as I haven't been in high school for 19 years.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:12
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Snak posted:
I'd probably recommend then reading a Wikipedia summary of the craziness that was season 4 and trying the final season (5) it is a sort of reboot if you will, places everyone in a very different position than previously. Also season 5 has some of the strongest episodes on the show, including a submarine ep takes Angel back to the heady days of finding himself on a Nazi U-boat full of Vampires.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:21
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Snak posted:Angel didn't work for me at all, and I gave up after 3 seasons. Forever Knight is a much better vampire detective show. That's probably not true, but I do love me some Forever Knight. It's definitely my favourite vampire detective show. Third season wasn't so great, though. I did enjoy that when Geraint Wyn Davies showed up as the Immortal of the Week on an episode of Highlander, his character was married to a woman called Jeannette.
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UnquietDream posted:I'd probably recommend then reading a Wikipedia summary of the craziness that was season 4 and trying the final season (5) it is a sort of reboot if you will, places everyone in a very different position than previously. Also season 5 has some of the strongest episodes on the show, including a submarine ep takes Angel back to the heady days of finding himself on a Nazi U-boat full of Vampires. I agree that Angel was a more satisfying show than Buffy, due to the darker, more mature themes, the massive story arc of Seasons 2-4 (which had some bad parts, but was generally good), the absolute inspired greatness of Season 5, and the incredible character development that rescued some of the worst characters from Buffy and made them all amazing. Both shows had lousy first seasons but improved tremendously. Buffy's musical episode might be my favorite single episode of any TV series ever, but Angel Season 5 is probably my favorite single season of any show ever. And Wesley is definitely one of my favorite characters in any medium, any genre.
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's definitely my favourite vampire detective show. Third season wasn't so great, though. Yeah I haven't gotten around to watching the third season yet. It's hard to find motivation knowing that Schanke isn't in it.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:44
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Angel was a little bit too dark and explicit in its existentialism for my taste- I preferred Buffy's heroic journey.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Angel was a little bit too dark and explicit in its existentialism for my taste- I preferred Buffy's heroic journey. I liked Angel more specifically because of that. Angel's quote about how nothing is as it ought to be but that they fight for the world as it should be is one of the few highlights of the Jasmine season and the series as a whole. One of my close friends hated that Angel ended on a downer note (ignoring those loving terrible Season 8 comics) but I think it was one of the better series finales I've seen.
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Vanderdeath posted:I liked Angel more specifically because of that. Angel's quote about how nothing is as it ought to be but that they fight for the world as it should be is one of the few highlights of the Jasmine season and the series as a whole. One of my close friends hated that Angel ended on a downer note (ignoring those loving terrible Season 8 comics) but I think it was one of the better series finales I've seen. "We live as though the world is as it should be, to show it what it can be." I love that line. So superheroey. It's up there with "With great power comes great responsibility" and "May the Force be with you" for me.
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Rhyno posted:New viewers tend to be turned off by shows that feel dated. I can't sit through early Supernatural seasons because of the ancient tech they use. Haha what the gently caress
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Sep 6, 2016 01:10
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ugh al these loving noir detectives keep wearing hats and being in black and white and they dont have cell phones i guess i'll never watch the big sleep
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i wanted to like breaking bad but then i saw jesse play an xbox 360 and it totally ruined it for me
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and why the gently caress woud i watch casablnaca its got nazis in it we dont have anhy of those
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Brother Entropy posted:i wanted to like breaking bad but then i saw jesse play an xbox 360 and it totally ruined it for me Them completely loving up the time period the show was set in just so they could have product placement for a mediocre upcoming FPS was pretty funny, though.
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Sep 6, 2016 01:28
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Guy Mann posted:Them completely loving up the time period the show was set in just so they could have product placement for a mediocre upcoming FPS was pretty funny, though. i don't remember this, what game was it
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There's a definite window of time, like five-fifteen/twenty years where a lot of movies and shows that are set in the present are outdated but not outdated enough to be retro and it gets worse the more the show relies on the filmmaking style or ~high-tech gizmos~ of the time
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theflyingexecutive posted:There's a definite window of time, like five-fifteen/twenty years where a lot of movies and shows that are set in the present are outdated but not outdated enough to be retro and it gets worse the more the show relies on the filmmaking style or ~high-tech gizmos~ of the time Which is my biggest problem with Buffy, it relied too heavily on being topical and in the now.
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I saw a few minutes of Buffy back when it was airing on UPN. I saw a teen girl doing kung fu on dudes wearing lovely rubber masks. I think they were supposed to be the vampires? Looked loving terrible and I was like 12 years old. I watched WMAC Masters instead.
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Mu Zeta posted:I saw a few minutes of Buffy back when it was airing on UPN. I saw a teen girl doing kung fu on dudes wearing lovely rubber masks. I think they were supposed to be the vampires? Looked loving terrible and I was like 12 years old. I watched WMAC Masters instead. Sounds like you made a good decision.
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Sep 6, 2016 02:05
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The Roast of Rob Lowe is on in 35 minutes. I'm hoping it's a good one; it can't be any worse than the Seth Rogen-led circle jerk of James Franco.
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Brother Entropy posted:i don't remember this, what game was it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCNSF7lsoSY
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CBJSprague24 posted:The Roast of Rob Lowe is on in 35 minutes. I'm hoping it's a good one; it can't be any worse than the Seth Rogen-led circle jerk of James Franco. Ann Coulter is there and does not fare well
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theflyingexecutive posted:Ann Coulter is there and does not fare well Word has it she ate poo poo all night and completely bombed her set.
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Sep 6, 2016 02:54
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Read an article on the burns on Coulter and they're absolutely beautiful.
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Oh god, were those the hype men from the Roast Battle show? This being entertaining could hinge on their participation. If they're involved, I'm out.
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Sep 6, 2016 03:08
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The 80s-themed entrances are an awesome note to start off on.
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Sep 6, 2016 03:09
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Why is Peyton Manning here?
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CBJSprague24 posted:Why is Peyton Manning here? The same reason Ann Coulter's here. That was literally Lowe's strategy: he wanted a weird collection of people on the dais because it was funnier to him if he imagined people asking "What the gently caress is he/she doing here?"
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Sep 6, 2016 03:14
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Sep 6, 2016 03:24
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I do love all the close ups on Ann Coulter's face that's barely hiding how angry she is.
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bobjr posted:I do love all the close ups on Ann Coulter's face that's barely hiding how angry she is. "barely"
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