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munakata is an idealist, but the only ideal he adheres to is that he is right all the time and dissenters must die.
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I'm looking forward to playing as Punished Munakata in the Danganronpa fighting game
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Sep 5, 2016 21:24
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Narukami Rising: Revengance
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Sep 5, 2016 21:30
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This episode was hilarious
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Sep 5, 2016 21:35
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Also this Butt Ghost posted:Burn it all to the ground
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Sep 5, 2016 21:35
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Butt Ghost posted:Narukami Rising: Revengance That's V3, we're currently in the "MGS4" stage where the break-dancing robot fights a mooing AT-ST. video games are weird
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Sep 5, 2016 21:36
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The confusing thing to me is why Chisa would have an NG code if she was doomed to die from the start just to get the game going.
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Sep 5, 2016 22:20
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Slur posted:The confusing thing to me is why Chisa would have an NG code if she was doomed to die from the start just to get the game going. Maybe the attacker chose at random? 
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Sep 5, 2016 22:33
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Slur posted:The confusing thing to me is why Chisa would have an NG code if she was doomed to die from the start just to get the game going. We don't know if she was only there to die first, we don't know how this game was planned. Maybe the only people who the attacker wants to survive for a long time is Naegi and Kirigiri and all the others are just chosen at random.
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Sep 5, 2016 22:34
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Slur posted:The confusing thing to me is why Chisa would have an NG code if she was doomed to die from the start just to get the game going. I'm thinking that she's going to turn out to be the mastermind. I don't think they revealed what Chisa and Gozu's codes were simply to satisfy our curiosity. I'm betting Munakata will eventually realize the mastermind has been playing him like a drat fiddle. Once he realizes that he's become the despair, he'll get his redemptive moment by killing himself to bring about a world of hope and take out the last remaining despair by activating her NG Code. It seems like the most ironic and poetic end for him to take the same option he recommended to Makoto. Episode 9 of the Despair arc is going to be a big one. Izuru and Chiaki have finally met, and Chisa is on her way to save the day. What's going to happen? If my gut is right and this part of the series is meant to be the peak of despair, then I think this will be the point where Chiaki "dies". Whether or not it's going to stick will be another thing entirely. It's possible that they're going to spring the twist on us in Future Episode 10: not only did Kyoko survive, but Chiaki did too! Hope is back. Though another big question is going to be what happens to Chisa and Mitarai. The next despair episode could contain a big hint as to which one is the mastermind in the Future arc, depending on if either of them get corrupted by Junko. Ryota seems to be in the clear, but will Junko catch up to him?
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Sep 5, 2016 22:58
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I don't think Munataka dying fits with what his character themes have been I mean his whole stupid problem was he didn't think Class 77 deserved to live. And while he's operating on a smaller scale, he's done poo poo now that's pretty nasty himself. If Naegi can't get him to calm the hell down and put his fancy Persona-looking brain to work for something positive, then what kind of SHSL Hope is he? The ending amounting to "We managed to avoid dying! Again!" would be pretty lame at this point. And if he kills himself because he realizes he's become despair, he's basically a far less amusing Komaeda at that point.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:05
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The fact that Ruruka had many candies in her mouth makes me think that the attacker changes each time and is brainwashed to kill but she had her candies so she ate a lot of then and started to hurt herself with the knife to fight against the brainwashing and then she killed herself when she realized she couldn't and that's why her body is messed up and not in a high place like all the other ones because there was no one in the room besides her to do that. And also the door was blocked by rocks so unless there's a secret passage or she took then out again I don't think the attacker entered the room
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Sep 5, 2016 23:14
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I hope Kirigiri is dead
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Sep 5, 2016 23:18
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Did Munakata decide that everyone had to die the moment the killing game began or what. He's cray regardless but I think something the old man told him made it worse. We won't find out what he said until the last 10 seconds of the epilogue, won't we. E: also why were they(the camera) intentionally dodging Kirigiri's bare hand. Are we not allowed to see scars? That scene made a big deal out of it in a roundabout way.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:19
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actually nanami is in fact the unseen 13th branch leader of the future foundation hope this helps
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Sep 5, 2016 23:25
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I hope Munakata cuts Kirigiri's corpse in half to super kill her.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:27
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Blade mode her to super death. Render every piece of Kirigiri's comically cubed body in the Havok Engine so they all have their own physics. WE'RE FALLEN DOWN, BLACKENED BY DARK SKIES
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Sep 5, 2016 23:32
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Then a giant Monokuma Gear crashes into Hope's Peak Academy and Togami is there and he pulls out his katanas and says "I was the one who killed your parents, Munakata" and they have an epic swordfight. Except instead of katanas it's the scissor blades from Kill La Kill, but they're still named Republican and Democrat.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:38
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And then Chiaki shows up and she and Hajime passionately kiss, and Soda Pop is like "eyyy yea boiiiii that's the good poo poo" as they're all erecting a great bronze statue of Nagito Komaeda, the true hero of the series. I feel like I lost my point here, but I also think I like where I reached better than what I was originally trying to say.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:41
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Sep 5, 2016 23:46
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It's nice the crazy theories are back from the old DR thread days but did we really have to bring back bad posts also. Also Metal Gear Rising was a bad game.Mindblast posted:E: also why were they(the camera) intentionally dodging Kirigiri's bare hand. Are we not allowed to see scars? That scene made a big deal out of it in a roundabout way. I think that's just for consistency. They do that in DR1 as well. It could be relevant but I took it as they want us to keep using our imagination because reality won't measure up.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:47
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alcharagia posted:Whatever this is 
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actually yeah that was a bit much my b
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Sep 5, 2016 23:49
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Also Revengeance is actually a great game (even if it's not my favorite Platinum game) and anyone saying otherwise is wrong
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Sep 5, 2016 23:49
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IceBorg posted:Despair is actually a character name and everytime Junko and co. were talking about Despair they were talking about that person and not despair itself. It will turn out that Despair was a silent character viewing everything from the same POV as the audience, like in a particular game that came out a few months ago. Wyvernil posted:
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Sep 5, 2016 23:54
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IceBorg posted:The fact that Ruruka had many candies in her mouth makes me think that the attacker changes each time and is brainwashed to kill but she had her candies so she ate a lot of then and started to hurt herself with the knife to fight against the brainwashing and then she killed herself when she realized she couldn't and that's why her body is messed up and not in a high place like all the other ones because there was no one in the room besides her to do that. I think you might be on to something. In the scene showing Ruruka's body, the camera makes a point to show the flickering monitor in the room. What if whenever the rotating attacker wakes up the monitor plays some sort of brainwashing tape, probably based on the idea of Mitarai's brainwashing anime abilities again, to coerce that person into being the attacker? Since Ruruka couldn't get herself out of the room, she had to kill herself to satisfy the attacker's duty. The only question is how, if the attacker rotates, do they always have that knife. Unless it's something silly like "it comes out of a wall compartment" or "Monokuma waltzes up and hands it to them". edit: actually, a second question. If it is a brainwashing tape, who made it? Signs would point to Mitarai in that case unless Junko AI 2 is hanging out here in the building.
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Sep 6, 2016 00:53
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alcharagia posted:I hope Kirigiri is dead this but ironically
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Mindblast posted:E: also why were they(the camera) intentionally dodging Kirigiri's bare hand. Are we not allowed to see scars? That scene made a big deal out of it in a roundabout way. They didn't show her scars in DR1 either.
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Sep 6, 2016 01:19
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"You'll pay for making me kill him, Despair" is the most Danganronpa quote that has ever existed or ever will exist, goddamn. 
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Sep 6, 2016 01:22
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There is like an axe in her body, how would she do that to herself or is that a knife i can't tell
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quote:I think you might be on to something. Yeah, the flickering monitor definitely leads me to believe the Attacker is someone forced to do it and forget. I'd been thinking all along the point of the rules not favoring the attacker meant the game was designed for them to get caught, but now it seems like the opposite: the game is designed to only allow for 1 survivor. Beyond that, Rurukas ultra violent death doesn't make sense if the attacker is a knowing participant in the game, since Ruruka was being deliberately goaded into killing (she was provided with an explicit motive in the exit door after all). Why would you be driven to commit revenge over something you knowingly set up? Though that also means that there's no Win condition for Naegi and the gang right now as far as the game is concerned (it also means the entire premise of the game is a lie, though that's no surprise.). Still very unclear WHY everything is happening. But I suspect Despair this week might offer some answers.
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Sep 6, 2016 01:46
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MattTheDoctor posted:Also Metal Gear Rising was a bad game. what the gently caress
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Sep 6, 2016 02:07
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Are we allowed to post spoilers yet? The episode's up for a while now. Anyway, called Boxer dying as soon as the episode started. Not sure why he had to die yet, my prevailing theory in my mind is that he's the reason Chisa died. And Kirigiri was pretty much waving a death flag as soon as she and Naegi started talking. She's pretty much alive I reckon, the bottle people have spotted lends credence to that. Makes sense from a meta point of view since I'm not sure Spike would kill off one of their fan favourites
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Sep 6, 2016 02:20
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Juzo did nothing wrong. Like seriously. Munakata is literally Miko from Order of the Stick. I pray that it's revealed that he's being trolled or something because I really can't take him seriously.
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Sep 6, 2016 02:49
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Juzo did, like, everything wrong. But he is outwronged by Munakata by a long shot.
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I highly doubt this is actually the case and it is much more likely to be someone else but: Mitarai is the mastermind, and there is no attacker- it really is Anime Brainwash Bullshit on the monitors, which he controls using his phone to make the victims kill themselves, with some resistance on their part. Mitarai's genuine regret at helping Junko and unquenchable desire to be THE person who makes everything better, despite being too weak and reserved to do so, has morphed into intense jealousy of Naegi himself, making the motivation both Hope and Despair in some hack writing way. He wants to use this killing game as part of a new brainwashing anime, one that makes people see him as the world's hope, supplanting Naegi. His plan was to wait for Naegi to be killed during waking hours and then pin everything on someone- not expecting the game to go on anywhere near as long as it did. He is trying to make himself the protagonist of essentially a real life anime with Kirigiri as his heroine/love interest but it's not working because he is a dweeb.Tengan worked out what Mitarai was up to, and the blood message was an attempt to satisfy Mitarai and get him to call off the game by satisfying Mitarai's ego as head Hope dude. His choice of victims are either to encourage people to kill Naegi or removing those who he knows will not do the deed (Gozu being very explicitly admant about not falling into despair, Seiko being too pure for this world). As of this episode Kirigiri has her suspicions but can't really voice them- she's playing dead to see how Mitarai reacts to her 'death' as he created that NG code with the idea of Naegi dying well before then. Obsessed with Kirigiri, He drops the usual poetic murder method and makes Ruruka mutilate herself as vengence for trying to kill Kirigiri and ruin his narrative. Juzo did nothing wrong.
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I like how it looks like it was common knowlegde that Miaya had a robot double because while Munakata is on despair drugs so I don't think he would react but when he destroyed the robot body and Juzu appeared he reacted like it was nothing. I thought it was Monaca that built that but it looks like she just stole it from the real one. It's also weird that Monaca said she just joined the game by chance to see Naegi but the robot body has all the NG actions and unless Monaca was involved in the plan of that I think my theory that the real Miaya was involved in the project that Tengan talked about(making a new Ultimate Hope) and has something to do with the game is growing. At least Miaya was a accomplice who was going to observe the game from outside but Monaca killed her and took her robot body over and with it all the NG actions information and also why she knew someone related to Naegi would die.
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Sep 6, 2016 04:09
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Mitarai is just way too much of a.... dweeb to be the mastermind though, you know??
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Sep 6, 2016 04:12
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Also could I get a side story explaining whatever the gently caress Sonosuke saw in Ruruka, please?
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Kodaka fleeing from twitter before the episode aired is still making me laugh.
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