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Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
We are t-minus 9 weeks away from election day.

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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
What to think about this.... A good first step I suppose.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/04/revolution-against-rich-parasites-at-utopian-burning-man-festiva/

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Luckyellow posted:

hold on, y'all are missing an important point with watch talk.

Why the gently caress are you guys wearing watches in the shower in the first place?

You mean you don't? :confused:

Count me as a happy 200 meter water resistant watch owner.



It's got radioactive tritium tubes so it's actually useful in the dark! :shepface:

ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Sep 6, 2016

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

If both sides of this conflict could destroy each other that would be swell.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Petr posted:

Why are you being so reflexively anti-automated cars

I'm not? Most of my recent posts was about how automated cars would be a net neutral to the job market.

Petr
Oct 3, 2000

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

We are t-minus 9 weeks away from election day.

Pivot tomorrow, trump bump narrative starts a week from now, wikileaks bombshell in four weeks, Trump overtakes Clinton in the popular vote in five weeks, ekes out electoral college superiority 8.5 weeks from now, and wins the presidency two days before being convicted of rape and fraud.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Solkanar512 posted:

Build a bridge and get over it.

The owner shits all over Boeing for battery issues before dealing with the same loving thing himself, subjects the rest of us to alpha testing of his "auto pilot" system by his stupid customers and pretends that putting his desk at the end of a manufacturing line is going to turn his boutique manufacturing company into the next loving Toyota.

Also, the development of the Porsche 918, Ferrari LaFerrari and McLaren P1 have nothing to do with Tesla and everything to do with EU car fleet standards.

Do you think fleet standards would be where they are today without a significant EV-only manufacturer as a proof of concept? If Euro fleet standards are the driving force for EVs why are the Nissan Leaf and Tesla models the leaders in sales? If Tesla is a boutique then why do you care what their customers are testing?

berserker
Aug 17, 2003

My love for you
is ticking clock

Petr posted:

Pivot tomorrow, trump bump narrative starts a week from now, wikileaks bombshell in four weeks, Trump overtakes Clinton in the popular vote in five weeks, ekes out electoral college superiority 8.5 weeks from now, and wins the presidency two days before being convicted of rape and fraud.

This is incredible. Poetry. Scary as gently caress

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
The death of a conservative icon is a good and commendable thing.

Electric cars are good but still rely on outsourcing pollution to China, which is neither an optimal nor a long term solution.

Self driving cars are an awesome idea but "car culture" and the human inability to understand risk will make it a long road for anything other than a novelty outside of specific applications like long haul trucking. However, the human inability to understand risk will mean that the first big self-driving truck accident will result in state regulations that basically make their existence financially impossible. Think Three Mile Island. The anti-technology wing of white voters (Union "Reagan" Democrats and neo-luddite Greens) as well as powerful groups like Teamsters will help push this legislation.

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
we can all agree Uber is probably hosed, because at this point their business model seems to rely on self-driving cars being viable within five years. :laugh:

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


DemeaninDemon posted:

"What kind of handshake is that you pansy?"

"Oh, they are kind of small"

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

zimboe posted:

Horses do produce emissions- horseshit and lots of it.
I saw some pictures of New York in the 1800's and the horseshit was curb-deep in the streets before they they invented sanitation.

At least cars don't crap everywhere.

cars totally do crap everywhere except instead of contributing to the filth in local gutters they contribute to the overal modification of global climate

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Petr posted:

Pivot tomorrow, trump bump narrative starts a week from now, wikileaks bombshell in four weeks, Trump overtakes Clinton in the popular vote in five weeks, ekes out electoral college superiority 8.5 weeks from now, and wins the presidency two days before being convicted of rape and fraud.
Post yo map

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

We are t-minus 9 weeks away from election day.

Doesn't it kind of feel like nobody's paying attention anymore?

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


woke wedding drone posted:

Doesn't it kind of feel like nobody's paying attention anymore?

The US really needs to shorten election cycles like a lot of the other Big Democratic Nations do. I love following this poo poo and even I am starting to get burnt out by this cycle. Mostly due to the realization that I've been following it since late 2014.

Bar Ran Dun
Jan 22, 2006




I'm sorry I can't help myself that poo poo in the shower ain't steam, it's vapor. If your water resistant watch can't handle it, your watch is a knock off piece of poo poo. And don't wear a watch in the shower... gross.

Tiny Brontosaurus
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

KiteAuraan posted:

The US really needs to shorten election cycles like a lot of the other Big Democratic Nations do. I love following this poo poo and even I am starting to get burnt out by this cycle. Mostly due to the realization that I've been following it since late 2014.

I'd love that, but could it be done? Election season begins whenever somebody hints they're going to run.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

BrandorKP posted:

I'm sorry I can't help myself that poo poo in the shower ain't steam, it's vapor. If your water resistant watch can't handle it, your watch is a knock off piece of poo poo. And don't wear a watch in the shower... gross.

When you are sitting around for a schvitz, there is only one way to tell the power of a man: his watch.

When you are getting a rub-and-tug, there is only one way to ensure better service: a watch.

A watch is an easy form of conspicuous consumption. There is a whole secret language of wealth to them.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

BrandorKP posted:

I'm sorry I can't help myself that poo poo in the shower ain't steam, it's vapor. If your water resistant watch can't handle it, your watch is a knock off piece of poo poo. And don't wear a watch in the shower... gross.

i remember when i was real young i had a watch i wore all the time, and when the battery finally died so i had to take it off, i saw what my skin looked like and well, it's been like 15 to 20 years and i've never worn a watch since

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
i mean, for the last decade i haven't needed a watch since i have a cellphone, but there was at least a 5 year period where not wearing a watch was moderately an inconvenience

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

KiteAuraan posted:

The US really needs to shorten election cycles like a lot of the other Big Democratic Nations do. I love following this poo poo and even I am starting to get burnt out by this cycle. Mostly due to the realization that I've been following it since late 2014.

I think this year, more than others, the increased politicization has meant that as soon as the primaries were done, people were decided.

On top of that, I don't think anyone is really able to pretend too well that Trump is not too far from Clinton. The stakes are too high, the demographics are worse, and Trump has been an awful candidate now that he's in the general.

Like it's possible, but really unlikely.

But yeah, the election is too long. But we'd have to really move to a non-preset election like the UK used to have to put that genie back in its bottle. The media drove the primary process out so far, and they have no reason to pull back.

Distorted Kiwi
Jun 11, 2014

"C'mon! Let's tune our weapons!"

KiteAuraan posted:

The US really needs to shorten election cycles like a lot of the other Big Democratic Nations do. I love following this poo poo and even I am starting to get burnt out by this cycle. Mostly due to the realization that I've been following it since late 2014.

Speaking as someone from a country with a 30-day campaign period, yes you do.

Hell, our rules state that not only can you not campaign on election day, you have to have removed all of your billboards the previous night. Plus the election monitors of all parties are banned from talking to people coming in to cast their votes.

None of which affects me, as I've always strolled in and voted a couple of weeks early. For no other reason except convenience.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

ComradeCosmobot posted:

You mean you don't? :confused:

Count me as a happy 200 meter water resistant watch owner.



It's got radioactive tritium tubes so it's actually useful in the dark! :shepface:

That watch is not also a dive computer so it's pretty worthless

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

QuarkJets posted:

That watch is not also a dive computer so it's pretty worthless

Suunto is a watch brand I would trust my life with

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Eifert Posting posted:

Do you think fleet standards would be where they are today without a significant EV-only manufacturer as a proof of concept?
Just a reminder that before the Tesla's, the most popular electric vehicle had been (I think) the Lease only EV1 that was eventually recalled and the complete line was scrapped because the battery technology wasn't quite there yet.

Before Tesla everyone thought it would be ok to have 20 years of Prius-like hybrids as stopgaps before a good electric car could be made and be widely adopted.

Not to say that Tesla Motors doesn't have problems with their builds, but they could have gone the way of Fisker auto. Instead they made EV ownership a cool status symbol thing and built a decent brand. And I think that was one of the biggest hurdles for EVs in the U.S.

McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

fool_of_sound posted:

Because their real objection to Obama wasn't his inexperience...

Totally. rear end in a top hat racists kept using the inexperience argument in the general to support their swap from Clinton to McCain. But that doesn't mean the rest of us were arguing in bad faith during the primary or that we stopped believing Obama was green when we voted for him the first time ( he'd wised up a lot by 2012 ). There just wasn't any point in talking about it then as what was done was done. Whinging might suppress voter turnout so focusing on the positives was the thing to do.

I mean -- we are Hillary supporters. Working within the system to make incremental changes, not letting best be the enemy of good, and accepting that which we can't currently change while focusing on what we can change is kind of our thing. It is a set of values we apply to our personal lives and that we are excited to see in a politician on our team.

Ghetto Prince
Sep 11, 2010

got to be mellow, y'all

Distorted Kiwi posted:

Speaking as someone from a country with a 30-day campaign period, yes you do.

Hell, our rules state that not only can you not campaign on election day, you have to have removed all of your billboards the previous night. Plus the election monitors of all parties are banned from talking to people coming in to cast their votes.

None of which affects me, as I've always strolled in and voted a couple of weeks early. For no other reason except convenience.

Ok, you made your loving point, you don't have to rub our faces in it.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 205 days!

KiteAuraan posted:

The US really needs to shorten election cycles like a lot of the other Big Democratic Nations do. I love following this poo poo and even I am starting to get burnt out by this cycle. Mostly due to the realization that I've been following it since late 2014.

Our last election up here in Canukistan was controversial because it was the longest in our history.

It took place, in it's entirety, within about the first third or so of the Republican primary.

e: it also covered the equivalent of your midterm elections for a good six years.

e2: It's worth noting that your entire system was designed with the assumption that everyone who voted would essentially be the equivalent of an English lord, except with slaves instead of a peerage. At the time, "leisure" was still considered a good thing that allowed the "right people" to have lots of time to dedicate to politics.

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 09:30 on Sep 6, 2016

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Hodgepodge posted:

Our last election up here in Canukistan was controversial because it was the longest in our history.

It took place, in it's entirety, within about the first third or so of the Republican primary.

My Canadian friend had his first experience with politics with that one, he was super excited for Trudeau because he hated the Harper government, and was convinced everything was going to be fine and dandy now and that he could just peace out once it was over.

I was like oh dude, you get to experience what it was like to elect Obama! :negative:

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 205 days!

Lightning Knight posted:

My Canadian friend had his first experience with politics with that one, he was super excited for Trudeau because he hated the Harper government, and was convinced everything was going to be fine and dandy now and that he could just peace out once it was over.

I was like oh dude, you get to experience what it was like to elect Obama! :negative:

On the upside, you now get to elect someone who shared your hatred of the right, instead of a nice young centrist who is mostly good in that he's a return to our pre-9/11 status-quo.

e: also literally a dynast, since he's the son of a previous Prime Minister.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Hodgepodge posted:

On the upside, you now get to elect someone who shared your hatred of the right, instead of a nice young centrist who is mostly good in that he's a return to our pre-9/11 status-quo.

e: also literally a dynast, since he's the son of a previous Prime Minister.

Yeah but the pre-9/11 status quo for Canada is probably a fair sight better than ours, for whatever that's worth.

Hillary is also a dynasty representative. The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
how did we get from self driving cars safety standards to watches? :psyduck:

oh, fishmech. :nallears:

well in that case, i like bracelet watches because they're cute and they serve no function at all because my phone tells me the time

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

We are t-minus 9 weeks away from election day.

im more interested in the debate in 3 weeks

ParliamentOfDogs
Jan 29, 2009

My genre's thriller... What's yours?
One day I was hanging out on the boardwalk in Atlantic City and I didn't have my phone or a watch so I asked some old lady for the time and she ignored me and walked over to a police officer who came over and asked me what I was doing and told me to leave. That is my watch story.


I didn't connect the dots at the time but it is possible Trump was at one of his casinos at the time or knew the lady or maybe the cop worked for him.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Lastgirl posted:

im more interested in the debate in 3 weeks

I'm curious how hard the media will try to spin it as a match between equals if Trump fails to swallow his own microphone.

ParliamentOfDogs
Jan 29, 2009

My genre's thriller... What's yours?
I think it will be interesting to see him back in front of crowds that don't a hoot and a holler at everything he says. I think he will spend at least 3 minutes of his total time per debate mugging to complete silence.

Also apparently a GOP candidate for a councilman position around where I used to live is wishing rape via Syrian refugee upon Olivia Nuzzi. Wonderful.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/S-Jersey-GOP-candidate-blames-hack-for-rape-comments.html

ParliamentOfDogs fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Sep 6, 2016

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!

Eifert Posting posted:

Yup. It really is LF: the watch. Love it.

Surely LF: the watch would be the Casio F-91W.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Polls are all over the place today - CNN has Trump +2 over LV, Clinton +3 over RV. NBC has Clinton +6 RV.

E: This poll tho:

"Is more honest and trustworthy" applies more to:
Clinton 35%
Trump 50%
(CNN/ORC Poll, RV, 9/1-4)

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Sep 6, 2016

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Let me guess, this is a bad poll as well?

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/773101065332002816

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



That's the Lv poll mentioned one post earlier. CNN's rv has Clinton up 3. Which means that CNN is either oversampling white men or under sampling minorities in what they consider likely voters. I guess we'll see if they are right.

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