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those graphs are part of full meta reports you can find on the front page of overbuff. there isn't a new one yet since the patch isn't even a week old but I'm sure one will be coming soon
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I just had a comp match on Anubis where it was only for the first point. Is that normal? That seems kinda weird, I don't know why it would only do half the map.
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Sep 6, 2016 04:18
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Grapplejack posted:I just had a comp match on Anubis where it was only for the first point. Is that normal? That seems kinda weird, I don't know why it would only do half the map. If the first attacking team never caps the first point, then the second attacking team only has to cap first to make it a 1-0 win. Unless you're saying that the first team only had to cap first, which would just be weird and probably a bug.
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Sep 6, 2016 04:36
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Gimnbo posted:If the first attacking team never caps the first point, then the second attacking team only has to cap first to make it a 1-0 win. Yeah, both teams only capped the first point. It was really weird, no one knew what was happening.
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Sep 6, 2016 04:50
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so it just ended after capping the first point? no time extension? I remember in season 1, if you ran out of time in overtime after capping the first point, the round would end because you don't get an extension in timebank once you've used everything in your bank. tho that wouldn't happen in your first round
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Sep 6, 2016 04:58
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Grapplejack posted:Yeah, both teams only capped the first point. It was really weird, no one knew what was happening. Did you run out of time and draw?
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Sep 6, 2016 05:04
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ImPureAwesome posted:Did you run out of time and draw? No, we capped faster than they did and we won.
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Sep 6, 2016 05:17
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Are you sure they actually capped the first point? Because it seems a lot more likely that, say, they killed most of your team but didn't actually get the point in overtime, and then your team capped the first point for the win. Stopwatch wins literally do not exist in this game.
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Sep 6, 2016 13:39
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Night Blade posted:+ Coin flip is gone 1: I've only managed to play Eichenwald once, on attack, but yeah. That choke point as your approach the castle doors with the payload is ridiculous. Between a Zen/Torb playing the back field by the gate, a Mei/Zarya playing the mid-to-close range defense and Pharah playing mid-long with a Tracer coming behind us to pick off healers, we couldn't move more than 10 or so meters without getting absolutely pummeled. This was solo QP as well so I'm sure that had a lot to do with it. 2: gently caress Mei. 3: gently caress Mei, I agree. 4: I absolutely agree. Coupled with a big "gently caress mei" in there from my Comp placement match last night where we went 2/0 in the first two rounds but then one of their guys switched to Mei and my solo-comp twat teammates, who couldn't be bothered to come into team voice from their 2 and 3 man group voice channels, completely balked every time she appeared on screen until we ultimately lost, 2/3. gently caress Mei.
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Sep 6, 2016 13:41
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Jabor posted:Are you sure they actually capped the first point? Because it seems a lot more likely that, say, they killed most of your team but didn't actually get the point in overtime, and then your team capped the first point for the win. It's possible that's what happened and I just missed it. It was a super hectic fight at the end.
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Sep 6, 2016 13:41
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Trast posted:Awhile back I saw a graph showing what characters are being played with which frequency in competitive play. Is there an updated one? new one just came up! https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2016-09-06-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-season-2-meta-boogaloo
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Sep 6, 2016 14:43
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No S Tier?! Notmymeta
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Sep 6, 2016 14:45
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Kerrrrrrr posted:new one just came up! drat I need to get good at McCree
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Sep 6, 2016 14:51
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drat 3x3 sounds fun
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Sep 6, 2016 14:52
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Kerrrrrrr posted:new one just came up! I was thinking Ana could use a buff but the 3X3 nips that in the bud. Still I'd like her heal to be able to travel through targets so the full-health Roadhog doesn't block my clutch heal to the Reaper/Tracer in front of him.
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reading that, I think he's absolutely right about pharah only having a brief resurgence. yea, discord got nerfed, but it's still a huge deal for pharah. mccree shuts her down too hard at that level (hell, soldier and hanzo have made some inroads as well, which hurts pharah even more) and I just can't imagine teams sticking with her for much longer. she might show up on occasion to punish a team that doesn't have a mccree I guess wonder if they'll change something for her or the heroes that are still languishing at the very bottom, like poor old symmetra
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Sep 6, 2016 15:04
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They've got a handful of heroes who straddle the divide between healer and damage (S76, lucio, ana, zenyatta) but nothing that crosses over between healer and tank. I kind of wonder if they are trying to work that blend out or if they look at it and decide it's impossible to balance the necessary vulnerability of a healer against the necessary resilience of a tank.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:11
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LCL-Dead posted:1: I've only managed to play Eichenwald once, on attack, but yeah. That choke point as your approach the castle doors with the payload is ridiculous. Between a Zen/Torb playing the back field by the gate, a Mei/Zarya playing the mid-to-close range defense and Pharah playing mid-long with a Tracer coming behind us to pick off healers, we couldn't move more than 10 or so meters without getting absolutely pummeled. This was solo QP as well so I'm sure that had a lot to do with it. That's actually the most offense friendly part of the map, there are multiple flanks on both sides that are accessible to all characters. You can go outside the castle ruins on the far right or through the castle ruins (both of which let you either flank completely behind or claim the high ground above the bridge) or you can go around on the left of the bridge and come out in a couple different spots. The really bad chokes on that map are the first point (where only a few characters have flanking routes) and once the payload is inside the castle.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:24
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Kerrrrrrr posted:new one just came up! I hope this list convinces people not every team needs hanzo and junkrat.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:29
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Kashuno posted:I hope this list convinces people not every team needs hanzo and junkrat. That list is released every week. It didn't convince anyone before. If anything they will notice hanjo got a usage buff.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:34
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Wonder if seeing Symmetra not get pick at all for Competitive will get her changed. I play her in quick play a lot, and she fun when things are working right, but she still a niche character. And after a certain point she can't get any turrets up anymore as they die too quickly. Shame, since her mouse 1 laser it catches them off guard will generally wipe the non-tanks in seconds.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:36
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FAUXTON posted:They've got a handful of heroes who straddle the divide between healer and damage (S76, lucio, ana, zenyatta) but nothing that crosses over between healer and tank. I kind of wonder if they are trying to work that blend out or if they look at it and decide it's impossible to balance the necessary vulnerability of a healer against the necessary resilience of a tank. Technically tanks count as a healer type by preventing/mitigating damage in the first place, and damage prevented is superior to damage healed. Roadhog really doesn't factor into being a true tank, he's DPS and intended to get the picks to swing a fight into a teamkill, which is why he has such a large HP pool and self-sustain.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:42
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Rirse posted:Wonder if seeing Symmetra not get pick at all for Competitive will get her changed. I play her in quick play a lot, and she fun when things are working right, but she still a niche character. And after a certain point she can't get any turrets up anymore as they die too quickly. Shame, since her mouse 1 laser it catches them off guard will generally wipe the non-tanks in seconds. Hopefully a niche is found for her but it might require a substantial character rework first (maybe a new E).
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Sep 6, 2016 15:44
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Manatee Cannon posted:reading that, I think he's absolutely right about pharah only having a brief resurgence. yea, discord got nerfed, but it's still a huge deal for pharah. mccree shuts her down too hard at that level (hell, soldier and hanzo have made some inroads as well, which hurts pharah even more) and I just can't imagine teams sticking with her for much longer. she might show up on occasion to punish a team that doesn't have a mccree I guess Her core ability simply leaves her too vulnerable. A floating, slow moving, above cover, character is a dead character. Even grounded her ultimate leaves her as a giant stationary target. She's still fun and I like the character design, plus years of playing Quake means I can direct rocket hit all day long, and her missile that bounces people around is great. But the fact remains that two of her abilities are going to get her killed.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:44
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How much would symmetra's shield need to be to be worth
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Sep 6, 2016 15:46
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Kashuno posted:How much would symmetra's shield need to be to be worth Her entire shield ability was garbage from the start. +25 hp isn't much but +50 is too much when it'd added to the likes of Tracer and Genji. But apart from the issues balancing it, the ability's biggest sin is that it's boring. There's no skill involved, no clutch timing you can pull off. It's just whack-a-mole where you press E at your team at the start and then press E some more whenever someone dies. Honestly at this point I think the only way to properly improve Symmetra would be to completely rework her abilities that aren't M1 and M2.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:55
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Make it 200HP that decays over x seconds with a cooldown imo
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Sep 6, 2016 15:57
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As I do progressively worse my allies get progressively more Korean. Voice channel is full of people yammering in Korean and I can't understand any of them 
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Sep 6, 2016 16:04
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Kerrrrrrr posted:new one just came up! Wow!!! Genji is still perfectly fine!!! Tuxedo Catfish posted:the vigor with which people call out bad, uninformed opinions was one of the things that convinced me to shell out :tenbux: for SA in the first place, so yes, hopefully Whoa!!!
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Sep 6, 2016 16:27
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gg ez
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Sep 6, 2016 16:32
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Kashuno posted:Make it 200HP that decays over x seconds with a cooldown imo Maybe they should make it more of a barrier that just eats 200 hp worth of damage that wears off after like 2 seconds. Also it should power up your gun.
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Sep 6, 2016 16:38
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Kashuno posted:Make it 200HP that decays over x seconds with a cooldown imo Her niche could be the only healer that can TF2-style overheal in shields. But Blizzard is more interested in reiterating Mcree for the umpteenth time.
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Sep 6, 2016 16:42
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Every time I get a POTG as Mei my team and the enemy team shits on me in the all chat. Yeah I missed half my icicles but I also killed four of you ... so.
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Sep 6, 2016 16:56
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Something simple I'd like to see with Symmetra is to remove the insane slowdown she gets as she places a turret. I don't know why it's there, would she be so broken if she moved at normal speed while placing them?
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Sep 6, 2016 17:03
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take away Symettra's ult and give her a cooldown ability that teleports a teamate to her position like reverse mercy then her ult can spawn a walking eye like a big version of her turrets with legs
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Sep 6, 2016 17:12
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JackDarko posted:Every time I get a POTG as Mei my team and the enemy team shits on me in the all chat. Yeah I missed half my icicles but I also killed four of you ... so. The character is fairly hated. She's just not fun to play against. Win or lose doesn't matter, the Mei being good or bad doesn't matter, the freeze mechanic and ult are just obnoxious as all hell and make moments of the match incredibly un fun. Watching a Mei POTG is just rubbing salt in the wound that even if you won, the game wasn't all that fun.
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Sep 6, 2016 17:14
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As time progresses I feel as if I'm the only person who doesn't hate Mei. I like playing as her and I don't mind playing against her. The only heroes I hate playing against are McCree and Reaper. McCree's gun is a better sniper rifle than the sniper character and Reaper's ult makes me irate. It doesn't seem to matter what I'm doing or who I am or how I react it always kills me.
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Sep 6, 2016 17:27
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Brannock posted:Whoa!!! That statement predated them rolling back the projectile nerf, which, while also an incredibly stupid decision, significantly softened the Genji nerf by making his shurikens more effective.
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Sep 6, 2016 17:33
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i cant help but laugh when im rein, get stupidly frozen by Mei (it's always my own fault) and then survive the 4 headshots she tries while im immobile. even in comp, when i guess i should be seething, it cracks me up
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One of the funniest things to do to a Mei that has frozen a target is to start jumping around between her and her target's head while attacking her.
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