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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I once paid an ex for sex. I was seeing her at the time and It was only 20p but still...

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Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org
Not a bad deal tbh.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Yeah, I mean I paid her 60p and it was "fine, I guess."

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

SCA Enthusiast posted:


Of course there are exceptions but generally I think the Swedish model of decriminalizing being a prostitute but criminalizing patronizing prostitutes is a good one.

No it's not. It's terrible. Anything that isnt straight out legalisation is terrible. No one should be arrested for paying for sex, no one should be ostracised for sex. I strongly object to the Swedish model as it is proven to be not as good or as safe as a properly legalised and regulated sex industry.

The simple fact is that where prositiution is legal, sex trafficing is drat near zero, lower than Sweden can hope for. Women are safer and control the transaction. It is a good deal healtier as STD's are much less likely to be passed on, the brotels are better able to enforce safe sex. Workers are able to pay tax and are much less likely to be controlled by pimps. No one is clogging jails or courts for prostitution, police can go deal with real crimes. There is much lower levels of organised crime and the associated problems. There is simply no real downside to a legalised and regulated sex industry. Instances of rape and assaults are much lower too.

Legalise and regulate is ALWAYS the answer, exactly like Portugal proved with any and all drugs and any country that legalised and regulated prositution, like NSW.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Cage posted:

I wouldnt want to engage in that type of stuff in the US since aveneues are so sketchy, but when I was in Toronto a few months ago I exercised their lack of criminalization. Went to a website, picked a girl, called a number and made an appointment. Went to a rather nice hotel in downtown Toronto and had some fun.

I also texted some guy on craigslist that was selling weed delivery services but I was kind of in a hurry and couldnt wait up. Canada is great.

I don't know if this is more red-title worthy or cringe-inducing.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

West SAAB Story posted:

It's not a house- only a garage with :siren: stairs to the "man cave" :siren:, and the sink doesn't work. If it makes it below six figures, I'd consider it, despite being inhabitable 4-6 months out of the year.


Just make your own tasteless "RIP Sexcopter Boner-Hitler". Or, you know, ignore them. If the guy is OK other than this, and you can/can't get over it..

Given your friend history, he's probably the most stable. For some reason, I thought you were Rhyno due to the same sentiment, and the fact I am too lazy to read. Ignore that.

I figure his target buyer is one of the neighbors who wants a bigger plot for relatively cheap.

Powershift posted:

Lumber looks to be 2-3 times more expensive in the UK, so you're looking at a lot more money for the same thing. There are a ton of places that make kits, one like that seems to be about £15-£20k, and you're looking at about £40-£50k finished.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1381428

http://www.ascot-timber.co.uk/uploads/pdfs/Garage%20Price%20Guides/RoomAbove.pdf

Seems to be a lot of land in the UK for under £10k an acre, too.

Hey, you got any resources for the US? I've been looking at a few different setups because this is what I'd like to build, and I can get land here for a price, but most of them are coming in in the ~$80k range.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Sep 6, 2016

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

meatpimp posted:

I don't know if this is more red-title worthy or cringe-inducing.
You don't know because its neither. Don't be a butt, life is too short to be snarky at random people on the internet.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0KZTdHad48

epic bird guy
Dec 9, 2014

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

No it's not. It's terrible. Anything that isnt straight out legalisation is terrible. No one should be arrested for paying for sex, no one should be ostracised for sex. I strongly object to the Swedish model as it is proven to be not as good or as safe as a properly legalised and regulated sex industry.

The simple fact is that where prositiution is legal, sex trafficing is drat near zero, lower than Sweden can hope for. Women are safer and control the transaction. It is a good deal healtier as STD's are much less likely to be passed on, the brotels are better able to enforce safe sex. Workers are able to pay tax and are much less likely to be controlled by pimps. No one is clogging jails or courts for prostitution, police can go deal with real crimes. There is much lower levels of organised crime and the associated problems. There is simply no real downside to a legalised and regulated sex industry. Instances of rape and assaults are much lower too.

Legalise and regulate is ALWAYS the answer, exactly like Portugal proved with any and all drugs and any country that legalised and regulated prositution, like NSW.

It is incorrect that legal prostitution causes a near zero incidence of sex trafficking. Nevada has high rates, especially of child prostitution, Australia also has problems despite the most populous areas of the country having legalized and regulated prostitution.

I will concede two things about the Swedish model:

First, it was written and implemented before the internet age and there has been increased use of the internet for the trading of sexual services, according to a variety of sources.

Second, that the difficulty in quantifying data about the sex trade in Sweden results in competing studies which criticize one another and make the issue that much more difficult to figure out.

The fact remains however, that Sweden has one of the lowest rates of human trafficking in the world. Australia does as well, but where there is a market for sexual services, trafficking will exist, and one of the successes of the Swedish model is that fewer men are buying sexual services. While I agree that no one should be ostracized for sex, the sex trade is directly connected to human trafficking, and if eliminating trafficking is the goal, then eliminating the market must be part of the plan.

While women from wealthier backgrounds often have the agency to operate as sex workers on their own, the number of vulnerable and exploited persons is growing worldwide, and they are often imported to places that have a legalized model. If all sex workers could operate as free agents in a legalized model I'd be all for it but that has not been convincingly shown to be the case. Even the Netherlands is a common destination and source of trafficking victims.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Oh hey guys what's going.....

:yikes:

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I have strong opinions about whores

literally a fish
Oct 2, 2014

German officer Johannes Bolter peeks out the hatch of his Tiger I heavy tank during a quiet moment before the Battle of Kursk - c:1943 (colorized)
Slippery Tilde

meatpimp posted:

In other news -- did literally a fish get caught up in an American gunfight on a local street and die? His epic trip is going very scarcely documented. :(

Not dead, just been busy & not doing things that are particularly AI except for having put 5500 miles on this rental car

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

SCA Enthusiast posted:

It is incorrect that legal prostitution causes a near zero incidence of sex trafficking. Nevada has high rates, especially of child prostitution, Australia also has problems despite the most populous areas of the country having legalized and regulated prostitution.

I will concede two things about the Swedish model:

First, it was written and implemented before the internet age and there has been increased use of the internet for the trading of sexual services, according to a variety of sources.

Second, that the difficulty in quantifying data about the sex trade in Sweden results in competing studies which criticize one another and make the issue that much more difficult to figure out.

The fact remains however, that Sweden has one of the lowest rates of human trafficking in the world. Australia does as well, but where there is a market for sexual services, trafficking will exist, and one of the successes of the Swedish model is that fewer men are buying sexual services. While I agree that no one should be ostracized for sex, the sex trade is directly connected to human trafficking, and if eliminating trafficking is the goal, then eliminating the market must be part of the plan.

While women from wealthier backgrounds often have the agency to operate as sex workers on their own, the number of vulnerable and exploited persons is growing worldwide, and they are often imported to places that have a legalized model. If all sex workers could operate as free agents in a legalized model I'd be all for it but that has not been convincingly shown to be the case. Even the Netherlands is a common destination and source of trafficking victims.

it's called ephebophilia

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Cage posted:

You don't know because its neither. Don't be a butt, life is too short to be snarky at random people on the internet.

Wrong. "Canada is great, I love it because I can pay women to have sex with me and get weed delivery" is a terrible statement to make non-ironically.


literally a fish posted:

Not dead, just been busy & not doing things that are particularly AI except for having put 5500 miles on this rental car

Congratulations on not dying in America! (yet). Still no burnout video from the rental car? :smith:


Phone posted:

it's called ephebophilia

I had to look it up. That's... oddly specific.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

meatpimp posted:

Wrong. "Canada is great, I love it because I can pay women to have sex with me and get weed delivery" is a terrible statement to make non-ironically.

Weed delivery would be pretty amazing. Why do you hate fun?

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Safety Dance posted:

Weed delivery would be pretty amazing. Why do you hate fun?

There's cookie dough delivery on campus at the school I went to. I'm really hoping they took full advantage of the market and planned their schedule with the weed delivery guys.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Safety Dance posted:

Weed delivery would be pretty amazing. Why do you hate fun?

You have a valid point about weed delivery. I don't hate fun, it's just when fun gets all nerdy and human-trafficy that I mind.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Visited a place yesterday

If only they were open! :buddy:

Going to check into renting a truck and driving up to the site. The main stream rental companies don't like you driving the cars up to the summit :(

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

meatpimp posted:

Wrong. "Canada is great, I love it because I can pay women to have sex with me and get weed delivery" is a terrible statement to make non-ironically.
It was ironic, and Canada is pretty terrible and boring otherwise. Do you feel better now?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

meatpimp posted:

Wrong. "Canada is great, I love it because I can pay women to have sex with me and get weed delivery" is a terrible statement to make non-ironically.


Congratulations on not dying in America! (yet). Still no burnout video from the rental car? :smith:


I had to look it up. That's... oddly specific.

there's an sacyclopedia entry about it

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
Oh god, are we really having a prostitution discussion in AI?

My contacts with prostitution have been limited to defending prostitutes from criminal charges as a public defender. I would say that somethong like 80% of street prostitutes and maybe 30% of internet prostitues had what could fairly be described as pimps, even if the client described them as drivers, boyfriends, or so on.
The way we deal with prostitution in america doesn't work. Prosecutors and police pay lip service to "OMG trafficing!" but when brought up in a non-juvinile situation it is always treated as some excuse to try to get out of a conviction.
Even when the prosecutors believe them and try the pimp, they treat thise victims like the "whores" they believe them to be.
I had a client. First time prostitution charge, from another, far away state. Clearly trafficed. Upon her arrest her parents took her home and put her in rehab. The DA refused to do anything with the charges and attempted to compel her to come to court from thousands of miles (not needed in a misdemeanor).
The swedish model has its own issues. It still forces the practice underground and, as any enforcement will be targeted against johns, meaning less likelihood of finding trafficed persons. It means that no john who has questions about a person will ever contact police.
A licensed type system seems like it would solve more problems, but it has its own issues.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

nm posted:

Oh god, are we really having a prostitution discussion in AI?

I don't think there's much of a discussion to have. Nobody grows up telling their parents "I want to be a whore." It is scraping the bottom of human behavior barrel and anyone associated is either socially maladjusted or being preyed-upon. Perhaps both.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

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meatpimp posted:

I don't think there's much of a discussion to have. Nobody grows up telling their parents "I want to be a whore." It is scraping the bottom of human behavior barrel and anyone associated is either socially maladjusted or being preyed-upon. Perhaps both.

It's a job selling a skill, same as a cook, or a mechanic, or a plumber. The issue isn't people getting paid to gently caress, it's people getting forced to gently caress for money.

Look at the porn industry for comparison. Whole bunch of people 110% getting paid to gently caress, however with stringent record-keeping regarding age of consent and industry-wide testing standards to keep it from turning into an AIDSpocalypse. It isn't perfect, people still get exploited because there's absolutely a social stigma involved and that creates leverage, but it's better than a free-for-all and trying to prosecute victims of trafficking.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

In other, less sad people paying to gently caress other sad people news, I found a solution to my in-wall speaker grille painting problem.

I had Sherwin Williams mix up a sample of the color I'm using for my wall, but using half the pigment. It ended up the same tone, but lighter (obviously). Then I took an old spray bottle that had a wide, dispersed spray pattern, added paint and diluted it about 50/50 with water and sprayed away.

The perforated holes in the grilles immediately closed up, leaving the grilles looking like a blotchy mess. After a moment to think :wtf: , I got the air spraying thing for the compressor and set the compressor at ~25psi. I sprayed the grilles and kept moving/spraying until the holes stopped closing up.

loving worked great. I could have gone even lighter, the grilles don't entirely blend in, but it's definitely viable. :)

Edit: Pic:

The blotch is something on my lens. There's a solatube above, and it's sunny today, so at that angle it looks shiny, but it's standard satin finish. You can see that the grille looks close to the surrounding color, but it's really significantly lighter. Proof of concept, I'm happy.

meatpimp fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Sep 6, 2016

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

meatpimp posted:

I don't think there's much of a discussion to have. Nobody grows up telling their parents "I want to be a whore." It is scraping the bottom of human behavior barrel and anyone associated is either socially maladjusted or being preyed-upon. Perhaps both.

Hell, I agree with this

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

literally a fish posted:

Not dead, just been busy & not doing things that are particularly AI except for having put 5500 miles on this rental car

You still hitting Dallas again today? I'll be home around 10:30 :wink:

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

some texas redneck posted:

You still hitting Dallas again today? I'll be home around 10:30 :wink:

Speaking of prostitution.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

iwentdoodie posted:

Speaking of prostitution.

Hey, as long as STR's not on the clock...

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Doom is the best game so far. I'd otherwise say Witcher III but that technically came out last year.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

SCA Enthusiast posted:

Nevada has high rates

I don't know if Nevada is a fair comparison, considering it's only legal on a county by county basis and there are a relative handful of active brothels that are all located in remote rural areas far away from population centers. If it were common and widespread it would be substantially more difficult for unlicensed pimps/brothels to set up shop, as there would be little demand for their services.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Just started off my first beer kit :)

epic bird guy
Dec 9, 2014

Geoj posted:

I don't know if Nevada is a fair comparison, considering it's only legal on a county by county basis and there are a relative handful of active brothels that are all located in remote rural areas far away from population centers. If it were common and widespread it would be substantially more difficult for unlicensed pimps/brothels to set up shop, as there would be little demand for their services.

But it creates the market by being the part of the country where prostitution is legal, drawing more people and therefore inviting trafficking. A tighter statewide control would certainly improve things.

Tomarse posted:

Just started off my first beer kit :)

Congrats! What kind of kit? Brewing is awesome.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



SCA Enthusiast posted:

Congrats! What kind of kit? Brewing is awesome.

I've done wine before but never beer. Its apparently an American style IPA. I suspect its going to be a bit stronger that I would usually go for but I shall struggle through it! ;)

I should have read the instructions earlier as I have most of the next 3 weeks off work, but it looks like I should have started this off about a week ago for maximum vacation enjoyment!

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗
The discover weekly playlist on Spotify is one of my favorite loving things ever.

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

iwentdoodie posted:

The discover weekly playlist on Spotify is one of my favorite loving things ever.

I just wish I could blacklist songs to skip over once I know I don't like them to give more listen time to ones I'm on the fence about. But yes I agree.

Here's the latest track discover weekly got me hooked on. Pro listen right here: https://youtu.be/Uh5mMMrtJ_A

Coredump fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Sep 7, 2016

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


angryrobots posted:

Chic fil a killed the spicy chicken biscuit over the summer apparently and replaced it with some healthy egg white bullshit AND I AM UPSET

I know, the Spicy biscuit was like, the one thing on the breakfast menu that wasn't dry garbage., WTF. YOU GUYS HAD ONE JOB!

Coredump
Dec 1, 2002

ExplodingSims posted:

I know, the Spicy biscuit was like, the one thing on the breakfast menu that wasn't dry garbage., WTF. YOU GUYS HAD ONE JOB!

Sausage egg biscuit is good.

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Coredump posted:

I just wish I could blacklist songs to skip over once I know I don't like them to give more listen time to ones I'm on the fence about. But yes I agree.

Here's the latest track discover weekly got me hooked on. Pro listen right here: https://youtu.be/Uh5mMMrtJ_A

That is indeed good. Mine just popped this up: https://youtu.be/cJSsU2gTsLw

My first three this week were hilarious. A socal surf punk band, Pantera, and some underground hiphop.

West SAAB Story
Mar 13, 2014

by Athanatos

(and can't post for 208 days!)

88h88 posted:

I once paid an ex for sex. I was seeing her at the time and It was only 20p but still...

scuz posted:

Yeah, I mean I paid her 60p and it was "fine, I guess."

Which of you is Karl Pilkington?

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Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Am I first to post? https://youtu.be/asLA5qMTJec

:lol:

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