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A White Guy posted:One torpedo is probably not enough to sink the Long Island, especially with Allied damage control. Hopefully tomorrow brings another successful torpedo strike or confirmation that the she's gone under the waves. I don't know man, it's a CVE. They can die from an errant bomb. It's true he didnt go up in points though.
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RA Rx posted:I don't know man, it's a CVE. They can die from an errant bomb. And it's just north of Rabaul so pretty far from Allied bases.
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alex314 posted:Do HoI4 have a proper naval damage model now? I remember as long as 1 HP was left on a ship it could be fully repaired in earlier games. It's shittier than ever.
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   What the hell, my planes attacking shipping? What weird alternate dimension have I woken to?   I swear this game just fixes bugs at a certain point.  Yep, it seems like my planes are attacking shipping again....  Their escorts need work though.  Owch.  For a CVE, this is taking some pounding.   Well, it was odd to see all my planes suddenly attacking, but its a good thing! Except for heavy losses.
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Sep 6, 2016 17:52
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Wow, that's drat right heroic of the Long Island. Definitely going down now...
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Sep 6, 2016 20:12
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"Bomb hit" was actually some poor sap throwing a hand grenade out the window since GH forgot to give them bombs.
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Insane Totoro posted:"Bomb hit" was actually some poor sap throwing a hand grenade out the window since GH forgot to give them bombs. I think you mean "Air-to-Air Missile" repurposed for the ground-attack/naval-attack role.
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How many bombs can a drat merchant ship with some stuff bolted on survive?
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Sep 6, 2016 23:31
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Similarly: How many Zeros can fail to guard a Betty bomber flight against minimal allied opposition? I'd guess the answer's the same: as many as it takes to make the Japanese player miserable.
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My theory is that the "stuff bolted on" is acting as a sort of ablative armor.
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Talking about Zeros and IJN I've seen a cool movie recently: Eternal Zero http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2404217/ With bonus ugly baka Gaijin 
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Sep 7, 2016 00:20
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What the hell is the Long Island even doing there?
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The hell kinda helmet is that one guy wearing? Reminds me of darth helmet.
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A better question is why there is an apparent USN fleet carrier dicking around Bali. Is it based out of Perth? Colombo?
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Saint Celestine posted:The hell kinda helmet is that one guy wearing? Reminds me of darth helmet. It's a "talker" helmet; they're extra large so you can wear communications gear underneath it.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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alex314 posted:How many bombs can a drat merchant ship with some stuff bolted on survive? Depends on the size of the bomb, where on the ship it hits, the quality of damage control the ship's crew can manage, and the random vagaries of chance. Also the battle report is a pack of lies and distortions (thus reasonably simulating real life battle reports), although "heavy fires" generally is true and means the ship really did get hit by at least something. Goetta posted:A better question is why there is an apparent USN fleet carrier dicking around Bali. Is it based out of Perth? Colombo? In real life those little carriers were used to deliver planes. Maybe it was delivering planes.
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Leperflesh posted:Depends on the size of the bomb, where on the ship it hits, the quality of damage control the ship's crew can manage, and the random vagaries of chance. The one Grey is chasing appears to be a regular ol' big carrier
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I think the game is bugged again. It obviously thinks the CVE Long Island is Eniwetok 
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That's a repeat episode Grey-san
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Cartoon posted:That's a repeat episode Grey-san
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A turn so nice he posted it twice. No wait! even better. quote:Last time, on War in the Pacific day by day thread! Ikasuhito fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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I guess we should have expected some filler at some point. Still better than DBZ so far, though!
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Soup du Jour posted:I guess we should have expected some filler at some point. Still better than DBZ so far, though! I was sure I hadn't posted yesterday. Ah well, better than missing a day!
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I think the game is bugged again. It obviously thinks the CVE Long Island is Eniwetok Capable, Valuable, Extremely-durable?
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i81icu812 posted:Capable, Valuable, Extremely-durable? Cyclopean, Vast, Eldritch
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Soup du Jour posted:I guess we should have expected some filler at some point. Still better than DBZ so far, though! The battle of midway dragged out over 3 months.
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  One of our troop ships is hit by a enemy sub.  We go after a airfield.  There are two squadrons of fighters on escort missions in Rabaul.  It seems yesterday was not a fluke.  The RAF spend the day targeting this hex.  The allies have a large number of reinforcements in Akyab, but still lose a lot of troops.   Everything but the terrain is against us here, but we still cause massive casualties to the Chinese troops.  Well, things are getting a little more action packed! Which is good. No sight of the Long island today means we probability got her yesterday, but I think we have lost contact with the other carrier. Ah well, a CVE is better than nothing.  At least the ship we lost was nothing more than a tub.
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Doesn't look like you got points for it though.
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How useful is a 1-point boat? What if you had 1000 xAKLs of the same model? Or are they all unique? This game should abstract large numbers of small junks, or at least for some special operations. Every bolt that springs loose needs to be simulated. How about gathering them all together as flak for amphibious operations and key battles? Could distract a lot of firecrackers (they've been known to get lucky), and if the AI is anything to go by, some serious bombs and torpedoes. RA Rx fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Not just any sub, SS S-38 was previously assumed sunk.
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RA Rx posted:How useful is a 1-point boat? There's various models of xAKL. One of the 1-pointers I can find is the Kiso-E Cargo Class, which has a total cargo space of 795 tons, and the ship clocks in at a whopping 830 tons. As for flak, they generally have light guns. The Kiso-E above only has 4 13.2mm MGs and a 12cm short gun. Heck, the To'Su class of xAKL ships only carry 170 tons of cargo! So it really depends. They won't be very useful as flak, but rather as targets that can take damage that would go to better, more costly ships.
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Chunky Monkey posted:Doesn't look like you got points for it though. More telling, no corresponding plane losses.
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TheDemon posted:More telling, no corresponding plane losses. Were there point losses after the first day of hitting it, though? It might have had to ditch them at some point in between.
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RZApublican posted:Were there point losses after the first day of hitting it, though? It might have had to ditch them at some point in between. If planes are lost they are represented as "Destroyed on field", so if it spikes by 40 or whatever, you know it sunk with the planes on. Otherwise, it was near land and they could automatically transfer, IIRC. As well, there have been no major point swings, yet.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:There's various models of xAKL. One of the 1-pointers I can find is the Kiso-E Cargo Class, which has a total cargo space of 795 tons, and the ship clocks in at a whopping 830 tons. Ah yes, my poor military lingo, they'd be useful as decoys. Good to have that answered too though (that's more AA than I expected)! Holy poo poo, no load of planes destroyed on field yet? That's... is the Long Island maybe going to survive??
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RA Rx posted:Ah yes, my poor military lingo, they'd be useful as decoys. Good to have that answered too though (that's more AA than I expected)! Either it survived, somehow, or the planes automatically rebased to a nearby airfield.
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RA Rx posted:Or are they all unique? This game should abstract large numbers of small junks, or at least for some special operations. Every bolt that springs loose needs to be simulated. Really small junks etc. are supposed to be abstracted in the form of automatic supply transfer between nearby ports. I know, I know - abstraction, what were they thinking!
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  With more ships on the move, the Allies are getting more interceptions – shame their torpedoes don't work yet!  Our escorts finally do their job and we see these ships – A tanker? Here? It seems I'm not the only one to have been a little complacent.  It's not just a tanker either – Thankfully, the Kiddo Butai is in the area.  Lillys exist to be shot down it seems.  Although P40's are deadly.  You know, it's a good think all this inactivity has left me with large pools of planes....  The Jeans get a hit.  I need to send in some troops to root out these fighters.  I landed fresh troops at Port Moresby, but it seems that they are not enough to deal with the hellish defences now in place.  Our bombers make more sweeps – I've been a little lax with the lack of air attacks, and I'm rushing an Air HQ into Rangoon to let us use torpedoes.  The British Motorist is such a silly name, it needs to die.  Our men hold out for a second day in Chittagong, but I will pull them out and to the south.  Our men assault across a river, sending the enemy fleeing.  We see another wasteful attack by the Chinese here.  That was an absolutely brutal day – we lost 44 planes and thousands of men across the theatres. We did do some damage though. It looks like the lull period is over! The Men in Chittagong are trapped there. They must hold out as best they can.
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