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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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Hoops posted:Lol Somebody keeps posting newspaper front pages and every now and then the tortured process of arranging a goon meet at a board game cafe begins.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 21:59 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 15:46 |
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There's websites where you can all put in your availability and it gives suggested times. https://www.doodle.com is one
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 22:40 |
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Hoops posted:Lol I'm assuming you know who pissflaps and coohoolin are. Yeah that's about it.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 22:48 |
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Hoops posted:Lol It's unreadable now because someone posts a 100 front page images and a single comment, then someone quotes them with "I agree" Which makes a change from it being unreadable due to my posting so ......
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 22:48 |
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jre posted:It's unreadable now because someone posts a 100 front page images and a single comment, then someone quotes them with "I agree" Ach, well if it's unreadable I'll stop; it's just to pass the time on my morning commute.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 23:40 |
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Niric posted:Ach, well if it's unreadable I'll stop; it's just to pass the time on my morning commute. It's really not unreadable, only 2 people complain about it & one of those is Pissflaps.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:39 |
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I don't post much, but I appreciate the roundup because I'm extremely lazy and I haven't bought any of these papers in years. Also I'm moving to Edinburgh in October so I'd be interested in talking to goons around a sticky boardgame table in a 'tavern' full of gross turbonerds. Bruntsfield will be my neighbourhood and it seems easy to get around from there.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 00:50 |
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Niric posted:I disagree on this point of it being unwise or will reflect badly. I think sturgeon is intentionally doing vague substance-less grandstanding. She's quite aware it will have no effect, and is probably happier that way because it means not having to do anything while giving the appearance of doing something. It's meaningless, but it does have a tangible benefit for Sturgeon and the SNP; she's presenting herself as the de facto president of Scotland, suggesting that she and the Scottish Parliament should have a role in foreign affairs. So you don't see Sturgeon walking back on her party's pledges to get a seat at the big boy's table as a problem? I wasn't invoking Clegg as the boogeyman here - Sturgeon is doing exactly the same thing. On the subject of the SNP in Westminster, Ian "Evil oval office" Blackford was selected to open the debate on the EU referendum petition. Predictably enough he was utterly destroyed. Kwasi Kwarteng posted:As I understand the position, in the past two years the hon. Gentleman has taken part in two referendums and lost both of them. As a consequence, I imagine he wants to rerun both. Which comes first? Blackford's only real defence to this was that the Brexit campaign had no more plan than a complete fiction written on the side of a bus, while the SNP had 650 pages of fiction. Shortly after he was deposed because he couldn't stick to the topic.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 08:18 |
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Jedit posted:So you don't see Sturgeon walking back on her party's pledges to get a seat at the big boy's table as a problem? I wasn't invoking Clegg as the boogeyman here - Sturgeon is doing exactly the same thing. Morally? Sure, I think it's pretty hypothetical - and I don't agree with the SNP acting like Scottish MPs aren't a thing. It's the standard we don't have a voice complaint being cranked up to 11 because, er, Scotland is more represented than other groups of 5 million people in the UK. But electorally? I just don't see this as comparable to Clegg, who largely took the rap from disappointed wooly liberals/soft left types/students who were justifiably angered at how extreme the coalition were, especially on austerity. There's not that sense of betrayal going on here, and I just can't see who is going to turn against sturgeon because of it beyond, possibly, a tiny handful of super hardcore nationalists/very lefty types, who would probably vote SSP or similar anyway quote:Scotland's papers: Indyref2 plans and teacher tragedy Niric fucked around with this message at 08:53 on Sep 7, 2016 |
# ? Sep 7, 2016 08:51 |
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Niric posted:Ach, well if it's unreadable I'll stop; it's just to pass the time on my morning commute. I'm mostly lurking the thread but I'd appreciate it if you'd put the front pages in [timg] tags as it's a lot to scroll through if my browser doesn't jump correctly to unread posts.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 11:01 |
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It's better when they're not done through Twitter as well.
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 11:28 |
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Reveilled posted:I'm mostly lurking the thread but I'd appreciate it if you'd put the front pages in [timg] tags as it's a lot to scroll through if my browser doesn't jump correctly to unread posts. No probs, since I'm doing it on the app I kinda forget about sizes!
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# ? Sep 7, 2016 12:18 |
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Scotland's papers: Student squeeze and police attackquote:The Herald says university principals have that warned middle-class students will besqueezed out of universities under plans to boost the number of poorer undergraduates. Who is it that publishes the star? The current story seems a bit removed from their usual tits and celebs (preferably both) beat, much more the mail or the express's style of random politicised hatred at poor people or foreigners (preferably both).
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 08:30 |
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Niric posted:Who is it that publishes the star?
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 08:48 |
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Niric posted:Scotland's papers: Student squeeze and police attack The guy who publishes the Express. And reminder that the Star was really pro-EDL 5 years ago. To an extent which is still shocking.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 12:13 |
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The EU have appointed Guy Verhofstad to deal with Brexit. He has a fun perspective on Scotland. BBC: "Can Scotland stay in the EU without joining a queue to get in?" GV: "Yeah" https://amp.twimg.com/v/a9b88577-e4...54-ce32affde399 Bonus cartoon:
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 17:55 |
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Foreign affairs are reserved powers. Scotland can't join the EU even after the UK leaves. And apart from that there isn't a 'queue'. I'm going to assume you're repeating somebody else's misrepresentation of what he said.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 18:02 |
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I loving hate fishermen. I never knew this until brexit. Just murder all the birds while you also overfish yourself into joblessness you horrible pricks.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 22:35 |
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Coohoolin posted:
This would be a lot funnier if it weren't completely disingenuous . It's not surprising - or even particularly objectionable - that the SNP want to talk about independence, but pretending that they don't, and that the overriding goal of independence doesn't influence much of their rhetoric and governance, is just deliberately naive. It's a manifestation of something that I see cropping up a lot; many people, smart, nice people, blindly accepting whatever the SNP say at the current moment at face value, as if they have no experience of political parties. So education is now the sole focus, with no thought of what they were talking about a week ago (see also, "the SNP are the most left wing major party"). Scotland's papers: Dungavel to close and girl to wed school 'janny' quote:The Herald leads with the closure of controversial Dungavel Immigration Removal Centre in Lanarkshire, as doesthe Scottish edition of the Times. Glad to see Dungavel close given its awful reputation, but there's no sign that any new facility won't still be run by private prison profiteers GEO group (who feature in the latest private eye), so it seems unlikely much will change. It's annoying that the focus of the story is Dungavel, rather than the company running it so badly.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 08:38 |
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Niric posted:This would be a lot funnier if it weren't This is true to an extent, but pretending that the union isn't a dysfunctional, anachronistic mess and that there aren't legitimate grievances isn't going to defeat Scottish nationalism. At the end of the day, the SNP will always support independence. If you believe everything they say and do is part of a great masterplan to deliver it then you cannot credibly call on them to "get on with the day job", because you already believe they are intrinsically incapable of doing so (the electorate disagrees, of course). It's doubly disingenuous when the context of the "day job" has been completely changed by a reckless and incompetent UK Government. The decision to hold a referendum has done a huge amount of damage to our economy and the Scottish Conservatives are desperate for anything to distract from this embarrassing reality. Indyref2 is a useful scapegoat. Talking about independence is also a good way to drive a wedge between the SNP and more conservative voters who might support them. This was borne out by their decline in vote share across these constituencies recently. It's also worth noting that the last thing unionists want is for the constitutional debate to become softer, nicer and more honest, particularly now we are heading for Brexit. Either debate is shut down completely by the 2014 result, or we have loud and divisive arguments (usually based on how loud and divisive everything is) to drive people away and maintain the consensus of 2014. It's a fighting retreat, consistent with previous tactics. Meanwhile, the Lib Dems and Labour want to pretend that we live in an alternate reality where Scotland can maintain access to both unions, this is also unhelpful. If anything, the Lib Dems have been the most dishonest about the strength of their own Europeanism. British nationalism always comes first.
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# ? Sep 10, 2016 09:17 |
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Chas McGill posted:I don't post much, but I appreciate the roundup because I'm extremely lazy and I haven't bought any of these papers in years. Bruntsfield is a nice place Though I'm moving out to Fife in November, but won't be far away. If you like that sort of gaming, walk down from Bruntsfield to Tollcross and go to the Edinburgh Games Hub. Me and my pal found it thinking it was a cafe, stayed for their panini and brownies, and they seemed terribly confused by these girls coming in just for the food not the games, but they were very nice . I noticed there's also a new one down by Lebowskis, but they haven't fed me brownies enough for an endorsement.
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# ? Sep 10, 2016 09:53 |
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Chas McGill posted:Also I'm moving to Edinburgh in October so I'd be interested in talking to goons around a sticky boardgame table in a 'tavern' full of gross turbonerds. Bruntsfield will be my neighbourhood and it seems easy to get around from there. Missed this. You will not find a sticky table in any games cafe in the land, because one post on BGG saying "they don't clean the tables" and they will lose most of their regular business. Also you won't meet many "gross turbonerds" these days because the increased popularity of gaming in the mainstream has pushed the real trogs back into their holes. If you went to an event like Spiel, Europe's biggest games trade fair with footfall of 40,000 visitors a day, you'd be shocked by how normal nearly everyone looks.
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# ? Sep 10, 2016 11:17 |
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Jedit posted:Missed this. You will not find a sticky table in any games cafe in the land, because one post on BGG saying "they don't clean the tables" and they will lose most of their regular business. Also you won't meet many "gross turbonerds" these days because the increased popularity of gaming in the mainstream has pushed the real trogs back into their holes. If you went to an event like Spiel, Europe's biggest games trade fair with footfall of 40,000 visitors a day, you'd be shocked by how normal nearly everyone looks. Please tell me you are self-aware of how defensively turbonerdish this post comes across as.
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# ? Sep 10, 2016 11:35 |
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I love the idea of the Games Hub in Edinburgh, but the fact that most of the gaming space is in a basement with almost no natural light really puts me off going there. Glasgow's pop-up cafe is lovely, pretty accessible from the train station too! The cafe it's in -Saramago- has a great menu too.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 14:24 |
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Acaila posted:Bruntsfield is a nice place Jedit posted:Missed this. You will not find a sticky table in any games cafe in the land, because one post on BGG saying "they don't clean the tables" and they will lose most of their regular business. Also you won't meet many "gross turbonerds" these days because the increased popularity of gaming in the mainstream has pushed the real trogs back into their holes. If you went to an event like Spiel, Europe's biggest games trade fair with footfall of 40,000 visitors a day, you'd be shocked by how normal nearly everyone looks. Chas McGill fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Sep 11, 2016 |
# ? Sep 11, 2016 14:50 |
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Scotland's papers: 9/11 remembered and 'Mad Pup Adair' death quote:A photograph of four-year-old Olivia-Mae Johnston dominates in the front page of The Herald. She held a candle at a memorial service to mark the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks. Nothing from the courier today, and they have the times image but no text; main story is the same as today's guardian, about Hillary Clinton and a proposed " consultation" on prosecuting companies as well as individuals for fraud. Which seems like a non&story since absolutely nothing has happened on it yet Its been 4 years, but in an uncertain world it's reassuring to know that you can count on old firm fans continuing to be awful
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 08:29 |
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Stuart Campbell's had his Twitter suspended L O L
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:56 |
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A few hours too late it's back up now. Let the crowdfunding commence.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:57 |
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Pissflaps posted:A few hours too late it's back up now. I can't tell he blocked me for the hillsborough thing.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:14 |
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serious gaylord posted:I can't tell he blocked me for the hillsborough thing. Congratulations you're now on the twitter block list he distributes to his followers: and then the fucker whines about being 'silenced' by Twitter. Delicious hypocrisy.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:19 |
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Pissflaps posted:A few hours too late it's back up now. What a shame
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:46 |
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I'm not sure i'd count it as a good thing that the Express is silencing people for disagreeing with their blatant race hatred. Rev. Stu or not.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:07 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I'm not sure i'd count it as a good thing that the Express is silencing people for disagreeing with their blatant race hatred. Rev. Stu or not. Well no, but when its him, well...
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:09 |
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Cerv posted:Stuart Campbell's had his Twitter suspended For no reason, presumably because Siobhan McFadyen is having a tantrum. It was reinstated earlier today.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:09 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I'm not sure i'd count it as a good thing that the Express is silencing people for disagreeing with their blatant race hatred. Rev. Stu or not. The Express hasn't 'silenced' anybody: they don't run Twitter, and the guy was publishing on his blog and using his other Twitter account while his main one was suspended. Accounts get suspended and reinstated on Twitter all the time. While we're on the subject, it was amusing to see him recently bemoaning the fact that Labour hadn't used their time in power to enact progressive enough policies - at the same time as the silly fucker was enthusiastically voting Lib Dem.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:11 |
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Coohoolin posted:For no reason, presumably because Siobhan McFadyen is having a tantrum. It was reinstated earlier today. do you really believe that there was no reason? if this was his first warning from Twitter he doesn't seem to be taking it on board; instead crowing to his followers. which makes me think a permanent ban is inevitable. like Milo Yiannopolous got eventually
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 07:18 |
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Coohoolin posted:For no reason, presumably because Siobhan McFadyen is having a tantrum. It was reinstated earlier today. He deserves to get banned for tweeting his views on hillsborough. They're abhorent.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 07:22 |
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serious gaylord posted:He deserves to get banned for tweeting his views on hillsborough. They're abhorent. He's consistent, then.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 08:00 |
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Front pages: NHS 'meltdown' and MP numbers cutquote:The news that David Cameron is to quit the House of Commons, while the BBC loses out to Channel 4 to screen the Great British Bake Off, dominates Tuesday's front pages. I'm genuinely surprised about the lack of a significant brexit bump in the polls. Purely anecdotally I know quite a few people, myself included, who are more amenable to the idea of independence since the vote, with no indication any opinions have gone the other way. As a snap judgement I think this might have a lot to do with (in my opinion damaging) identity politics being possibly the major dominant decision making factor; being for or anti independence is how Scottish politics is largely defined, and that's more or less entrenched. It might change when brexit actually heats up and you get some noticeable changes, but I would've thought there would be an evident difference already
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 09:06 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 15:46 |
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I thought there'd be a jump for Yes support in the polls but it just hasn't happened. I can't see another referendum happening any time soon.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 09:16 |