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Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Geirskogul posted:

I had no idea hifi timers were a thing :psyduck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbNgbtZJAcU

Ah, the days when equipment had a little "120/240" switch hidden in the back. Nowadays all the switching power supplies don't really care as long as you feed it 50/60Hz 100-240Vac.

ASIDE: I always giggle when I see the HUGE UK power plugs with the built in fuses. Compared to the US plugs they're so comically large (but arguably safer and they have a build-in fuse).

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Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

nigga crab pollock posted:

on the saturn its not actually the quake engine it's a modified version of the build engine i think :(

the n64 has real quake but i am not sure if anyone has ever tried to modify that and poo poo i would be surprised if it still supported quakec and modding and all that good stuff

i know that somebody's made a source port of doom 64 that requires a doom 64 rom file to generate the wad file. but obviously that's going the other direction.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!

The Kins posted:

Yeah, Quake DS was hitting a memory wall. The same guy did a Quake 2 DS that required the RAM pack and a belief in religion to get to function.

As for bad and wacky ports, what about Windows Mobile?

Ahaha, holy crap, I was gonna the non-touchscreen Windows Mobile version of Quake I ran on some early HTC trash but that? That is a thing of beauty

I raise a Zaurus port. All the joys of lovely PDA Quake but now with Linux!

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

This thread has recently taught me to:
  • not feel bad that I've "only" bothered to emulate the 8-16 bit Nintendo consoles of my childhood on a RetroPie, because N64, PSX, DS, etc. aren't too good on it
  • not to ever get rid of my N64 and games, good god
  • feel so-so that I never got a PSP because it seems like a hella tight pocket emulator machine

Anonymouse Mook
Jul 12, 2006

Showing Vettel the way since 1979

The Kins posted:

It's a custom engine originally developed for the console versions of Exhumed/Powerslave, called Slavedriver. The developers (Lobotomy Software) successfully got the license to port Quake and Duke Nukem 3D to Saturn, arguing that it'd be quicker, easier and cheaper than porting the real game engine's to the Saturn's hosed up architecture.

It wasn't, on all three counts, and while the results made the most of the Saturn's hardware, Lobotomy basically didn't make any money off of it due to the sheer amount of time and effort of rebuilding everything for a platform that was openly hostile to 3D. They didn't survive the 32-bit era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUZ436FXB4U

We got Death Tank though, this makes everything worthwhile. It's a shame Zwei never got properly ported. The XBLA sequel was fine I guess, but the simple graphics and 7 player local just made the Saturn version so phenomenal.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Three-Phase posted:

ASIDE: I always giggle when I see the HUGE UK power plugs with the built in fuses. Compared to the US plugs they're so comically large (but arguably safer and they have a build-in fuse).

UK home wiring (and some of their plumbing practices) is genuinely horrifying compared to countries with actual modern electrical codes with giant ring circuits being common. Each plug has a fuse so that a malfunctioning washing machine doesn't start a fire in a bedroom.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
Correct me if I'm wrong:

A modern US outlet is 14 amps, 15A breaker, 120v. So, around 1800W of available power. Also, all wiring going to the outlet must be rated to at least 15A (though I always buy 20A wiring when doing retrofits because).

A UK outlet is 13A at 240V. 3100W of available power. Also,

Wikipedia posted:

Rules for ring circuits say that the cable rating must be no less than two thirds of the rating of the protective device.

(referring to the 20, 30, or 32A fuses in the plug, or the breaker itself)

quote:

The IET Wiring Regulations (BS 7671) permit an unlimited number of socket outlets to be installed on a ring circuit, provided that the floor area served does not exceed 100 m2.

However, it also states that many older homes (which is most homes) only have 10 or 12A rated wiring in the ring. Plus there's also the fact that an "electrician" can gently caress up and cross-connect two rings, meaning you have a possible failure or short being shared between two 32A breakers.

"Why Tea Kettles Boil Slowly in the US" posted:

An “average” kettle in the UK runs at about 2800 W

A very good video (13:20 if you're on mobile and it doesn't jump) by one of my favorite youtubers, bigclivedotcom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTUUijDclWk&t=798s

"We have this organization, called the IET, which sets electrical standards, and 90% of what they seem to do with regards to domestic, that's home installations, is invent new ways to test ring mains."

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Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
I saw packages of "fuse wire" you would string between two points. Totally not a fire hazard.

Yeah ring mains are kinda' nutty. At least for low voltage applications like that. I don't think the United States NEC would ever allow that sort of configuration. You can do things like paralleling really big wires for low voltage high current applications but I don't think a ring structure is ever permitted.

PS 1800 watts... Assuming unity power factor!

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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

I always have a sensible chuckle whenever someone from the UK gets smug about their plugs, which have to be like that to compensate for how unsafe everything else is.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Speaking of electrical relics: I still work with a lot of old electromechanical relays (they basically measure electricity and say "HOLY CRAP TURN OFF TURN OFF NOW" to big circuit breakers.) They're all sorta' clockwork.

http://youtu.be/IQ1Fz_l9POs

And for each protective element (overcurrent, phase loss, lockout, ground fault) you need a completely separate relay all working together.

Nowadays they are completely electronic and one box can do tons of different things. They can even record energy like a power meter, talk to a computer network, and record what happened if something goes wrong.

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Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Three-Phase posted:

PS 1800 watts... Assuming unity power factor!

Well yeah, the only thing I ever had approaching 1800 watts was a space heater, and resistive loads are basically always 1, right?


Still, though, I do not understand ring mains. Their purpose, everything. It's all more complicated than a radial/spoke system.

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Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
Yeah that's pretty much it.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!

Three-Phase posted:


Nowadays they are completely electronic and one box can do tons of different things. They can even record energy like a power meter, talk to a computer network, and record what happened if something goes wrong.


Even more importantly, physical I/O wiring between protective devices is a tech relic if a modern (hopefully IP based-) protocol is used.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
I lived in the UK for a year and was baffled by all of the power safety stuff their plugs had. Every outlet in the house had a switch to turn it off at night, every plug had a fuse, and they were really big and rigid.

I just used a cheap plug adapter for my MacBook when I lived there and it didn't have a fuse in it, and it didn't have a real ground prong (it was plastic). I was using it on a switching power supply so I didn't expect any problems but one day while using it on the couch the base of the cable that goes from the power brick to the computer just caught fire out of nowhere.



Apple replaced the power adapter no problem with a proper UK plug.

Then a few days later I spilled chocolate milk all over it and couldn't source a white keyboard so I replaced it with a black one. I called it the tuxedo MacBook.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Having lived in the US for nearly 29 years, I've never had my wires just catch fire.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Cojawfee posted:

Having lived in the US for nearly 29 years, I've never had my wires just catch fire.

Not that you know.

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta

Cojawfee posted:

Having lived in the US for nearly 29 years, I've never had my wires just catch fire.

I have actually. Then again, this house was built in 1930...

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Cojawfee posted:

Having lived in the US for nearly 29 years, I've never had my wires just catch fire.

Amateur.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

revmoo posted:

I have actually. Then again, this house was built in 1930...

My house was built in the 60s... The wiring in my wall caught fire when I was about 16.

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
I haven't had any wires catch fire. I did have a wire, not a large one (12AWG 8kV) that vaporized due to short-circuit current. We found he outer insulation blown apart where the vaporized copper escaped, and the copper nowhere to be seen. It ripped itself off of several sets of tie-wrap anchors in the process too.

Over years corona discharge damaged the high-voltage insulation until it was damaged enough to permit a path to ground.

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TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
It's a fusible link, a safety device, really.

lol

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

TotalLossBrain posted:

It's a fusible link, a safety device, really.

lol

Irony: It was a rather short run between the bus and one of the terminals of a potential (voltage) transformer fuse. That little section wasn't protected. I was told there was a dull bang and then the system tripped offline.

As far as old electrical "tat" goes: here's Photonic Jnduction with a very old, very huge, circuit breaker that he takes apart:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WAhq_A4EbkE

(PS I am not Photonic Induction.)

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90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Cojawfee posted:

Having lived in the US for nearly 29 years, I've never had my wires just catch fire.

Once, I had the AC adapter wire on my laptop's power brick (the one leading from the laptop to the brick) catch fire after it had weakened to the point where it couldn't maintain contact unless it was bent a certain way.

ColoradoCleric
Dec 26, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Sad it's no longer online but does anyone remember itplaysquake.com or itplaysdoom.com?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I had the wire inside my wall, right by the outlet, catch fire. And it was recently installed with new 20A wiring. Turns out it was bent just wrong enough that it cracked the copper and caused a high resistance point, causing heat.

It can just happen.

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
A poo poo-ton of houses/mobile homes built around 1970* had aluminum wiring, which was notorious for expanding/contracting, as aluminum is known for, loosening up, then causing a lovely, high- resistance connection that gets hot and burns poo poo up in the walls.

I had this happen once without major destruction, but gently caress aluminum wire.

*three-phase probably knows the exact years it was used.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


For a internet/Computer tech relic post, I was going through my system and checked my screensavers - lo and behold I still have this in my options from whenever way back. I must have actually paid for it as it's registered!:

Note - not my video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya5OUoW-OSk

Amazingly this thing has worked from WinXP right through upgrades to Win10 and not a single update required to get it working. I just set it for fun and woohoo!

Excuse the mess:



EDIT: If you for some reason do want it - it's from uselesscreations.com - that site itself seems stuck in history.

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Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

JnnyThndrs posted:

A poo poo-ton of houses/mobile homes built around 1970* had aluminum wiring, which was notorious for expanding/contracting, as aluminum is known for, loosening up, then causing a lovely, high- resistance connection that gets hot and burns poo poo up in the walls.

I had this happen once without major destruction, but gently caress aluminum wire.

*three-phase probably knows the exact years it was used.

I thought it was more post-WW2 than the 70s. :shrug:

around '99 everybody had a Matrix screensaver.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Any recommendation on keeping my home safe from burning down from electrical wiring? My house was made in the 1950s so now I am a bit worried. Do people actually bash all their walls down and check the wiring before something happens?

A decent amount of the wiring in my home looks kind of like when a snake sheds; it's got like a kind of silvery covering; not sure what the hell it is called and I am also not sure if it's the "bad kind".

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Any recommendation on keeping my home safe from burning down from electrical wiring? My house was made in the 1950s so now I am a bit worried. Do people actually bash all their walls down and check the wiring before something happens?

uh hire an electrician to inspect the wiring maybe?

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS

Three-Phase posted:

I thought it was more post-WW2 than the 70s. :shrug:

My first house was built in 1970 and had it, but none of my later, older houses did. :shrug:

Wikipedia says "In North American residential construction, aluminum wire was used to wire entire houses for a short time from the late 1960s to the late 1970s during a period of high copper prices."

But I've not seen it past 1975, personally.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Quote-Unquote posted:

uh hire an electrician to inspect the wiring maybe?

uh I am trying to learn what to look for in my own home and before anything happens in the future maybe?

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Uncle at Nintendo posted:

uh I am trying to learn what to look for in my own home and before anything happens in the future maybe?

okay i'll revise my answer: hire an electrician to inspect the wiring and tell you what needs fixing/improving before anything happens in the future

Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"

doctorfrog posted:

This thread has recently taught me to:
  • not feel bad that I've "only" bothered to emulate the 8-16 bit Nintendo consoles of my childhood on a RetroPie, because N64, PSX, DS, etc. aren't too good on it
  • not to ever get rid of my N64 and games, good god
  • feel so-so that I never got a PSP because it seems like a hella tight pocket emulator machine

Psx and n64 run fine on RetroPie though? Unless you have an older one?

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

Uncle at Nintendo posted:

Any recommendation on keeping my home safe from burning down from electrical wiring? My house was made in the 1950s so now I am a bit worried. Do people actually bash all their walls down and check the wiring before something happens?

A decent amount of the wiring in my home looks kind of like when a snake sheds; it's got like a kind of silvery covering; not sure what the hell it is called and I am also not sure if it's the "bad kind".

Your home is wired with serpents. Good news is they carry magical energy instead of electrical. Bad news is medical science cannot heal mana burns.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Mechanism Eight posted:

I raise a Zaurus port. All the joys of lovely PDA Quake but now with Linux!

I worked on the UI for those things (QtEmbedded/QTopia) :shobon: Pretty fun hardware for its day, really.

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Hell Gem

Cojawfee posted:

Having lived in the US for nearly 29 years, I've never had my wires just catch fire.

I had a lovely MicroUSB cable charging my waterproof bluetooth speaker (UE Boom 2) catch fire the other day. I don't know if it was because the charger port was wet which it could of been, or if it was just that the worlds shittiest thinnest cable I found under my bed one day couldn't handle the two amp charger or what. Completely fried the charging port on my $200 speaker, but Logitech is awesome and sent me a new one. I didn't admit to using some questionable cable though.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Germstore posted:

Your home is wired with serpents. Good news is they carry magical energy instead of electrical. Bad news is medical science cannot heal mana burns.

I'm sure there's some sort of Egyptian salve I can use

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nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

feedmegin posted:

I worked on the UI for those things (QtEmbedded/QTopia) :shobon: Pretty fun hardware for its day, really.

i found a video of an sl-c1000 emulating gba pretty much perfectly, which i definitely tried to do on my ipod in like 2009 and it couldn't do it fullspeed with sound. that's pretty impressive. did quake actually run playable and did it have 3d hardware or was it software rendered?

also navy seals psp really is not smooth or fun to control even if the framerate is technically better than the 3ds lol. but there are so many different engines that might just be the issue. i think its powerful enough but i swear to god if i find another engine with hard coded camera controls that you can't fix with console commands i am going to scream

shout out to masterfeizz for his 3ds quake port because ive been unironically using it as a dev baseline and its not a pain to use, christ

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