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CLAM DOWN posted:Sorry, has the release N version for the 6P been delayed? I'm not in the beta program and I'd rather not wipe at this point to unlock my bootloader (for a manual flash). ilkhan posted:My 6P went from M to release N when I signed up for the beta program on release day.
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Sep 7, 2016 18:18
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ThermoPhysical posted:The factory images for the 6P and 6 aren't up and the only devices that have the actual non-DP to RTM OTA are 5X and Pixel, I believe. https://twitter.com/googlenexus/status/773227739067342853
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Sep 7, 2016 18:19
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My wife's got a G3 that someone gave for free. Today she took it in her bag and noticed it was off unexpectedly. When you try and power it on, the LG logo display for a but then you just get a black screen. Was working fine up until this point. Has anyone encountered this by any chance? I can't work out if the hardware's just hosed and I should stop messing about trying to get it to work.
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Sep 7, 2016 19:48
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I'm swapping my new S7 for a Moto Z because I'm an idiot. Any word on if third parties are gonna start making cosmetic shells for it? Moto's selection is incredibly disappointing after the magic of Moto Maker for the X.
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Sep 7, 2016 19:48
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They've been saying that the past two weeks though. I don't think anyone on M has gotten the N OTA yet.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:02
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Just put your phone in the beta program, you get the OTA straight away and then you can un-enrol it.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:03
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ThermoPhysical posted:They've been saying that the past two weeks though. I don't think anyone on M has gotten the N OTA yet. Right, but that's a little different from "characteristically silent". I mean, how would we knowfor sure if "anyone" has gotten the N OTA.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:04
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chippy posted:Just put your phone in the beta program, you get the OTA straight away and then you can un-enrol it. This doesn't have any consequences like wiping it or something silly? I've never participated in the betas before.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:28
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The Gunslinger posted:This doesn't have any consequences like wiping it or something silly? I've never participated in the betas before. If you're on a preview build, it would wipe it when you left it and went back to a mainstream build. But if you do it at the moment, you'll get the release version of Nougat and nothing will happen when you leave. I did it on mine, nothing happened when I left the preview program. The OTA did fail to install the first time, but it didn't cause any issues, I got the prompt again about 12 hours later and it worked perfectly. e: You enrol here: https://www.google.com/android/beta
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Sep 7, 2016 20:31
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The Merkinman posted:One of the largest holdouts, Chase, is now supported in Android Pay. What's the benefit to doing this again? So I can awkwardly try to get it to work, holding everyone in line up, just so I don't have to insert? Oh, and examine the payment terminal to see if it has an nfc reader, then hope it's activated?
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Sep 7, 2016 20:47
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Some people like contactless payments. Get over it.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:51
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RZA Encryption posted:What's the benefit to doing this again? So I can awkwardly try to get it to work, holding everyone in line up, just so I don't have to insert? Honestly most terminals don't support it, but on those that do it's been my experience that it's always faster than inserting the new chipcards.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:54
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RZA Encryption posted:What's the benefit to doing this again? So I can awkwardly try to get it to work, holding everyone in line up, just so I don't have to insert? You don't look like an asshat when you swipe your card instead of sticking it in the chipreader or vice versa?
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Sep 7, 2016 20:54
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It's extremely fast and painless every time I get the chance to use it, it's just that it's almost never supported at the places I go.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:56
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RZA Encryption posted:What's the benefit to doing this again? So I can awkwardly try to get it to work, holding everyone in line up, just so I don't have to insert? I haven't used it all that recently but NFC payment isn't any slower than the ol' swipe or the not-so-ol' insert chip. You whip out your phone while ringing up, put your PIN in to make it ready for payment, and then waggle it by the receiver. It registers the payment, the cashier does their part, and then you take your receipt and leave. Does the new stuff make you out your pin in the terminal or do you still do it on your phone?
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chippy posted:If you're on a preview build, it would wipe it when you left it and went back to a mainstream build. But if you do it at the moment, you'll get the release version of Nougat and nothing will happen when you leave. I did it on mine, nothing happened when I left the preview program. The OTA did fail to install the first time, but it didn't cause any issues, I got the prompt again about 12 hours later and it worked perfectly. Ok I will give it a whirl, thanks for taking the time to write that up.
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Sep 7, 2016 20:59
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FAUXTON posted:I haven't used it all that recently but NFC payment isn't any slower than the ol' swipe or the not-so-ol' insert chip. You whip out your phone while ringing up, put your PIN in to make it ready for payment, and then waggle it by the receiver. It registers the payment, the cashier does their part, and then you take your receipt and leave. Actually the hardest part of it was verifying the cards for Android Pay with the bank. Both cards I had to call in, my debit card I had to talk to a person and be on hold a while; my credit card I had to try several times to spell out a security code to the robot answering the call.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:04
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Android Pay still doesn't work very well with Smart Unlock. Unless you've unlocked with a PIN recently, it will fail payment with no real feedback. Real PITA with Android wear. I have to take my phone out, wake it up, forcibly lock it from the lock screen, unlock and enter PIN, THEN it will work. If I just pull it from my pocket and have it launch Android Pay on its own, the payment tries to process and just fails.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:09
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bull3964 posted:Android Pay still doesn't work very well with Smart Unlock. Unless you've unlocked with a PIN recently, it will fail payment with no real feedback. Real PITA with Android wear. I have to take my phone out, wake it up, forcibly lock it from the lock screen, unlock and enter PIN, THEN it will work. If I just pull it from my pocket and have it launch Android Pay on its own, the payment tries to process and just fails. This doesn't sound convenient.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:17
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bull3964 posted:Android Pay still doesn't work very well with Smart Unlock. Unless you've unlocked with a PIN recently, it will fail payment with no real feedback. Real PITA with Android wear. I have to take my phone out, wake it up, forcibly lock it from the lock screen, unlock and enter PIN, THEN it will work. If I just pull it from my pocket and have it launch Android Pay on its own, the payment tries to process and just fails. For me or will generally ask for me to enter my code after I try to pay, I enter it, and the second time it works.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:27
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We don't have Android Pay in Canada yet, even though I'm seeing more and more terminals with the android pay icon. I have a buddy who uses the RBC contactless payment app all the time, according to him it's only inconvenient when the cashier doesn't understand what you're doing and accuses you of not paying and/or hacking their terminal.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:31
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It's pretty cool at Walgreens since you can enter your customer loyalty card at the same time you are paying. The time I used that the cashier was super impressed.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:34
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Hungry Computer posted:We don't have Android Pay in Canada yet, even though I'm seeing more and more terminals with the android pay icon. I have a buddy who uses the RBC contactless payment app all the time, according to him it's only inconvenient when the cashier doesn't understand what you're doing and accuses you of not paying and/or hacking their terminal. No Samsung Pay either, the banks are probably resisting it.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:36
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RZA Encryption posted:What's the benefit to doing this again? So I can awkwardly try to get it to work, holding everyone in line up, just so I don't have to insert?
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Sep 7, 2016 21:44
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Shouldn't Samsung pay work via MST even if the POS isn't NFC compatible? I wish Android pay supported MST.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:46
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Nitrousoxide posted:It's pretty cool at Walgreens since you can enter your customer loyalty card at the same time you are paying. The time I used that the cashier was super impressed. That's cool, but I'll just stick to using my ex's phone number
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Sep 7, 2016 21:49
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RZA Encryption posted:What's the benefit to doing this again? So I can awkwardly try to get it to work, holding everyone in line up, just so I don't have to insert? I have a Note5, and one of the nice features of it is that ~*~*Samsung pay*~*~ works with old terminals via a magnetic signal the phone can produce.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:51
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Nitrousoxide posted:Shouldn't Samsung pay work via MST even if the POS isn't NFC compatible? Yeah, it's a pretty killer feature, once your country has it (rip canada).
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Nitrousoxide posted:For me or will generally ask for me to enter my code after I try to pay, I enter it, and the second time it works. Doesn't for me. It never asks for a PIN and just fails.
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I haven't been keeping up with the phone market much lately, what would be a good replacement for a Note 4 other than the Note 7 with a non-exploding battery? Is there anything out there that's clearly superior to the Note? From what I saw the Note 7 didn't receive as good of a review as some of the previous models have. Alternatively I could keep the Note 4 but I can't find anyone willing to replace my broken screen glass without a $250 unneeded replacement of the entire screen. Is the glass replacement pretty easy to do?
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CLAM DOWN posted:Yeah, it's a pretty killer feature, once your country has it (rip canada). 2016... sometime in 2016.
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ratbert90 posted:I have a Note5, and one of the nice features of it is that ~*~*Samsung pay*~*~ works with old terminals via a magnetic signal the phone can produce. I've never looked into the security of it, but "phone blasting out card's magstripe data" seems terrifying.
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RZA Encryption posted:I've never looked into the security of it, but "phone blasting out card's magstripe data" seems terrifying. It uses tokenization, so it's not really blasting out your card's actual magstripe data.
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RZA Encryption posted:I've never looked into the security of it, but "phone blasting out card's magstripe data" seems terrifying. It's no less secure than NFC, uses the same token system. e:fb
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Sep 7, 2016 22:57
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Yeah it's actually more secure since when home depo or whatever gets inevitability hacked all they've taken is that one time use number.
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chippy posted:My wife's got a G3 that someone gave for free. Today she took it in her bag and noticed it was off unexpectedly. When you try and power it on, the LG logo display for a but then you just get a black screen. Was working fine up until this point. Has anyone encountered this by any chance? I can't work out if the hardware's just hosed and I should stop messing about trying to get it to work. This got lost in the Pay stuff. My wife's G3 just started failing last week, too, actually. For her it is actually the screen--the phone isn't off, but it's hard to tell. The screen will come on now and then for a bit, but unreliably and for short spans. The touch sensitivity still works, as do actual phone processes, it just displays nothing. A search online revealed large threads showing that this is a known issue with the G3. Consensus there seems to be it's some motherboard fault. Not sure if it's the same issue you have, but it seemed possible from your explanation. We wrote it off as dead. Thankfully, like you, we got it cheap from a friend.
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Suppose there was a sudden and compelling reason to swap from an iphone to an android device, going from one to the other is just a matter of file transfer then moving over the sim cards, correct? Asking for a friend and that friend is me.
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Are you talking about a PIN to unlock the phone or a PIN associated with the card? I've never had to interact with the phone or the terminal in any way other than unlocking the phone before waving it at the NFC. Used both debit and credit cards. If you've got a fingerprint reader for the unlock it really does feel like one of those magical future technologies to me. Phone PIN. I think I remember the Android Pay app makes you use something other than swipe-to-unlock, too, but I've always used a PIN on my phone and I might be recalling stdh. The Wallet app had a separate PIN iirc and that had to be open (not just the phone being unlocked) but the Pay app doesn't need to be open unless you want to change the card you're paying with. My local bank debit card doesn't support it but my CC does since that's through Capital One. I got a new job a while back and have been able to just use my debit card to buy poo poo I would have otherwise paid off over a few months previously so it's been a while since I paid by NFC.
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FAUXTON posted:Phone PIN. I think I remember the Android Pay app makes you use something other than swipe-to-unlock, too, but I've always used a PIN on my phone and I might be recalling stdh. The Wallet app had a separate PIN iirc and that had to be open (not just the phone being unlocked) but the Pay app doesn't need to be open unless you want to change the card you're paying with. My local bank debit card doesn't support it but my CC does since that's through Capital One. I got a new job a while back and have been able to just use my debit card to buy poo poo I would have otherwise paid off over a few months previously so it's been a while since I paid by NFC. The few times that I've used Android Pay the terminal made me put in a PIN.
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