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straight up brolic posted:Take their oil was a really, really phenomenally dumb answer somehow not the dumbest thing he said GreyjoyBastard posted:Hillary's Twitter staff - assuming they are not, in fact, the Dread Abuela herself - need a raise. i think i am going to start using this term
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Sep 8, 2016 02:49
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After well over a decade of people criticizing the idea of the government going to war for oil, Trump directly endorsing the idea of using war to get oil is a pretty spectacular brand of idiocy.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:50
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Mister Olympus posted:President Clinton will personally rip out each Republican congressman's throat and poo poo directly down it, and I cannot be more excited I wish I were so certain of this. She should do this, and I hope she does. But Obama was too ready on compromise from the get-go, and even though he's been a pretty good president, I want Clinton to have learned from his mistakes.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:50
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Hillary's Twitter staff - assuming they are not, in fact, the Dread Abuela herself - need a raise. Four years from now, My Lady of Pain will start off a State of the Union where we see her trolling Republicans in real time on twitter, sending the tweet itself, before beginning to speak.
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OGreyjoyBastard posted:Hillary's Twitter staff - assuming they are not, in fact, the Dread Abuela herself - need a raise. Only the ones signed -H are her
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Sep 8, 2016 02:51
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Augus posted:After well over a decade of people criticizing the idea of the government going to war for oil, Trump directly endorsing the idea of using war to get oil is a pretty spectacular brand of idiocy. b-b-but that oil will go directly into my car and my gas bills won't be so high anymore, right?!  (even though gas is cheap as poo poo right now)
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Sep 8, 2016 02:51
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Majorian posted:b-b-but that oil will go directly into my car and my gas bills won't be so high anymore, right?! someone in my facebook was going on about gas prices under obummer and i just sort of blinked
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Sep 8, 2016 02:53
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Majorian posted:I wish I were so certain of this. She should do this, and I hope she does. But Obama was too ready on compromise from the get-go, and even though he's been a pretty good president, I want Clinton to have learned from his mistakes. That's probably where the "inexperience" flaw hit hardest, he assumed the GOP could be reasoned with like actual human beings and not lich-kings sitting on thrones of golden doubloons. Hillary has no such illusions, however, she and the GOP loving hate each-other a whole bunch.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:54
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:someone in my facebook was going on about gas prices under obummer and i just sort of blinked You have two plays: the odummer oil/economy lever or actual gas prices over time. Either one will lead to a block worthy response.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:55
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WampaLord posted:They also love being corrected about minor details. Especially when they were right and the person "correcting" them was wrong
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Sep 8, 2016 02:56
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Yinlock posted:That's probably where the "inexperience" flaw hit hardest, he assumed the GOP could be reasoned with like actual human beings and not lich-kings sitting on thrones of golden doubloons. Yeah, but still, her husband's record in the 90's doesn't instill confidence. Obviously I understand she's not her husband, but still. I'll be reassured when I see it happen.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:57
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Majorian posted:I wish I were so certain of this. She should do this, and I hope she does. But Obama was too ready on compromise from the get-go, and even though he's been a pretty good president, I want Clinton to have learned from his mistakes. Just as a note, Obama actually campaigned on bipartisanship and getting along, while Clinton hasn't or at least hasn't to the extent that Obama did. I remember vividly so many times in his stump speeches in 2008 when he said republicans have their own ideas and we should listen and work with them. Hillary hates republicans and that is good I think.
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Yinlock posted:That's probably where the "inexperience" flaw hit hardest, he assumed the GOP could be reasoned with like actual human beings and not lich-kings sitting on thrones of golden doubloons. "what enemy are you most proud of making?" "republicans."
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:someone in my facebook was going on about gas prices under obummer and i just sort of blinked Well it's all his fault, because he didn't let Keystone happen and won't drill baby drill, what's so complicated about that?!
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Majorian posted:Yeah, but still, her husband's record in the 90's doesn't instill confidence. Obviously I understand she's not her husband, but still. I'll be reassured when I see it happen. It's also not 1992. God drat. This idea that she's going to suddenly become a Third Way President is loving garbage.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:58
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Abisteen posted:Just as a note, Obama actually campaigned on bipartisanship and getting along, while Clinton hasn't or at least hasn't to the extent that Obama did. I remember vividly so many times in his stump speeches in 2008 when he said republicans have their own ideas and we should listen and work with them. Yeah but she's actually a secret uber Republican, even more conservative than Cruz. Don't fall for her tricks.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:59
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This cohost on Rachel Maddow keeps saying "we" as if he spoke for all veterans. He also just completely sidebarred a retired Colonel's excellent points about topics and questions that drive to the heart of understanding what the military's purpose is in foreign policy by relating it to inane bullshit about "Yeah, and why hasn't he been asked why doesn't HE serve, or why don't his KIDS serve. That's what WE want to know". gently caress that guy.
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Sep 8, 2016 02:59
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Lemming posted:Especially when they were right and the person "correcting" them was wrong MSNBC just asked her how she felt about the way Trump answered her question and she seemed a bit mad about it along with the way he was Otherizing veterans
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Yinlock posted:That's probably where the "inexperience" flaw hit hardest, he assumed the GOP could be reasoned with like actual human beings and not lich-kings sitting on thrones of golden doubloons. On the other hand, you could argue that Obama learned early on that the GOP was not to be reasoned with, and has since been framing himself as the reasonable actor and the GOP as mindless, counterproductive obstructionists. He built the narrative that the GOP will burn the country down to spite the Democrats/the black person in the white house, and we should give him credit for that. He couldn't have done it without "playing dumb," so to speak.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:00
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straight up brolic posted:Take their oil was a really, really phenomenally dumb answer Wasn't his first ad literally saying he would destroy Isis and take their oil.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:00
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WampaLord posted:It's also not 1992. It's not exactly a baseless concern. I don't thinks she's going to turn Third Way, but I would like to feel more certain.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:02
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WampaLord posted:It's also not 1992. I do wonder if this is just reflexive anti-Clinton feelings from RWM/white culture that just establish themselves in unique ways. Sort of like how ancient people would see a meteor and then conclude that their God was obviously the one that caused it.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:02
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Crowsbeak posted:Wasn't his first ad literally saying he would destroy Isis and take their oil. It was "bomb the hell out of ISIS, and take their oil" if I recall correctly.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:03
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Majorian posted:Yeah, but still, her husband's record in the 90's doesn't instill confidence. Obviously I understand she's not her husband, but still. I'll be reassured when I see it happen. The thing about the Clinton's record in the 90's, and what i'm starting to hate about "politicians Flip Flopping" is that Politicians are just people and people can change. For example Hillary did vote for the Iraq war. It's established fact at this point the Bush Administration lied to everyone about the justification can't fault Hillary for agreeing to something she was lied to about. Another one is her support for gay marriage. There is that quote going around about her saying she didn't support gay marriage int he 90s. In 1996, Gallop said only 27 percent of people supported gay marriage. http://www.gallup.com/poll/117328/marriage.aspx The LGBT rights movement is all about changing peoples minds about how we deserve rights and we got her to change her mind. That's a win for LGBT people.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:03
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Crowsbeak posted:Wasn't his first ad literally saying he would destroy Isis and take their oil. That was one of the more surreal moments in politics ever. It was that moment where we all realized yes, this is a thing that is actually happening, and there is nothing we can do to stop it.
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computer parts posted:I do wonder if this is just reflexive anti-Clinton feelings from RWM/white culture that just establish themselves in unique ways. What does white culture have to do with this? BigRed0427 posted:The thing about the Clinton's record in the 90's, and what i'm starting to hate about "politicians Flip Flopping" is that Politicians are just people and people can change.  , and I mostly believe this is the case with Clinton. I'm getting there, don't worry.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:04
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rscott posted:MSNBC just asked her how she felt about the way Trump answered her question and she seemed a bit mad about it along with the way he was Otherizing veterans Nice. I am very pleased with how tonight went. Not only was Trump awful at everything but he had a few terrible soundbytes. The Take Their Oil, the Putin tongue bath, the Rape Tweet, the Rubbish Generals, and the outright lie about not supporting the Iraq War. Tonight is a good night.
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He has been saying it all year, and Anderson Cooper was bringing up the details from when he pressed trump on. "Bring in American companies like Chevron, build army secured bases around the oil fields, and then pump em till they're dry"
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Mineaiki posted:On the other hand, you could argue that Obama learned early on that the GOP was not to be reasoned with, and has since been framing himself as the reasonable actor and the GOP as mindless, counterproductive obstructionists. He built the narrative that the GOP will burn the country down to spite the Democrats/the black person in the white house, and we should give him credit for that. He couldn't have done it without "playing dumb," so to speak. To be fair that's the easiest narrative in the world to establish when the GOP is currently burning down the country to spite the black person in the white house
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Sep 8, 2016 03:05
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She hasn't offered them ANYTHING, you idiot. She voted 93% in line with Sanders, what the gently caress are you on about?
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Sep 8, 2016 03:05
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Majorian posted:What does white culture have to do with this? THe whole Militia moment started when Clinton was President.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:05
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WampaLord posted:She hasn't offered them ANYTHING, you idiot. That was a weirdly aggressive response. 
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Sep 8, 2016 03:05
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WampaLord posted:She hasn't offered them ANYTHING, you idiot. They're just the tea partiers of the left. Who cares if no policy gets passed, we have to do it with no Republican support!
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Sep 8, 2016 03:06
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BigRed0427 posted:THe whole Militia moment started when Clinton was President. And a very large number of young white people - progressive or otherwise - seem to have conservative parents, so they would pick up on the rhetoric. Quite literally, being anti-Hillary is part of white culture. computer parts fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 03:06
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Majorian posted:That was a weirdly aggressive response. Your gimmick of "I'm gonna vote Hillary but I'm terrified she's a secret Republican" is played out and irksome. I needed to use Shock and Awe tactics. It is a hawk joke.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:07
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Boon posted:This cohost on Rachel Maddow keeps saying "we" as if he spoke for all veterans. What were the Colonel's points? I don't have a stream on.
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Sep 8, 2016 03:07
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WampaLord posted:Your gimmick of "I'm gonna vote Hillary but I'm terrified she's a secret Republican" is played out and irksome. I needed to use Shock and Awe tactics. You had to  the poster to save the poster?
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BigRed0427 posted:THe whole Militia moment started when Clinton was President. computer parts posted:And a very large number of young white people - progressive or otherwise - seem to have conservative parents, so they would pick up on the rhetoric. Got it, that makes sense. Yeah, I think the fact that Clinton was so frequently portrayed as some sort of eminence grise behind her husband didn't help. It made her seem more amoral than she really is.
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Majorian posted:That was a weirdly aggressive response. Sorry your dump post got called out.
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