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ErIog posted:The way Donald Trump groups people into categories is very creepy. He kept saying, "the vets," over and over again tonight. "The blacks," "the Mexicans," etc etc. It's because he's incredibly out-of-touch and hasn't met any of them, so they're abstract concepts to him.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/773715636950298625 Powell has a history of being a lying sack of poo poo, so it's not unexpected.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Main headline on CNN is a giant "Trump defends tweet on military sex assault" with a giant rear end photo. Don't want this as the last post on the page.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Main headline on CNN is a giant "Trump defends tweet on military sex assault" with a giant rear end photo. Yeah... Hillary didn't do as well as I would have liked, no doubt, but Trump royally screwed the pooch on that one. Like Hillary's emails are a total known quantity at this point. Bringing up an old tweet? While Lauer loving put basketballs on a tee the entire time, that question was good.
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Sep 8, 2016 04:09
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We'll see if it becomes a news cycle or not. His loving Nuremberg immigration speech was covered for like 16 hours
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Sep 8, 2016 04:11
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Main headline on CNN is a giant "Trump defends tweet on military sex assault" with a giant rear end photo.  I wasn't looking forward to the debates that much before tonight. Now, hoooooly God.
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Sep 8, 2016 04:18
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Anyone have a gif of the GOP veteran's look of exasperation at Trump attempting to correct her on the number of veteran suicides?
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Sep 8, 2016 04:19
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https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/773721763716993024 I hope Lauer gets laughed off tv. There's some serious backlash brewing.
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Sep 8, 2016 04:21
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William F Cuckley posted:Powell has a history of being a lying sack of poo poo, so it's not unexpected. He also has a history of being more responsible for Iraq fuckery than Clinton but we are morons so
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Sep 8, 2016 04:21
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/773721763716993024 Wait did Lauer really say that?
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Majorian posted:This is pretty much a perfect summation of what's wrong with contemporary political science. It's the height of hubris to think that one can look at politics in any way, shape, or form with objectivity, much less distill it into data. Lol so you don't believe in polling? You don't believe political messaging studies are valid? Do you think humans are too complex to science? Or did you just read the zeizik wiki and are trying to make some point about lack of ideology? Because I'm an non-positivist and pro-qualitative science persona and all, but your post veers close to an anti-science post.
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ImpAtom posted:Wait did Lauer really say that? Yes
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/773721763716993024 That one piece about 'poo poo if this is how journalists run it Trump could win' will hopefully knock some of the dumb bastards out of their haze. I think a lot of them are doing what they're doing because they don't even consider the possibility of a Trump victory and don't realize they're even doing harm.
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Mother Base has an Venom Snake posted:papa snake would have been v upset if I brought up Edward B Balls. but iv got a trip report: Venom Snake posted:he kept trying to interrupt her and she kept telling him to get bent. afterwards he complained loudly about not getting enough questions in and how clinton was being to angry and aggressive and trying to walk all over him. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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I wonder how this will get edited in the coming days lol quote:On body language, the two diverged, too. Mrs. Clinton was far more likely to look audience members in the eye, nod along as they expressed concern or curiosity, and give relatively direct if sometimes uncomfortable answers. Mr. Trump came off as more relaxed but also far lighter on details, and was seldom pressed by Mr. Lauer or the veterans. A classic Trump moment.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/773715636950298625 Hagiography aside lets not forget that Powell's first time on the national stage was saying there was no evidence of War Crimes at Mai Lai. Hes done a lot of great stuff, but he is very much a political animal and a Republican operative.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Nice. Hillary ran ads of terrible Trump soundbytes basically unopposed during the Olympics and Trump cut her lead in half. Why should I be confident at all that people are going to respond positively to a different set of them? Trump has been completely normalized by the media and no one gives a poo poo about anything that he says anymore, and Hillary flooding the airwaves with it might just make annoyed people vote against her out of spite.
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol so you don't believe in polling? I do, I'm talking more about endless data regressions to see if the President of Iran is the fifteenth or sixteenth most-powerful person in the Iranian government. This was literally something I had to do in my Ph.D program.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Hillary ran ads of terrible Trump soundbytes basically unopposed during the Olympics and Trump cut her lead in half. Why should I be confident at all that people are going to respond positively to a different set of them? Trump has been completely normalized by the media and no one gives a poo poo about anything that he says anymore, and Hillary flooding the airwaves with it might just make annoyed people vote against her out of spite. e: Also man if they nearly walked out of THIS, does that mean Trump might storm off mid debate in another one? I mean I'm sure the NYT will suck his dick for being so brave as to do so. Nessus fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol so you don't believe in polling? You don't believe political messaging studies are valid? Do you think humans are too complex to science? Or did you just read the zeizik wiki and are trying to make some point about lack of ideology? There's really nothing scientific that takes place in polling. They can, at best, only reveal this pre-conceived notion that people vote with called ideology.
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Geostomp posted:Yup. There was never any real danger of a Trump presidency, but that wasn't ever the point. Right. Dr.Zeppelin posted:Hillary ran ads of terrible Trump soundbytes basically unopposed during the Olympics and Trump cut her lead in half.
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Hillary ran ads of terrible Trump soundbytes basically unopposed during the Olympics and Trump cut her lead in half. Why should I be confident at all that people are going to respond positively to a different set of them? Trump has been completely normalized by the media and no one gives a poo poo about anything that he says anymore, and Hillary flooding the airwaves with it might just make annoyed people vote against her out of spite. I think that's coming to an end for two reasons: 1. Hillary has opened up to the press. 2. Matt Lauer is getting eaten alive right now for softballing Trump the way he did.
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iospace posted:I think that's coming to an end for two reasons: 1. Hillary has opened up to the press. 2. Matt Lauer is getting eaten alive right now for softballing Trump the way he did. I wonder how much of the backlash is related to them not wanting to get shut out again because this makes them all look really loving bad? It's not like they actually give a drat. If that were the case pretty much everything about everybody's coverage of everything would've been wildly different since last July
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https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/773721048923508737 the commentariat is not happy
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They might also be realizing that Trump is a slightly less X-rated version of Todd from Achewood.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:There's really nothing scientific that takes place in polling. They can, at best, only reveal this pre-conceived notion that people vote with called ideology. There's a lot of well verified scientific claims that can be backed by polling. They just are a lot less exciting than even Nate wants. Things like basic demographic are well established voting indicators, but not exciting ones. Majorian posted:I do, I'm talking more about endless data regressions to see if the President of Iran is the fifteenth or sixteenth most-powerful person in the Iranian government. That does sound like the usual academic sophistry, condolences. Retraction watch is amazing to read and consider the sub-implications when some lab pulls 5 papers because they never checked their cell lines or whatever. The number of hours of labwork wasted and misplaced efforts. Or the numbers on pediatric medical studies that never are completed or published is disturbing.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/773721048923508737 Well, lets see if it is in the new version Dr.Zeppelin posted:oh my god they're doing it AGAIN quote:Mr. Trump also reiterated his praise for Vladimir V. Putin, Russia’s president, and argued that there was no evidence Russia had a hand in hacking the Democratic National Committee.
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Trabisnikof posted:That does sound like the usual academic sophistry, condolences. Retraction watch is amazing to read and consider the sub-implications when some lab pulls 5 papers because they never checked their cell lines or whatever. The number of hours of labwork wasted and misplaced efforts. I'll do that; I could always use a reminder of why I stopped and got a job after a year. 
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iospace posted:I think that's coming to an end for two reasons: 1. Hillary has opened up to the press. 2. Matt Lauer is getting eaten alive right now for softballing Trump the way he did. The media is more likely to react to this by retaliating against Hillary for daring to go after one of their own. Look at all of the "both sides did equally well/badly" equivocating that went on afterwards. Bothsidesism is pathological and there's no way they're gonna give it up just because Ryan Lochte Interview Guy got torn up.
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Trabisnikof posted:Here's your answer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clyde_Haberman I think the heroes hounding her on Twitter should know she's a legacy brat. Good context, she's probably been coasting on her father's rep her whole career. I imagine that's not uncommon in journalism, and most of the legacy brats are pale shadows of their parents.
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The Glumslinger posted:Well, lets see if it is in the new version There's even less mention of Putin in the new version!
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Sep 8, 2016 04:49
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Majorian posted:Yeah, but still, her husband's record in the 90's doesn't instill confidence. Obviously I understand she's not her husband, but still. I'll be reassured when I see it happen. Literally stop this. No more "but still" weaselly sexist-but-don't-call-me-that bullshit. Mrs. William Jefferson Clinton isn't running for president, Hillary Rodham is. She is her own person and always has been, because women are people.
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Moatman posted:There's even less mention of Putin in the new version!
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:The media is more likely to react to this by retaliating against Hillary for daring to go after one of their own. ahahah bullshit. I don't know much about journalism but from what I do know its that journalists love tearing eachother down more than anyone else. No one outside of NBC is going to come to Lauer's defense and they certainly won't be inspired by him. Lol like there's any comradory there anymore, they will tear eachother apart just for the privilege of being pissed on by someone important. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:ahahah bullshit. I don't know much about journalism but from what I do know its that journalists love tearing eachother down more than anyone else. No one outside of NBC is going to come to Lauer's defense and they certainly won't be inspired by him. Even most NBC people are going "yikes"
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:The media is more likely to react to this by retaliating against Hillary for daring to go after one of their own. Look at all of the "both sides did equally well/badly" equivocating that went on afterwards. Reading Journo Twitter, it's quite clear that they knew Lauer blew it.
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Trabisnikof posted:There's a lot of well verified scientific claims that can be backed by polling. They just are a lot less exciting than even Nate wants. Things like basic demographic are well established voting indicators, but not exciting ones. That's an abuse of the word. It's too easy to obfuscate the results for election polling, and rarely do they fall under the same rigor that conference papers or journals do. There was a huge scandal awhile back when some kid from UCLA got caught fixing data.
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