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Athrawes (the guy on B&C building that won the auction) painted him up pretty quickly:
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It's insane this happened, but man - he did it justice.
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adamantium|wang posted:Athrawes (the guy on B&C building that won the auction) painted him up pretty quickly: Hot drat that is pretty sexy for a dirty space wizard
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Sep 6, 2016 08:21
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How much did he end up shelling out for it?
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Sep 6, 2016 08:40
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$US99  e: plus $20 shipping
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Sep 6, 2016 08:43
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Thats not too bad, all things considered.
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Sep 6, 2016 08:45
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Cheaper than I thought it would be.
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Sep 6, 2016 08:52
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adamantium|wang posted:Athrawes (the guy on B&C building that won the auction) painted him up pretty quickly: That's rad. Totally sweet mini.
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Sep 6, 2016 15:57
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I'm surprised the auction completed without GW legal apparating and gutting someone.
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Quick question, is 3x 20 man tactical squads and 2x 10 man support squads a good basis? Will I need more ? This is for Word Bearers and I'd like to be able to play 3k point games with my friends.
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ijyt posted:Quick question, is 3x 20 man tactical squads and 2x 10 man support squads a good basis? Will I need more ? This is for Word Bearers and I'd like to be able to play 3k point games with my friends. Tac squads are garbage.
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Sep 6, 2016 19:36
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DJ Dizzy posted:Tac squads are garbage. Care to say why? Just saying something sucks without saying why isn't really helpful at all, and I figure 2x blocks of 20 dudes with apothecaries will be hard to shift.
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Sep 6, 2016 19:47
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DJ Dizzy posted:Tac squads are garbage. Aren't they the main scoring unit? Would it help if I replace "Word Bearers" with "Loyalist Pansies"
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SRM posted:Care to say why? Just saying something sucks without saying why isn't really helpful at all, and I figure 2x blocks of 20 dudes with apothecaries will be hard to shift. Agree wholeheartedly. Tactical Squads are by and large a tax unit that are very limited in what they can do. Aside from the sergeant you basically have the choice of either bolters for every body or switching that out for another CCQ weapons. They're usually run as blob that sits in the backfield that holds objectives , usually a good idea to stick them with apothecary with an augury scanner for FnP and Interceptor. Alternatively, you can run them as 10man squads in Rhinos so that you have some mobile objective grabbers. Most legions run them in big squads because morale is far more important in 30k due to the lack ATSKNF. As a Word Bearer player you can get away with running 10 man squads since they have better morale than a lot of other Legions, thought at that point it's better to run Veterans using Pride of the Legion, as they'll have way more tactical flexibility. I also feel people underestimate the power of Fury of the Legion. That's my 2 cents anyway.
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So 3 ten man squads should do me? I'm just asking as I want to get some calth marines from eBay while they're still cheap but don't want to overbuy.  e: I don't mind want they're run as just want to have an idea of how many bodies I need. It's a bit tough as I don't know anything about the force org for 30k and if I can ran them as vets instead of tac marines that's fine. e2: vvv Ok, I'll get another two sprues, don't want too much to build and paint and get burned out again. ijyt fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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ijyt posted:So 3 ten man squads should do me? I'm just asking as I want to get some calth marines from eBay while they're still cheap but don't want to overbuy. I get ya. My lists as WB player usually wobble been 30-40ish Marines. I'm usually running them as Vets but I also magnetized them (the Calth minis are perfect for this) to switch to regular 10man squads if I need to.
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TTerrible posted:I'm surprised the auction completed without GW legal apparating and gutting someone. Take this with a pinch of salt if you will, but I know someone who worked at GW HQ for some time, and and she immediately recognized the desk surface behind the original ebay pic. In the past, when models have appeared early, there was a good chance that it was a factory error, an unreleased sprue falling in the wrong hopper and getting boxed+shipped, but this may have been some sly internal hype attempt.
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SRM posted:Care to say why? Just saying something sucks without saying why isn't really helpful at all, and I figure 2x blocks of 20 dudes with apothecaries will be hard to shift. My general heresy experience has been that throwing hard punches is way better than trying to tank hits, and tacs are just way too ineffectual at that to accomplish anything. 20 footslogging tacs will melt to a lot of anti infantry stuff, and especially with vets getting so much better they've really become a tax you want to minimize as much as possible, either through RoWs or just taking some small units in rhinos to objective grab. 20 with hand weapons in a storm eagle or Spartan is a good time but if they're not in vehicles they're probably toast.
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adamantium|wang posted:gently caress it, these guys are pretty much done. I kind of wanted to do some minor weathering on my Dark Angels, but you can't do much with black armor. Sponge on some dark metallics, maybe, but soot isn't an option. SRM posted:Care to say why? Just saying something sucks without saying why isn't really helpful at all, and I figure 2x blocks of 20 dudes with apothecaries will be hard to shift. I've also taken a 10-man squad in a rhino and it's rare they do anything at all beyond objective grabbing. My ultimate goal is to run an Ironwing list (at least until plastic jetbikes appear) so I need to get used to that. I always ran mechanized tacticals in 40k, but I really feel the loss of special weapons here. The thing is, I like 30k tactical squads. With swords added on they become a solid jack of all trades unit and an apothecary makes a blob into a decent anvil. They have to be dealt with and they're the cheapest way to get bodies on the table. They just have some real limitations. God forbid they get charged by a contemptor. ijyt posted:So 3 ten man squads should do me? I'm just asking as I want to get some calth marines from eBay while they're still cheap but don't want to overbuy.
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Now that I am infront of a computer, I can properly respond. The reason that I dislike tactical squads is that other units just do what they do, but better. Tacticals are way better midfield units, both with their ability to take special weapons, and they start out with chainswords. 10 tacs with chainswords costs only 10 points less than 10 vets. If you want melee, go with assault marines. If you just need to fill out your two troop choices, I would go with assault marines every time. 13 points pr. model. The 12" move is a big gamechanger. You can grab objectives faster, get to the enemy faster, or run away from danger faster. Yeah, FotL is kind of nice, but It's still only a bolter shot. Best case scenario is 80 shots, which is alot, granted, but its only 9 dead marines. Assault Marines atleast gets you the possibility of a sweeping advance, which is deadly as gently caress. Veterans are also better in CC, due to more attacks and the ability to take more power weapons that cant be challenged out.
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Sorry, it was also my fault for not using proper nomenclature. When I said tactical marines it's because I wasn't aware of veterans being a thing - it was more of a "how many of these models should I have to be able to be flexible with my lists" Again, sorry for the confusion and thanks for the good info.
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For something different: Daemons in 30k? Y/N
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Safety Factor posted:These turned out great. Well-weathered Death Guard are a highlight of the army and those modified scythes are way better than the farm tools they started as. Thanks man. Have you thought about going the other direction for your weathering? Depending on your basing, why not use an ochre or khaki pigment as dust that will actually show up on your black plates?
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Assault Marines are probably the best troops choice you get without a ROW. Tacticals once had a niche as the cheapest troops choice, but now they're barely cheaper than assault marines which can move faster, take melee weapons, and get combat shields with no drawbacks compared to breachers. Breachers are the worst troops choice outside of scout squads- super expensive, super niche (people make the ZM argument all the time, but in reality 90% of games are not ZM so it's a very weak argument), and get no extra attacks in melee. When it comes to ROW troops choices, vets are kings of poo poo mountain. They're stupid good for the cost and FW kinda screwed the pooch by making them better than all the other options. Next up are terminators- cheaper and everything breachers wanted to be. You also get two flavours one that's as fast as infantry and another that's tough and slow. Both have combi weapons and power axes. I like tactical squads, but in the new meta they are worse than before despite the points drop. They need a buff- like allowing fury of the legion after moving. Some legions can pull them off still- world eaters are scary in melee, iron hands are cheap yet really tough, word bearers and iron warriors will never run away. My personal belif is to either go all in or buy them for their rhinos. Three rhinos with MM and combi meltas inside is cheap and pretty effective. 40-60 warm bodies with FNP is totally counter to the meta in some places and can really surprise people. Outside of this, the only nice thing about tacticals is that they can take a drop pod in orbital assault lists to help you with your drop pod quota. Anyways thanks for reading my opinions about space barbie dolls. BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:do not take assault marines We live in a brave new world of wildly cheaper assault marines, which a lot of legions boost to frightening capabilities for the unit's costs.
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I don't know, assault marines can get pretty pricy when you factor in their upgrades. We're talking 405 points for a 20-man squad with combat shields and four power weapons (I'm guessing the conventional wisdom is to take axes?). Toss in a tooled-up sergeant and that's another 20-30 points depending on weapon choice. Is a squad like that worth it? I'd be really hesitant to shell out that much for a troops choice. Even a 10-man squad with power weapons (no shields) is fairly pricy though not that much more than a tactical squad with knives in a rhino. I think a unit of assault marines with power swords and combat shields would look rad as hell and if a proper plastic kit came out I'd definitely make at least one. The Dark Angels' sword bonus might even make them decently effective. Combat shields would also be a perfect place for checker patterns. 
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So I bought Calth. SRM talked me into it. I want to do some list-building before I paint them all up, though. I'm planning on doing Raven Guard. Which books do I buy?
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The Sex Cannon posted:So I bought Calth. SRM talked me into it. I want to do some list-building before I paint them all up, though. I'm planning on doing Raven Guard. Which books do I buy? If you just want the army lists and you aren't trying to go crazy, these two are pretty much all you need for now: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Horus-Heresy-Legiones-Astartes-Age-of-Darkness-Legions https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/The-Horus-heresy-legiones-Astartes-Age-of-Darkness-Army-List The first contains all the legion-specific info from the first few big black books, and the second is all of the basic units that are not specific to any legion. I believe both are available digitally as well?
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Further to the above, the Raven Guard are covered in more detail in Book 3: Extermination.
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adamantium|wang posted:Thanks man. Have you thought about going the other direction for your weathering? Depending on your basing, why not use an ochre or khaki pigment as dust that will actually show up on your black plates? DA hand down their armor to their little brothers whenever it gets dirty 
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The Sex Cannon posted:So I bought Calth. SRM talked me into it. I want to do some list-building before I paint them all up, though. I'm planning on doing Raven Guard. Which books do I buy? I'm a great bad influence. Those two books will do ya good. The extra info and color plates and such in Extermination might be useful for hobbying and inspiring with cool stories and such, but just those two books will be all you need to play. I didn't play in this game at NOVA, but this 30k Apocalypse game was too cool not to take pictures of:        
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Finally got some 30k hobbying in. Still got a few details left but by and large these guys are done.  Erebus' lack of fingers is due to an rear end in a top hat cat knocking him onto the ground.   
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Ha ha those googly eyes on the great unclean one, great job!
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BULBASAUR posted:Assault Marines are probably the best troops choice you get without a ROW. Tacticals once had a niche as the cheapest troops choice, but now they're barely cheaper than assault marines which can move faster, take melee weapons, and get combat shields with no drawbacks compared to breachers. Breachers are the worst troops choice outside of scout squads- super expensive, super niche (people make the ZM argument all the time, but in reality 90% of games are not ZM so it's a very weak argument), and get no extra attacks in melee. When it comes to ROW troops choices, vets are kings of poo poo mountain. They're stupid good for the cost and FW kinda screwed the pooch by making them better than all the other options. Next up are terminators- cheaper and everything breachers wanted to be. You also get two flavours one that's as fast as infantry and another that's tough and slow. Both have combi weapons and power axes. Breachers are most defiantly over-costed but they can take a Land Raider as a Dedicated Transport, which can be useful. I've also found them to be OK in The Stone Gauntlet ROW, but they are mostly just a tax for toughness 5 THSS Terminators. I'm still bitter that I bought 40 of them anticipating a decent point adjustment. I should have known better, GW puts way too much value on lovely invulnerable saves and defensive grenades. I need to work on a Hammerfell Strike Force list and use it to spam face plasma. How douche-baggie could I go with that?
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                Some images of a 3v3 game we played today. 3k points on each side. Teams were TS/EC/Mech vs SW/WS/Salamanders. Sorry for the blurryness of some of the pictures, my hands arent very steady.
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DJ Dizzy posted:Cool pics What did the TS dude do for rules?
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Whole bunch of great looking armies there - that gradient on the Thousand Sons leviathan though. 
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It's cool seeing some White Scars in the wild, I feel like they're the least represented legion.
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