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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Spikeguy posted:

Oh yeah. I got one of these back in 2001. I still have it today and it still works. The best thing about this was you could program anything into it. I had a catalogue of maybe 100 deep math formulas, chemistry solutions, physics formulas and of course games including Mario Bros. Kingpin and Snake. It was the poo poo. My first one was stolen so my dad decided the best way to make sure no one mistook it for theirs, he used a soldering tool to burn my name into the back casing.

The powers of graphing calculators are great,. I remember getting a newer one when the first Playstation3 softmod was released. You could program it to do the correct triggers over the systems USB connector. It's been many years since that so info might be sketchy. Here is a video of a TI-84 doing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOSpCoCmOns

http://brandonw.net/ps3jb/

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Never had a graphing calculator but my Casio scientific one works great to this day with the original battery (I assume the tiny solar panel helps).

I know Dave/Eevblog's been done to death, but I want to point out this loving thing he just got in the last mailbag:



It's a GPS unit from 1991

Supposedly it cost over a grand and took up to half an hour to get started sometimes, but still that had to be pretty mindblowing back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB-fUf3pc94&t=1489s

This one was broken but he attempts to repair it in a more detailed video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az4B2o4Kcsc. There's also a page with more photos and data: http://retro-gps.info/Sony/Sony-Pyxis-IPS-360/index.html

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

mobby_6kl posted:

Never had a graphing calculator but my Casio scientific one works great to this day with the original battery (I assume the tiny solar panel helps).

I know Dave/Eevblog's been done to death, but I want to point out this loving thing he just got in the last mailbag:



It's a GPS unit from 1991

Supposedly it cost over a grand and took up to half an hour to get started sometimes, but still that had to be pretty mindblowing back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB-fUf3pc94&t=1489s

This one was broken but he attempts to repair it in a more detailed video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az4B2o4Kcsc. There's also a page with more photos and data: http://retro-gps.info/Sony/Sony-Pyxis-IPS-360/index.html

Yeah, 20-30 minute lock it excruciatingly long these days. But he did get it back up and running.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe
The TI-82 I had was acquired before our school started with graphic calculators. It dropped my average score something fierce (why memorize when I can just code a few lines, enter the variables and get a solution oh poo poo not allowed on exams ffffuuuucckkkk) but it did get me interested in programming, even though the 82 had only a weird form of BASIC where you had to choose commands from a list and no (official) assembly support. I coded a wireframe isometric 3D engine on it that worked entirely on basis of specifying coordinates in the form of radians and scalars and it had to blank the screen every time before the next image could be drawn. I didn't know about matrix transforms back then, otherwise I could've made it much easier, probably faster and actually 3D.

I saw a TI-92 a few years later which had a bitching Harrier-like game on it, but they practically stuffed an entire Amiga 500 in there as opposed to the gimped C64 in the TI-82.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

mobby_6kl posted:

I know Dave/Eevblog's been done to death, but I want to point out this loving thing he just got in the last mailbag:

Supposedly it cost over a grand and took up to half an hour to get started sometimes, but still that had to be pretty mindblowing back then.

Funnily enough, I was just about to post handheld GPS devices in here:

This is a mid range Garmin:



It has a 240x320, non-touchscreen screen, no wifi, no phone data, barely enough memory to allow it to upgrade, is single function, runs off AA batteries and costs over £125


Compare with my £100 smartphone that does everything that it does, plus, well, is a smartphone.

And the maps are free to upgrade, updated more often and better than the garmin ones.

EDIT: and thanks to phone technology, it's faster and more accurate than the Garmin.

spog has a new favorite as of 00:44 on Sep 4, 2016

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

spog posted:

It has a 240x320, non-touchscreen screen, no wifi, no phone data, barely enough memory to allow it to upgrade, is single function, runs off AA batteries and costs over £125

That's an unironically great feature list

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

They still get used in certain niches, Military, backcountry outdoors, etc.

For some of the same reasons: Your phone probably can't take the same beating and keep ticking, and doesn't run on AAs.

Bet you the battery life is orders of magnitude better as well.

Spy_Guy
Feb 19, 2013

Got another :airquote:new:airquote: thingy in the mail the other day:


It's a Monroe "MonroMatic" 8N-213 electromechanical calculator. Works perfectly as well. Haven't had the time to record it in action yet, though.

There's one notable difference between this one and other models that I own. Monroe went to some effort to make the machine use fixed-point arithmetic, so if it's set up correctly you won't need to worry about the decimal placement regardless of which tasks you're performing.
This thing also cost the equivalent of a car in its heyday. :homebrew:

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Forktoss posted:

Back to TI graphing calculator talk! I love my TI-86 with a burning passion. Our high school math class required everyone to have a graphing calculator, and the school's calculator of choice was a spindly, toy-like Casio, which they sold out to students for 100€ each. I got my dad's old TI-86, laughing at the others' screens full of dead pixels and stupid interactive vinculums while I wrote all my divisions out in pages-long lines like a professional. I will champion this old war horse to the bitter end.



Look at this bad boy. You want graphs? I can give you graphs. Vectors? Matrixes? No problem, dude. You want to program this bitch? gently caress you, the TI-86 doesn't play by your rules. I never got my programs to work properly. The teacher only taught the stupid Casios' stupid regular BASIC and TI-BASIC was slightly different. :argh:

TI actually pushed an update to the TI-84 series a while back to add fancy math typesetting as an option.

Once again, I'm really just surprised it took them so long to do a 'refresh'. The core design is solid, but adding a higher-res screen for easier-to-read text and color so you can tell two lines apart was a welcome change.

Rambling Robot
Sep 13, 2011
Duggar Fan Club Superstar #1 LOL

Spy_Guy posted:

Got another :airquote:new:airquote: thingy in the mail the other day:

It's a Monroe "MonroMatic" 8N-213 electromechanical calculator. Works perfectly as well. Haven't had the time to record it in action yet, though.

There's one notable difference between this one and other models that I own. Monroe went to some effort to make the machine use fixed-point arithmetic, so if it's set up correctly you won't need to worry about the decimal placement regardless of which tasks you're performing.
This thing also cost the equivalent of a car in its heyday. :homebrew:

How much did it cost now?

WeX Majors
Apr 16, 2006
Joined for the archives

Spy_Guy posted:

Got another :airquote:new:airquote: thingy in the mail the other day:


It's a Monroe "MonroMatic" 8N-213 electromechanical calculator. Works perfectly as well. Haven't had the time to record it in action yet, though.

There's one notable difference between this one and other models that I own. Monroe went to some effort to make the machine use fixed-point arithmetic, so if it's set up correctly you won't need to worry about the decimal placement regardless of which tasks you're performing.
This thing also cost the equivalent of a car in its heyday. :homebrew:

Oh man, please post a video cause I can't really figure out how that's supposed to work just from that picture and it's fascinating me. Why so many buttons???

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


WeX Majors posted:

Oh man, please post a video cause I can't really figure out how that's supposed to work just from that picture and it's fascinating me. Why so many buttons???

I am guess that each 1-9 column is for each digit of a number. and the decimal can be moved between them in those little windows. I'm just guessing but thats how I would start mashing on it if I had to learn quickly to fake it.

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

:vince:

Spy_Guy
Feb 19, 2013

Rambling Robot posted:

How much did it cost now?

:10bux: x 29. Some fair bit of change, but it's in extremely good shape, so I definitely feel like I got my money's worth out of it.


WeX Majors posted:

Oh man, please post a video cause I can't really figure out how that's supposed to work just from that picture and it's fascinating me. Why so many buttons???

I have one recorded now. :) Just gotta put finishing touches on it and it'll be good to upload. I'll post a link here when it's up.


Humphreys posted:

I am guess that each 1-9 column is for each digit of a number. and the decimal can be moved between them in those little windows. I'm just guessing but thats how I would start mashing on it if I had to learn quickly to fake it.

Yep! They're ones, tens, hundreds, etc. from right to left. The little window thingies are just indicators and the actual fixed decimal placement is done by the top buttons and the slider by the lower sets of numbers. Amazing thing of engineering, really.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Spy_Guy posted:

:10bux: x 29. Some fair bit of change, but it's in extremely good shape, so I definitely feel like I got my money's worth out of it.


I have one recorded now. :) Just gotta put finishing touches on it and it'll be good to upload. I'll post a link here when it's up.


Yep! They're ones, tens, hundreds, etc. from right to left. The little window thingies are just indicators and the actual fixed decimal placement is done by the top buttons and the slider by the lower sets of numbers. Amazing thing of engineering, really.

You got that a LOT cheaper than I was imaging!

EDIT: Someone a while ago mentioned ReactOS so I downloaded it and thought before I delve into it I would see what youtube has to offer:

Behold - frustrations in computing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Jp-WIxZxQ

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 11:27 on Sep 7, 2016

Stick Insect
Oct 24, 2010

My enemies are many.

My equals are none.
I had one of these, because they were cheaper than the Game Boy. The screen is hinged so you can tilt it a little.



The screen was kinda blurry and the games available for it were poo poo. I eventually got a real Gameboy.

re: framerate chat from a while back, I liked how Gerry Anderson's shows, such as Thunderbirds, used high speed cameras to create an illusion of size.

These were shows that employed marionettes, scale models and pyrotechnics. They recorded all action sequences with vehicles and buildings at high frame rates, with the models moving (or exploding) really fast. After the recording was slowed back to 24 fps, the movements looked really smooth. Things like water droplets, flames, smoke, dust and flying debris in slow motion

A bunch of people got crowdfunded to make new Thunderbirds episodes in the old style, using the same techniques used in the 1960's. It's terribly impractical and labour intensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eAR-LGk30I

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Stick Insect posted:

I had one of these, because they were cheaper than the Game Boy. The screen is hinged so you can tilt it a little.



The screen was kinda blurry and the games available for it were poo poo. I eventually got a real Gameboy.

re: framerate chat from a while back, I liked how Gerry Anderson's shows, such as Thunderbirds, used high speed cameras to create an illusion of size.

These were shows that employed marionettes, scale models and pyrotechnics. They recorded all action sequences with vehicles and buildings at high frame rates, with the models moving (or exploding) really fast. After the recording was slowed back to 24 fps, the movements looked really smooth. Things like water droplets, flames, smoke, dust and flying debris in slow motion

A bunch of people got crowdfunded to make new Thunderbirds episodes in the old style, using the same techniques used in the 1960's. It's terribly impractical and labour intensive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eAR-LGk30I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSXhpseKoOw

Spy_Guy
Feb 19, 2013

WeX Majors posted:

Oh man, please post a video cause I can't really figure out how that's supposed to work just from that picture and it's fascinating me. Why so many buttons???

:eng101: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNwzS0VOy1E :eng101:

A tad long perhaps, but I tend to wanna cover everything about a machine. Hope you like it!

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Spy_Guy posted:

:eng101: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNwzS0VOy1E :eng101:

A tad long perhaps, but I tend to wanna cover everything about a machine. Hope you like it!

extremely loving satisfying clunks

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Video's on my home computer, but I went to the NSA cryptography museum near Baltimore and they had a pair of Enigma machines you get to play with. Every key press has to spin a rotor, so you have to push down hard on each key with a big clunk and ringing noise when you release it. Even if you didn't have to write down which lamp lit up with each key press, there'd be no way to type quickly with one.

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My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I went to a museum where they had a ton of these mechanical calculators and it kinda highlighted (highlit?) a problem I have with tech museums in general: I can only look at so many exhibits before I want to see them in action. I realize if you let people play with them freely, someone would break it, but the way it is now, I can go to the museum and get kinda bored or I can watch someone explain the thing in-depth for half an hour on youtube.

They also had a ton of old synths and again all I wanted to to was hook those fuckers up to an amp and drive the other visitors away with robot farts. All they had to play around with was a really quiet theremin. Whoop-dee-doo.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

My Lovely Horse posted:

I went to a museum where they had a ton of these mechanical calculators and it kinda highlighted (highlit?) a problem I have with tech museums in general: I can only look at so many exhibits before I want to see them in action. I realize if you let people play with them freely, someone would break it, but the way it is now, I can go to the museum and get kinda bored or I can watch someone explain the thing in-depth for half an hour on youtube.

They also had a ton of old synths and again all I wanted to to was hook those fuckers up to an amp and drive the other visitors away with robot farts. All they had to play around with was a really quiet theremin. Whoop-dee-doo.

Yeah, they should at least have a video display along with things like that that shows it in action.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Museums that target children seem to be a bit better in that regard - I have no shame in going through the interactive children's exhibits.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Spy_Guy posted:

:eng101: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNwzS0VOy1E :eng101:

A tad long perhaps, but I tend to wanna cover everything about a machine. Hope you like it!

I couldn't stop myself from saying aloud "oh, yeah, that's the stuff" when it started working. Super satisfying to watch in action for some reason.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.


Courage! :pseudo:

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
What Apple doesn't want you to know is that you can upgrade your current 6/6s up to 7 spec for cheap:


http://appleplugs.com/

joshtothemaxx
Nov 17, 2008

I will have a whole army of zombies! A zombie Marine Corps, a zombie Navy Corps, zombie Space Cadets...

My Lovely Horse posted:

I went to a museum where they had a ton of these mechanical calculators and it kinda highlighted (highlit?) a problem I have with tech museums in general: I can only look at so many exhibits before I want to see them in action. I realize if you let people play with them freely, someone would break it, but the way it is now, I can go to the museum and get kinda bored or I can watch someone explain the thing in-depth for half an hour on youtube.

They also had a ton of old synths and again all I wanted to to was hook those fuckers up to an amp and drive the other visitors away with robot farts. All they had to play around with was a really quiet theremin. Whoop-dee-doo.

Good museums do this either by amassing tons of originals or creating replicas. Like the National Video Game Museum. The Center for Popular Music will record drat near anyone playing music on an original wax cylinder machine if they ask nicely.

Here's a crappy video, lots more on the CPM Facebook: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yCTVsTlygeQ

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

mobby_6kl posted:

What Apple doesn't want you to know is that you can upgrade your current 6/6s up to 7 spec for cheap:


http://appleplugs.com/

lol it’s funny because sexual violence symbolism

Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

mobby_6kl posted:

What Apple doesn't want you to know is that you can upgrade your current 6/6s up to 7 spec for cheap:


http://appleplugs.com/

Careful with that joke, it's museum-grade. Or maybe it just feels that old because yesterday it got posted more times than there are people on the planet.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
Having just had a bluetooth speaker go utterly nuts and refuse to work until the batteries had drained and it was recharged, I'm not inclined to agree with them right now.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
I really don't know how they're going to spin this one as anything but a blatant cash grab, the idea that the 3.5mm connection is obsolete is underpants on the head crazy.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Lizard Combatant posted:

I really don't know how they're going to spin this one as anything but a blatant cash grab, the idea that the 3.5mm connection is obsolete is underpants on the head crazy.

It's a combination cash grab and 'silicon valley tech bro circlejerk hating old formats even though they work perfectly loving fine'. Progress for the sake of progress' sake.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I hate that Apple removed the jack, not because I will personally miss it, but because no one will shut up about it.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.
But this is the obsolete technology thread and a company is trying to convince everyone that a daily used piece of tech is obsolete. You might want to sit this one out.

XYZ
Aug 31, 2001

Lizard Combatant posted:

But this is the obsolete technology thread and a company is trying to convince everyone that a daily used piece of tech is obsolete. You might want to sit this one out.

Fax machines. :getin:

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

XYZ posted:

Fax machines. :getin:


The fax machine was replaced with something cheaper, easier, higher quality and more efficient.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Lizard Combatant posted:

The fax machine was replaced with something cheaper, easier, higher quality and more efficient.

Well you would think that.

Lizard Combatant
Sep 29, 2010

I have some notes.

BattleMaster posted:

Well you would think that.

I'm not on trial here!

Cat Hatter
Oct 24, 2006

Hatters gonna hat.

Lizard Combatant posted:

But this is the obsolete technology thread and a company is trying to convince everyone that a daily used piece of tech is obsolete. You might want to sit this one out.

Apple sounds like they would fit right in with the posters in this thread complaining about GPS, Mp3 players, physical media of any kind, printers, and the (nearly but not quite obsolete) fax machine.

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Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Lizard Combatant posted:

I'm not on trial here!

Actually, you are. *bangs gavel*

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