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As someone who listens to a lot of music and is interested in high quality music, I like the move by apple to remove the headphone jack, and thus also the DAC inside the iphone. This will of course provide more space for other components. Some high end audio companies have already released external lightning connector DACs that are, ideally, better than whichever one was in the old iphone.
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Lizard Combatant posted:I really don't know how they're going to spin this one as anything but a blatant cash grab, the idea that the 3.5mm connection is obsolete is underpants on the head crazy. They've understood their demographic very well and could get away with anything if they market it right. Watch the new iPhone break sales records.
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Sep 9, 2016 07:17
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Phlegmish posted:They've understood their demographic very well and could get away with anything if they market it right. Watch the new iPhone break sales records. They've already said they won't be releasing sales figures for opening weekend because "initial sales will be governed by supply, not demand" (read: we've artificially limited available units to try and increase an appearance of consumer demand by selling out) and their 4th quarter estimates are down $4-6 billion. The iPhone is still a juggernaut, but it is slowing. It's an incremental change in all areas except the ludicrous decision to drop the headphone jack. That's actually a big problem for a company that, under Jobs, made huge leaps and, since his death, really hasn't. People compare the dropping of the headphone jack to leaving the floppy drive out of the iMac, but the iMac was a radical departure from the design language that existed across the computing world at the time. It was cool-as-gently caress and dropping the floppy was part of what made that possible. The only thing made possible by dropping the headphone jack is an uptick in wireless headphone sales (including Beats, owned by Apple). And yes, I realize they've made claims about how it gave them room for an hour or two more battery life or more haptic feedback on the loving home button, but ffs, they could have made it slightly thicker (i.e. as thick as the stupid camera bulge so the drat things sit flat on a table again) and doubled the battery life.
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Sep 9, 2016 07:57
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Johnny Aztec posted:Actually, you are. *bangs gavel* Allow me a moment to prepare my defence 
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Sep 9, 2016 08:08
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Magnus Praeda posted:People compare the dropping of the headphone jack to leaving the floppy drive out of the iMac
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Sep 9, 2016 08:13
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My Lovely Horse posted:headphones are essentially unchanging …until Apple. Think Different™
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Sep 9, 2016 08:17
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Right? If it's not cheaper, better quality or more efficient it's not an upgrade. Especially since wireless headphones are currently an option and not a requirement.
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Sep 9, 2016 08:22
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treiz01 posted:As someone who listens to a lot of music and is interested in high quality music, I like the move by apple to remove the headphone jack, and thus also the DAC inside the iphone. This will of course provide more space for other components. Some high end audio companies have already released external lightning connector DACs that are, ideally, better than whichever one was in the old iphone. Nothing you're going to plug into the Lightning port is going to provide audibly better sound quality than the DAC in an iPhone with a 3.5mm jack. It's way beyond human hearing already.
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Sep 9, 2016 08:31
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BRB, creating a Kickstarter page for a Lightning tube amplifier.
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Sep 9, 2016 08:41
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You joke, but that's a sure fire get rich
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Sep 9, 2016 08:43
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Platystemon posted:BRB, creating a Kickstarter page for a Lightning tube amplifier. I have a bunch of tubes lying around and random electronics and PC boards - get me onboard! We'll also sell those cable crystals to supliment our income. And telegraph poles to the Japanese audiophiles.
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Sep 9, 2016 08:59
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Tube amp with Lightning connector, you say? http://www.peachtreeaudio.com/idecco-amplifier-with-dac.html
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Sep 9, 2016 09:07
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Humphreys posted:I have a bunch of tubes lying around and random electronics and PC boards - get me onboard! Pfft, amateur. What you do is order fully‐built tube amps on Alibaba, then put them in a bigger case with a lithium battery and a Lightning jack/chipset. Or get in contact with the factory and have the Chinese child labour do that for you, too.
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Sep 9, 2016 09:11
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Platystemon posted:Pfft, amateur. Pfft, amateur. What you do is get your nephew to create a 3D render and then write a long, flowery write-up of what it will do. (actually making it is something to sort out once you have have all that Kickstarter cash in your bank)
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Sep 9, 2016 09:27
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atomicthumbs posted:extremely loving satisfying clunks I just watched this with my chair mounted bass kicker turned on and loving hell those clunks almost punched through my chair. Cool video too!
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Sep 9, 2016 10:16
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Lizard Combatant posted:The fax machine was replaced with something cheaper, easier, higher quality and more efficient. A newer fax machine 
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Sep 9, 2016 10:52
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spog posted:Pfft, amateur. Pfft, amateur. We create a new type of tech called Goontubes. No one knows how it still works or why people dig it, but people still pay for it.
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Sep 9, 2016 13:40
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My Lovely Horse posted:That's a silly comparison to begin with. Floppies got overtaken by storage media that offered higher capacity and more convenience, headphones are essentially unchanging. Not in 1998 they hadn't unless you like having an abundance of coasters or you like risking your files on a Zip drive.
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Sep 9, 2016 15:51
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ElZilcho posted:I just watched this with my chair mounted bass kicker turned on and loving hell those clunks almost punched through my chair. Haha, that's awesome! Really glad you're all enjoying the video.  Lemme know if you have any questions about this machine / other ones. I'd be happy to answer or make a video showcasing stuff.
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Sep 9, 2016 17:56
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KozmoNaut posted:Nothing you're going to plug into the Lightning port is going to provide audibly better sound quality than the DAC in an iPhone with a 3.5mm jack. It's way beyond human hearing already. Eh, the DAC provided by most major manufacturers won't be of the highest quality. I poked around a bit and the reviews seem to indicate a measurable difference.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:05
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If only reviews were actually indicative of anything.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:26
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The people bothering to write those reviews are very likely the kind of people who think they can hear a difference, nay, are positively convinced that they can.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:29
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You can already plug in a USB DAC into an (Androd, at least) phone and it just works.
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Sep 9, 2016 18:30
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Here's the video of me spelling my first name with an Enigma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBNc-lpJXU You can see how it works pretty clearly. Every time you press a key, a lamp lights up showing which letter to write down instead. The position of the rotors determines exactly which lamp lights up when each key is pressed. Pressing a key spins the rightmost rotor one position. Every certain number of rightmost rotor spins, the middle one spins. Every certain number of middle rotor spins, the leftmost one spins. Think hours, minutes, and seconds on a clock. The original Enigmas could be pretty easily broken by hand once cryptographers figured out how they worked, as well as some sloppy behavior and less secure procedures used by the operators; one example was that operators would decide on the encryption key for each message, but there was a universal "ground setting" used to encrypt the key. The operator would put the ground setting in plain text at the top of the message, then set the machine to that setting and type the actual encryption key twice (if the key came out the same both times when decrypted, the receiving operator knew nothing got corrupted). The receiver would set their machine to the ground setting, type the first 6 encrypted letters to see the actual encryption key, and then set the machine to that key and decrypt the rest. The problem is that by typing the letters twice, cryptographers were able to figure out that the 1st and 4th letters and so on were the same. By taking advantage of other known properties about how the machines worked (like no letter could ever be encrypted to itself, so an A in the encrypted document could never be an A in the plain text), they were able to work out the relationships between encrypted letters through hand charts just by getting a bunch of intercepted messages from a single day with the same ground setting. Eventually this stopped working, as the Germans worked to eliminate flaws that would allow the messages to be decrypted by hand. This ended up driving the development of mechanical computers like the Bombes that would just try a ton of different machine setups at once, running through every possibility to figure out what settings to use to decrypt the message. Speaking of "No letter can be encrypted to itself", here's one amazing incident from a 19-year-old girl who worked on decrypting Enigma messages: quote:The one snag with Enigma of course is the fact that if you press A, you can get every other letter but A. I picked up this message and—one was so used to looking at things and making instant decisions—I thought: 'Something's gone. What has this chap done? There is not a single L in this message.' chitoryu12 has a new favorite as of 20:21 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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I had to twist my 3.5mm jack to just the right angle to hear this thread properly. welp guess I gotta buy a whole new set of speakers since this plug poo poo the bed. I can't wait until all the other designers follow this lead.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:41
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treiz01 posted:Eh, the DAC provided by most major manufacturers won't be of the highest quality. I poked around a bit and the reviews seem to indicate a measurable difference. Reviews for cd mats and wooden knobs also indicate a difference.
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Sep 9, 2016 22:25
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Keiya posted:Reviews for cd mats and wooden knobs also indicate a difference. These dorks make it hard to tell the difference between legit audio concerns and magic. I can't speak for the Iphone, never had one, but a lot of consumer grade products, like on-board audio analog outputs on computers, don't sound all that great with nicer audio gear.
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The otherwise nice dell workstation I use at work is so electrically noisy inside that scrolling a browser window adds a distinct noise to the audio output; the cheap USB DAC/amp I bought was worth it just to not have to listen to that. That it also sounds better with my chunky headphones is more of a bonus.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:10
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A polarizing filter should get rid of that button glare.
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treiz01 posted:As someone who listens to a lot of music and is interested in high quality music, I like the move by apple to remove the headphone jack, and thus also the DAC inside the iphone. This will of course provide more space for other components. Some high end audio companies have already released external lightning connector DACs that are, ideally, better than whichever one was in the old iphone. There still needs to be a DAC in the phone, it has speakers after all. Anyway I'd be surprised if the Lightening to headphone adapter (and the bundled headphones) aren't just being passed analogue audio out of the phone anyway.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:12
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Knowing Apple's experience with other lightning dongles (hello there Lightning-to-HDMI), it'll be some hacked-together DAC-ADC-DAC poo poo that pitch shifts the entire thing.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:21
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Zopotantor posted:A polarizing filter should get rid of that button glare. For maximum effect, you need one on the camera and one on the light source.
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TinTower posted:Knowing Apple's experience with other lightning dongles (hello there Lightning-to-HDMI), it'll be some hacked-together DAC-ADC-DAC poo poo that pitch shifts the entire thing. Didn't lightning -to-HDMI add, like, MPEG compression or some poo poo?
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Sep 10, 2016 01:28
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DoctorWhat posted:Didn't lightning -to-HDMI add, like, MPEG compression or some poo poo? And output at 900p, which was never the iPad's resolution.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:29
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Speaking of digital output with smart dongles (and content relevant to this thread), the Gamecube had a digital video out port. A chip in connector of the official component video cables converted that to the necessary analogue signals. It was really ahead of its time. It’s a shame they never released an HDMI cable, but IIRC fans have now made their own using FPGAs.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:32
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Spy_Guy posted:Haha, that's awesome! Really glad you're all enjoying the video. If you get bored, you should make some isolated recordings of the various kachunks and operations, I'm sure you could sell packages of those sounds to foley artists
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Sep 10, 2016 03:09
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Humphreys posted:Pfft, amateur. This already exists at goontu.be and, while not a tube from Ali baba, is a YouTube chat room that nobody understands, but people for some reason still like it, and for some reason give money to. Nice opportunity to see somebody light their pubes on fire though
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treiz01 posted:Eh, the DAC provided by most major manufacturers won't be of the highest quality. I poked around a bit and the reviews seem to indicate a measurable difference. I really want to see Kozmonaut dissect this. In depth.
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Sep 10, 2016 03:25
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chitoryu12 posted:Enigma Stuff Last year I got to play with something similar at Pearl Harbour. I love these sort of machines.
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Spy_Guy posted:Haha, that's awesome! Really glad you're all enjoying the video. I want to hear all the clunks.  But more seriously, I'd like a primer on these machines, and how they would have been used on their day-to-day. You talked about how some numbers went to certain registers, but that went flying over my head most of the time during that video.
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