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A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


Captain Yossarian posted:

Psx and n64 run fine on RetroPie though? Unless you have an older one?

There are no N64 emulators that "run fine" in terms of having decent accuracy and still running at a playable speed. CEN64 is the cloest things have gotten, but it still has some issues and needs a top of the line i7.

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Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

There are no N64 emulators that "run fine" in terms of having decent accuracy and still running at a playable speed. CEN64 is the cloest things have gotten, but it still has some issues and needs a top of the line i7.

Yeah sorry I was focusing more on the "psx" half there. Gf plays 64, not I!

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
The psp's psx emulator is so top notch that sony didn't even attempt to port or rewrite it for the vita, the vita/pstv actually runs the psx emulator inside its own psp emulator/mode

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!

feedmegin posted:

I worked on the UI for those things (QtEmbedded/QTopia) :shobon: Pretty fun hardware for its day, really.
You guys made something really cool :)

My Zaurus I bought a few years after they were strictly relevant but still recall being impressed with what you could do with them, at least software- and expandability-wise. Compact Flash wifi card, a GigaByte microdrive? Man, that poo poo was the future. Just a shame the actual PDA hardware itself was pretty garbage :v:

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Captain Yossarian posted:

Psx and n64 run fine on RetroPie though? Unless you have an older one?

Think I mighta meant the PS2 based on recent comments. N64 RetroPie chat seems mostly about how it doesn't work so good. Eh, I'm willing to wait. I can play Pilotwings 64 a hundred years from now and still be pretty chilled out.

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


Sentient Data posted:

The psp's psx emulator is so top notch that sony didn't even attempt to port or rewrite it for the vita, the vita/pstv actually runs the psx emulator inside its own psp emulator/mode

Similarly, the best way to play N64 games on PC right now is to run the Virtual Console emulated versions inside a Wii emulator.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

Three-Phase posted:

I saw packages of "fuse wire" you would string between two points. Totally not a fire hazard.

Yeah ring mains are kinda' nutty. At least for low voltage applications like that. I don't think the United States NEC would ever allow that sort of configuration. You can do things like paralleling really big wires for low voltage high current applications but I don't think a ring structure is ever permitted.

PS 1800 watts... Assuming unity power factor!

Wait, is fuse wire on a card not a universal thing? What do you do if you need some fuse wire?

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Horace posted:

Wait, is fuse wire on a card not a universal thing? What do you do if you need some fuse wire?

I have never seen fuse wire outside of pictures from old-rear end UK wiring.

You use a fuse, as in a glass or ceramic package with the fuse elements safely inside. With an overload element (for slow action) and a set of short circuit elements (fast action). So you have an appropriate time delay to permit inrush current (motor starting, transformer energizing) yet can interrupt in a fraction of a cycle in a serious short circuit. You cannot do that double-element protection with a fuse wire.

You can get them as small as surface-mount for a fraction of an amp, all the way up to coffee-can sized packages that can handle thousands of amps.

Three-Phase has a new favorite as of 12:22 on Sep 8, 2016

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Here's a handy guide to fuses found in US electrical systems:

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
My old car (an 88 Chrysler) had a ton of fuse wire scattered about, so it's not limited to UK houses. And, yes, a common aftermarket change is to cut out the fuse links and splice in standard fuse holders.

To check if a wire is blown, the service manual tells you to pull on both sides of the link and note if it's "stretchy". Yes, the actual 1000+ page official shop service manual from Chrysler, not the Chilton junk

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Earlier tonight, I went to a huge arcade complex that just opened up a few weeks ago, and they've got all sorts of classic games in cabinets that look like they've been professionally restored.

Also, TONS of pinball machines, both old and new:



Including a Bally Star Trek machine from 1979, which was awesome because today was Star Trek's 50th anniversary:



They even had an Asteroids machine:



There was a Millipede, Battlezone, Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, and a Missile Command nearby, too. I'm definitely going back there this weekend.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Gonz posted:

Earlier tonight, I went to a huge arcade complex that just opened up a few weeks ago, and they've got all sorts of classic games in cabinets that look like they've been professionally restored.

Also, TONS of pinball machines, both old and new:



Including a Bally Star Trek machine from 1979, which was awesome because today was Star Trek's 50th anniversary:




Oh my god where is this, I need that much pinball in my life

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Code Jockey posted:

Oh my god where is this, I need that much pinball in my life

http://tiltstudio.com/locations/tempe-az/

It was Deadsville when I went tonight, but that has a lot to do with the fact that:

A.) The mall was about to close.

and

B.) The manager said they do most of their business on the weekend.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I hope it survives, more people should visit and support their local arcade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20SDLMbxwU

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
I think it'll do well. It replaced a Gameworks that was absolutely terrible and was there for eons. A Gameworks where over 75% of the games were ticket machines and all the old machines were decrepit as gently caress.

This new place seems like they've got a healthy mix of retro games, new games and ticket games. It's also laid out a hell of a lot better than Gameworks was, and they've got a nice bar. It's a family place, so there's no Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter games, but if there were, i'd seriously considering moving into the building and living there. They picked a great location for it, too. It's right next to a massive Harkins IMAX theater complex, as well as a remodeled food court. They're gonna do gangbusters, I think.

EDIT: Just found this walkthrough on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dJvJQpU5A

Gonz has a new favorite as of 07:04 on Sep 9, 2016

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

Gonz posted:

http://tiltstudio.com/locations/tempe-az/

It was Deadsville when I went tonight, but that has a lot to do with the fact that:

A.) The mall was about to close.

and

B.) The manager said they do most of their business on the weekend.

Oh

My

God.


No, you guys need to understand. Growing up, I would always see and hear of awesome places on the news, or on early Usenet and phbb boards. They would never be nearby, of course, because I lived in northern kabumfuck Idaho, and nothing worthwhile exists within six hours of Idaho.

But this time, this time it is different. For I am an Adult, and as an Adult I have done many Adult things, one of which was moving to Phoenix.

Holy poo poo. My free time, I can see it withering away.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Geirskogul posted:

Oh

My

God.


No, you guys need to understand. Growing up, I would always see and hear of awesome places on the news, or on early Usenet and phbb boards. They would never be nearby, of course, because I lived in northern kabumfuck Idaho, and nothing worthwhile exists within six hours of Idaho.

But this time, this time it is different. For I am an Adult, and as an Adult I have done many Adult things, one of which was moving to Phoenix.

Holy poo poo. My free time, I can see it withering away.

I used to be an arcade and pinny dealer and the single greatest moment of that job was being invited to one of Australia's biggest importers/dealers. I'm sure I can find photos (it was pre-social media as a norm) but that weekend at his property and seeing the secret stash collection was amazing. The pinnys were great, so were the arcades (I won a Daytona Dual cab in a raffle) but holy poo poo the 5 bay shed behind the house was completely filled with old cigarette machines, coke machines and a bunch of rare pin/arcade gear he could fit into the main compound.

People flew in from all over the world for it. I drove 700KM after finishing my day job at midday as my boss wouldn't allow me to take the full day off for it. I remember rocking up late in the night with 3 toll booth tickets (I'm rural - not used to automated fines on certain roads). That weekend and the roast pig a NZer put on was amazing. and the welcome from people I have never met in person before (always email or mail). was great. I was a dumb young kid selling arcade PCBs and junk and here I was in royalty.

EDIT: To contract this story back to arcades: If you know an owner of an arcade - be friends with them. The real cool poo poo is at their home.

Nonviolent J
Jul 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Soiled Meat
id buy a perfect n64 emulator for a lot of money, i really would

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

nigga crab pollock posted:

i found a video of an sl-c1000 emulating gba pretty much perfectly, which i definitely tried to do on my ipod in like 2009 and it couldn't do it fullspeed with sound. that's pretty impressive. did quake actually run playable and did it have 3d hardware or was it software rendered?

It certainly didn't have 3d hardware ;) Qt/Embedded did have some capacity for 2d acceleration (I wrote that bit, actually), but I don't think the Zaurus port used it and anyway it wouldn't help much with Quake.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Nonviolent J posted:

id buy a perfect n64 emulator for a lot of money, i really would

This might take years but honestly with flashcarts being a thing now, I don't really care about emulation any longer unless it's on a portable. You can get a real n64 and every game ever made on a flashcart. Bam, 100% accuracy and no need to spend $20,000 collecting every single game.

Nonviolent J
Jul 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Soiled Meat
oh for sure, i've been contemplating getting an everdrive 64 for years but with hdtvs not loving n64s graphically and all my controllers having loose sticks and the fact that new controllers will end up the same i'd rather emulators.

Nonviolent J
Jul 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Soiled Meat
surely someone can pick apart the virtual console n64 emu and use that

Scornful Sexbot
Sep 24, 2007


Dinosaur Gum
I bought the replacement sticks linked somewhere earlier in this thread for all four of my controllers and they work fantastic, better than new. Toss those loose sticks baby girl

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
The existing N64 emulators are perfectly fine for playing a match of Goldeneye or screwing around in Mario, you loving nerds.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

mobby_6kl posted:

The existing N64 emulators are perfectly fine for playing a match of Goldeneye or screwing around in Mario, you loving nerds.

Less good for playing anything made by Factor 5.

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

mobby_6kl posted:

The existing N64 emulators are perfectly fine for playing a match of Goldeneye or screwing around in Mario, you loving nerds.

if you do either of those things you lose all rights to call others nerds

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


SwissCM posted:

Less good for playing anything made by Factor 5.
All their N64 games were done with Lucasarts, and had superior Windows versions. Gog hasn't released all of them yet but will probably get to them eventually.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Casimir Radon posted:

All their N64 games were done with Lucasarts, and had superior Windows versions. Gog hasn't released all of them yet but will probably get to them eventually.
Rogue Squadron controls worse on PC. Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine is better on the N64 as well, with both control tweaks and graphical enhancements, ditto for Battle of Naboo.

Unsurprisingly, the N64 was the lead platform and Factor 5 optimised the gently caress out of them using custom microcode. It's also why they aren't emulated.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


SwissCM posted:

Rogue Squadron controls worse on PC. Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine is better on the N64 as well, with both control tweaks and graphical enhancements, ditto for Battle of Naboo.

Unsurprisingly, the N64 was the lead platform and Factor 5 optimised the gently caress out of them using custom microcode. It's also why they aren't emulated.
Rogue Squadron controls are good with a joystick. The graphics in IM aren't really that much of an improvement, and BFN is disappointing enough that the graphics are the least of your worries.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

I had (have? It's probably in storage) a copy of Infernal Machine on the N64. The graphics were quite improved as I recall, particularly the lighting. It's a shame an A/B comparison is hard to come across on the internet.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Nonviolent J posted:

surely someone can pick apart the virtual console n64 emu and use that

The virtual console N64 emulator is no different from the crappy hack-filled plugin emulators out there now, it's just been pre-tweaked for each game.

The N64 emulation in MAME/MESS is probably the closest thing to a "pure" emulator out there, but if you want any hope of running it close to full speed you'll need to do some ridiculous overclocking.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


SwissCM posted:

I had (have? It's probably in storage) a copy of Infernal Machine on the N64. The graphics were quite improved as I recall, particularly the lighting. It's a shame an A/B comparison is hard to come across on the internet.
My secret hope would be that the reason Gog hasn't released it yet was that they were modding in N64 features, but I doubt it.

I got annoyed when AVGN and Mike did it one Monday because they were being really dense with a game I beat when I was 12.

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

Sentient Data posted:

My old car (an 88 Chrysler) had a ton of fuse wire scattered about, so it's not limited to UK houses. And, yes, a common aftermarket change is to cut out the fuse links and splice in standard fuse holders.

To check if a wire is blown, the service manual tells you to pull on both sides of the link and note if it's "stretchy". Yes, the actual 1000+ page official shop service manual from Chrysler, not the Chilton junk

Same with a 90 Nissan Sentra I had. There were a handful of fusible links under the hood and had one blow once. I had never seen one before on any of the other cars I had owned.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Pinball is kind of a tech relic, right? Are there any companies still making machines?

I want to buy cheap and lovingly learn to restore a Creature from the Black Lagoon, the game I learned to love pinball on

my turn in the barrel
Dec 31, 2007

Pinball talk, go to the pinball museum in vegas.

Arcades go to the fun spot in NH.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i imagine pinball machine techs probably make pretty good money nowadays since there are like, 4 of them most likely

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Wasn't one of the Rogue Squadron games the first game to require the RAM expansion pack, too?

If anything, props to Lucas for keeping cheats under wraps. IIRC either Shadows of the Empire or the first Rogue Squadron had a cheat that was a bunch of gibberish characters that wasn't discovered for a long-rear end time, and one of the Rogue Squadron games was made and released before The Phantom Menace came out, and it wasn't until way after the movie was released that they revealed there was a code that unlocked the Naboo Fighter.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Geirskogul posted:

Oh

My

God.


No, you guys need to understand. Growing up, I would always see and hear of awesome places on the news, or on early Usenet and phbb boards. They would never be nearby, of course, because I lived in northern kabumfuck Idaho, and nothing worthwhile exists within six hours of Idaho.

But this time, this time it is different. For I am an Adult, and as an Adult I have done many Adult things, one of which was moving to Phoenix.

Holy poo poo. My free time, I can see it withering away.

There's actually a decent arcade/bar in downtown Boise now. Or at least there was last time I was there.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

drunk asian neighbor posted:

Wasn't one of the Rogue Squadron games the first game to require the RAM expansion pack, too?

If anything, props to Lucas for keeping cheats under wraps. IIRC either Shadows of the Empire or the first Rogue Squadron had a cheat that was a bunch of gibberish characters that wasn't discovered for a long-rear end time, and one of the Rogue Squadron games was made and released before The Phantom Menace came out, and it wasn't until way after the movie was released that they revealed there was a code that unlocked the Naboo Fighter.

Nope. It was one of the first games to use the expansion pack. But only Donkey Kong 64 and Majora's Mask actually required it.†

--
† Perfect Dark required it for anything other than 2 player multiplayer on a handful of maps, but technically, it could run without the expansion pack.

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boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

i recall being very disappointed at the unnoticeable difference in graphics quality with rogue squadron and the RAM expansion for the 64

but podracing with two controllers at once held like the reigns on a horse made up for it

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