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i think LPers getting real jobs is a good thing
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Putty posted:i think LPers getting real jobs is a good thing Is there a list of real jobs so I know what to apply for and what to avoid?
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Sep 9, 2016 18:47
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Unfunny Poster posted:Is there a list of real jobs so I know what to apply for and what to avoid? Is it fun and enjoyable? gently caress you, do something miserable like me.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:08
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I have no survey, and it makes me sad, because I like stupid surveys.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:23
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Apparently that de-monetization thing has been a thing for months and they just now decided to tell people. It also appears to be mainly based on tags.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:41
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watho posted:Apparently that de-monetization thing has been a thing for months and they just now decided to tell people. It also appears to be mainly based on tags. It's apparently even hitting Pewdiepie.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:50
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watho posted:Apparently that de-monetization thing has been a thing for months and they just now decided to tell people. It also appears to be mainly based on tags. The main gripe I've seen is, as usual, YouTube's automated system and lack of awareness on how bad they are at setting up automated systems like this hit people with a ton of false positive etc. which YouTube won't admit is a flaw in how they do things.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:27
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Don't take it as me defending google, I'm just saying that this is not the death sentence of making youtube videos for a living that people make it out to be.
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Sep 9, 2016 21:07
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Yeah, it's not a death sentence, it's just the first step of a much longer and drawn-out death sentence. edit: vvv 
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Sep 9, 2016 21:10
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That's capitalism for you!
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Sep 9, 2016 21:10
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watho posted:Don't take it as me defending google, I'm just saying that this is not the death sentence of making youtube videos for a living that people make it out to be. Oh yeah nobody sane thinks that its the death sentence. It's just YouTube using an algorithm with no notice and heads up to the content creators who, whether they like it or not, are the reason they make money. Which is both annoying and dumb of YouTube to do (again). Mekchu fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 22:17
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Unfunny Poster posted:Is there a list of real jobs so I know what to apply for and what to avoid? Do you have to wear a uniform and kiss a bunch of ungrateful prick's asses? Then its a real job watho posted:Apparently that de-monetization thing has been a thing for months and they just now decided to tell people. It also appears to be mainly based on tags. Based on tags? So I could just not tag my videos as "Trump" or "Sex" and not get hit?
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Sep 10, 2016 01:48
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Leal posted:Do you have to wear a uniform and kiss a bunch of ungrateful prick's asses? Then its a real job Potentially. I got hit on one that had 'loving' in the title so don't put it in the title either. Most of the problem comes from, like someone else said, the fact that it's all done by a computer and therefore it has no situational awareness. Videos speaking against depression and suicide are getting hit because they have 'suicide' as a tag, and that's just a small example.
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Sep 10, 2016 01:52
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Maybe it's working perfectly well and advertisers don't want depressing stuff either.
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Sep 10, 2016 03:00
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Advertisers can eat poo poo 
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Sep 10, 2016 03:01
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CJacobs posted:Advertisers can eat poo poo Deserves to be up in bold print on a billboard in this case, talking about and trying to spread awareness or lend support to issues of depression and suicide shouldn't be something you start doling out punishments for, jesus christ.
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Sep 10, 2016 03:18
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CJacobs posted:Potentially. I got hit on one that had 'loving' in the title so don't put it in the title either. Most of the problem comes from, like someone else said, the fact that it's all done by a computer and therefore it has no situational awareness. Videos speaking against depression and suicide are getting hit because they have 'suicide' as a tag, and that's just a small example. Honestly, I am kind of surprised that not only is it easy enough to bypass by not using....trigger words :iamafag: you can get the money youtube is going to pocket themselves. That is how it works right? If you get your monetization revoked youtube is still going to throw ads on your video and just pockets all the money right? Also I'm pretty surprised they didn't just expand their content id system to automatically flag videos where the program hears swear words and other such things.
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Sep 10, 2016 06:27
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Leal posted:That is how it works right? If you get your monetization revoked youtube is still going to throw ads on your video and just pockets all the money right? That's what happened to mine, yes. Yardbomb posted:Deserves to be up in bold print on a billboard in this case, talking about and trying to spread awareness or lend support to issues of depression and suicide shouldn't be something you start doling out punishments for, jesus christ. Exactly. It's an inexcusably bad system. It's as if no thought was put into the consequences of it whatsoever.
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Sep 10, 2016 08:29
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Leal posted:If you get your monetization revoked youtube is still going to throw ads on your video and just pockets all the money right? Yes. Their Content ID system is also just as dubious. For example Jim Sterling's Jimquisition videos he puts up ad free and they fall under fair use, but when someone puts a content ID claim on say a portion of a clip from a trailer for a game (like Konami has) he uses as visual aid, the video gets ads put onto it but he has no benefit. So he worked out a clever system to screw with people who do that, put a bunch of different content from various people who do the content id claim stuff which makes it so there's multiple content id claims and nobody gets ad revenue for it. Here's the vid he did explaining it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK8i6aMG9VM
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Sep 10, 2016 11:07
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tKuWHQcnt0 I have a video of a livestream I did that got 24 copyright claims on it. The video has made less than one dollar in ad revenue, meaning these people have made 4 cents on it. 
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Sep 10, 2016 11:13
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CJacobs posted:That's what happened to mine, yes. Thats what makes it really scummy. "Our advertisers don't like this content, now excuse us while our advertisers advertise on your video as we pocket all the money" CJacobs posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tKuWHQcnt0 I'm sure they're just taking the scheme from Office Space, sure on your video its 4 cents but you add a couple thousand other videos and those 4 pennies start adding up.
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Sep 10, 2016 19:57
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YouTube revealed a new thing called YouTube Heroes. It's all kinds of awful. Reveal video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_1966vaIA TechCrunch posted:Heroes will have their own online dashboard to work from, and will be able to take part in “Hero hangouts” at times, the video says. At higher levels, they’ll be able to sneak peeks at new products or even test them out for themselves, as well as contact YouTube staff directly. TechCrunch article - https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/21/youtube-enlists-volunteers-to-moderate-its-site-via-a-new-youtube-heroes-program/ Basically you sign up as a volunteer and then flag and report videos etc. and moderate their site. You know, the sort of thing that you don't want a bunch of random people being able to do because history has shown these sort of things end up poorly. Oh and, one of the tiers you can get to by doing it enough, is to be able to talk directly with YouTube. A thing content creators complain they can't even do despite bringing in millions of views. Nerd3's video on it and how to fix it in his view - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NxrW-JDQNg
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Sep 22, 2016 15:40
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"mass flag videos" lmao
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Sep 22, 2016 15:48
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I think what's most weird about that is that Google is reaching out to human beings as opposed to just trusting in their all-mighty malevolent AI algorithms.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:37
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think what's most weird about that is that Google is reaching out to human beings as opposed to just trusting in their all-mighty malevolent AI algorithms. Google's just found a way to do something of that sort even cheaper.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:50
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Hopefully this devolves into a full on moderation war, with popular youtubers mobilizing armies of hundreds of thousands of subscribing heroes to tear each other down. 
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Sep 22, 2016 18:26
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Can't wait to become a HERO spending my day flagging videos!
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Sep 22, 2016 19:21
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Jim Sterling did a video on it as well - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1F7yURZYA
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Sep 22, 2016 19:51
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I took a look at the information page for the program earlier today, and it looks like it has the potential to be much better than it sounds. Users flagging videos won't be the instant action that copyright flags are, but will put the flagged items into a queue to be evaluated by 24/7 Google employees. Only validated reports gain points, while users can lose their Hero accounts (and possibly their Youtube accounts) for abusing the system. True, it's technically unpaid labor, but not even Google has enough money to pay enough people to cover all of the content on Youtube. This system will help the paid employees focus on likely violations while rewarding the community at large in a non-monetary way. There are probably better ways to do this, but it's probably not as bad as it looks.
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Sep 23, 2016 01:54
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I know this isn't HEROS chat, but NorthernLion's Rimworld playthrough right now is making me want to tear my hair out.
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Sep 23, 2016 03:20
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I'm a bit behind on that series, but watching him fail to learn anything at all is the entire reason I follow NothernLion.
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Sep 23, 2016 03:23
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senrath posted:I'm a bit behind on that series, but watching him fail to learn anything at all is the entire reason I follow NothernLion. Except for Isaac, this is also true for me. I am 100% in the KEEP THE STREAK GOING EGG crowd. But god drat dude he has had his southern wind turbine not even hooked to his power grid and he's complaining about power problems and oh lordy
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Sep 23, 2016 03:29
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Nwabudike Morgan posted:Except for Isaac, this is also true for me. I am 100% in the KEEP THE STREAK GOING EGG crowd. But god drat dude he has had his southern wind turbine not even hooked to his power grid and he's complaining about power problems and oh lordy There's a reason he and Arumba do joint videos and stuff, they're basically the same person when it comes to playing any game but the one they became popular playing. They are so focused on talking at all times to avoid dead air that it distracts them from actually doing anything well - all of that complaining is the reason they have anything to complain about in the first place, basically.
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Sep 23, 2016 04:09
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Jazerus posted:There's a reason he and Arumba do joint videos and stuff, they're basically the same person when it comes to playing any game but the one they became popular playing. They are so focused on talking at all times to avoid dead air that it distracts them from actually doing anything well - all of that complaining is the reason they have anything to complain about in the first place, basically. True. It bums me out that people talk poo poo about NL's Isaac skills in his comments, cause honestly he is really good. Best streak I ever got was a 25er, dude's best was 150. He's no Cobalt, but still, he's able to keep consistently speaking his train-of-thoughts and it's super entertaining while still playing real good. Dude is awful at Rimworld though and I wish I could save him from himself.
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Sep 23, 2016 04:20
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Do Arumba and NL do anything anymore? I thought there was some (really minor) ~Youtube drama~ on Arumba's streams about how NL didn't do videos with him anymore, and I haven't seen him on Arumba's channel for a while.
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Sep 23, 2016 04:21
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im just imagining the hero hangout as a treehouse with "no girls allowed" pasted on the side
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Sep 23, 2016 04:26
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I saw someone on twitter refer to it as youtube's Hall Monitor Club.
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Sep 23, 2016 04:31
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Jazerus posted:There's a reason he and Arumba do joint videos and stuff, they're basically the same person when it comes to playing any game but the one they became popular playing. They are so focused on talking at all times to avoid dead air that it distracts them from actually doing anything well - all of that complaining is the reason they have anything to complain about in the first place, basically. Oh man, Arumba. I remember when he tried to play EVE and lost his poo poo because he couldn't handle people commenting on what he was doing in chat and explaining to others what he was doing was wrong and how. It was pretty funny, as was his inability to lead his group of nerds who joined his space group and his utter contempt for them. Also Sips from Yogscast is playing Aven Colony (city builder in spaaaaaace) and it's pretty good so far. He's probably the only consistent YouTuber I'll watch nowadays.
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Sep 23, 2016 05:04
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I never really looked at any of the Yogscast stuff. But other than NL I don't really watch any other content creator consistently, except for SGF and the Game Informer SUPER REPLAY crew
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I enjoy Sips, he's got a good mix of self-depricating humor and off the wall commentary. Plus he's also really good at doing roleplaying and using that to help explain his choices in a game, even if they're insanely bad choices to make but somehow always work out for him. He's also really good at trolling people from the Yogscast during their recording sessions. This is an old vid but from one of the livestreams Lewis (head dude at Yogscast) tried to do of Heroes of Might & Magic 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iScd030uJ0 (Sips is the guy with the North American accent) Mekchu fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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